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Old 02-21-2012, 04:37 PM   #31
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:37 PM   #32
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Now that we are being split up between US and European regions can we have an option to decide which region to play on, and thus be allowed to transfer the entire account to that region?

Otherwise I cannot see how I can continue to play EQ2, and I'm not talking there about having a choice in the matter, the people I play with are split between US and Europe so if many of the people are not there I don't get the second M in the MMO anymore.

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:38 PM   #33
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Some of us play on test server from Europe... Some of us play on Everquest Live (EQ1) from Europe with Station Access account... And some of us still hav players BOTH on US servers AND on EU servers.... what about US? Could we at least be given an offer to migrate our characters to US servers from EU servers so that we don't lose access to playing the games? we are not given the choice here it seems, we play in EUrope then we can't play EQ1 nor play on test server... what about the rankings? some European players are among the highest ranks in leaderboards about raid kills, about quests completed... all of these will be lost and totally ruined... Please give us some info about that...
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #34
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You know i wa going to roast the people who run this game but i just cant be bothered to hell with SOE it'll be a wrentch but theres no sway in hell im signing up to a no mark company with a bad security rep good luck to those who do i hope you value you have fun but for me this is,after all the crap thrown at me by SOE at its leaders over the years the end.

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #35
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Llogwey wrote:

Some of us play on test server from Europe... Some of us play on Everquest Live (EQ1) from Europe with Station Access account... And some of us still hav players BOTH on US servers AND on EU servers.... what about US? Could we at least be given an offer to migrate our characters to US servers from EU servers so that we don't lose access to playing the games? we are not given the choice here it seems, we play in EUrope then we can't play EQ1 nor play on test server... what about the rankings? some European players are among the highest ranks in leaderboards about raid kills, about quests completed... all of these will be lost and totally ruined... Please give us some info about that...

The info is there,basically youre screwed matey

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #36
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Stupid decision..... as usual at SOE gg idiots

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:44 PM   #37
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Well, I'm relieved that as an existing Euro (UK) player on a US server I will be able to continue playing with my friends, although I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before they change their mind.  I can only assume that someone at SOE actually checked how many non US accounts there are on US servers.  If they are prepared to make this concession I'm don't get why they are doing region locking in the first place.

It totally sucks that US peeps on euro servers will not receive the same courtesy.

This insane kind of segregation of the world on the internet should have been left behind years ago, is a massive step backwards and can only adversely affect the future of all the involved games.

But my main comment is:

'Well done SOE, you've just stopped me giving a about EQNext'. 

If, when that comes out, I cannot play it alongside my friends and my guild from EQ2 (people from all over the world but mostly the US) but will be forced onto a Euro only server, then I shall be looking for something else to play.  Its that simple. And I doubt I'm the only one.

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #38
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Can players still access the U.S. servers?Under the new partnership between SOE and ProSiebenSat.1 Games, European players of the above mentioned SOE games will be able to play via ProSiebenSat.1 Games’s service and will not have access to U.S. servers. However, existing EverQuest II players in Europe that have played on U.S. servers before the transition will be allowed to continue playing on those servers through their SOE accounts. Can U.S. players log on to the European servers?U.S.-based players will have access to the U.S. servers only.

 

We have guildies on Splitpaw that come from the U.S. Please rethink this decision! After 8yrs plus of U.S ppl mixing with EU ppl, You seriously don't think this would be acceptable right??? surely you knew that alot of people are going to get annoyed/upset about this decsion?? 

 

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #39
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What happens to characters on European servers created by US players? I don't see that in the FAQ.

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:50 PM   #42
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Onorem wrote:

What happens to characters on European servers created by US players? I don't see that in the FAQ.

I am one too. I came back after about a year break and logged to Splitpaw because my UK friends were there...now I am simply to stop playing there...and lose my developed characters as well? This is really crap...and looks like I will be leaving the game again...It would be nice to get some official responses in this thread...but of course, that is not going to happen the way it appears...

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:56 PM   #43
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Insults aren't permitted?Honestly this entire move by SoE is an insult to their entire player-base, and it sure seems to be encouraged to me!Heh.

I truely am shocked that this is being done and cutting appart a player base that has been integrated for over 7 years now.  /shakes head.

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Old 02-21-2012, 04:59 PM   #44
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How the heck do you get such an idea in your head? No I mean really...Stop this madness and leave it as it is, do you think it is normal that you suddenly send ppl away from a server where they have been playing for several years, and give them a kick up their butts to go away while they have build up a friendsbase at an euro server and vica versa. They are not playing at an euro server for nothing! Or do you really still think it's all about the pixels in this game?You should get a golden page in the Guiness book of Records for the worst idea in history.Grats!

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:00 PM   #45
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LOL its the Berlin Wall all over again, and we even have the mods playing their best at being Stasi agents.

Mr. Smedley drank way more beer in Münich as I previously thought.

Somehow he got the idea that ruining yet another MMO was a good idea.

EQN is dead to me.

I was there when they killed SWG, I'll be there when they kill EQ2... but I'll be long gone before before EQN arives. There is only so much insanity one player can take.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:00 PM   #46
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Well get ready to move a sack load of posts then as I can see a sack load of insults coming your way in the coming days.

A truely ridiculous decision, a decision made by a company that has no idea about their player base or the state of their game.

Around a third of my raid guild on Splitpaw is based in the US and I know it is the same for many others. Take away our friends and you take away out desire to play the game.

Unless you reverse this baffling decision, ProSiebenSat have just signed up to manage a dead franchise in Europe.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:00 PM   #47
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Geothe wrote:

SOE-MOD-02 wrote:

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Insults aren't permitted?Honestly this entire move by SoE is an insult to their entire player-base, and it sure seems to be encouraged to me!Heh.

I truely am shocked that this is being done and cutting appart a player base that has been integrated for over 7 years now.  /shakes head.

Ditto...the biggest insult is not being able to be on the eu server with my uk friends....pointless

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:01 PM   #48
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SOE: You are not just delivering some dry media content, it's an interactive world with actual relationships invested into it. Dividing up your player base NOW, after 8 years is completely insane.

Guilds had huge trouble recovering after your security issues, your lag issues, your DoV itemisation issues, and now you give them even bigger obstacles by locking half their members out.

If you ruin our guild for us, then that's it, I'm out.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:02 PM   #49
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Well If SoE have been bad at advertising EQ2 in europe, this is not way to solve it. Sorry to say lots of peeps will leave game. EQ2 is not unique.

This is a failure SoE

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:03 PM   #50
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Anyone know the specifics of international law pertaining to the use of proxy servers in similar circumstances?

So if you don't have a give a physical address on your account, meaning there is nothing to falsify in that regard, is it "illegal" per se to use a proxy based in the US to access content that has been "firewalled?"

Not even adressing the ToS or EULA aspects of it, as the enforcement of such varies by jurisdiction, is the act of using a proxy itself a violation of some law?

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:04 PM   #51
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good to see the mods doing there usual bang up job

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:04 PM   #52
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Bravo.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:05 PM   #53
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Maybe we'll finally get a post from the new boss?

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:05 PM   #54
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This is probably the worst idea I've seen from SoE in the dozen years I've had an account. It's obvious that this has gone too far to change now so we are stuck with dealing with it. All my characters are on US servers and I won't be transferring them. It would not surprise me in the least if that becomes mandatory at some point, in which case I will deal with it then, but for now I am staying put under the grandfather rights.

I have several questions that I can't see answered in the FAQ:

1. Station Access - I have an Access account that I use to play EQ2, EQ1. Vanguard and DCUO. EQ1 and Vanguard aren't included in the PSS1 deal. Vanguard still requires a paid subscription to play. How's that going to work when I have to transfer my payments to PSS1 (which, by the way I am extremely unhappy about and may decide not to do in any case). Am I going to have to take out a separate Station Access sub just to play EQ1 and Vanguard? I know EQ1 is going F2P but under the SA account I get Gold status.

Basically, what's happening with Station Access because under this scheme neither PSS1 or SoE seems able to offer the full range of games under an SA account.

2. New Characters - As a UK player who has played US servers before I can continue to play on US servers, apparently. Can I make new characters on US servers? Are my grandfather rights for me and my account or only for my existing characters?

3. F2P and PSS1 pricing - The answers to all the questions on these topics on the FAQ are fudged. I don't expect to see the subscription prices yet but Will PSS1 be supporting F2P or not?

4. Statiion Cash - You've only jsut got an agreement to put SC cards in UK shops. I've been buying mine from W.H. Smiths and I'm delighted to be able to get them. If I'm playing on US EQ2 servers I'll still need SC, not PSS1's currency, and I'll need SC for EQ1. Will SC cards still beavailable in the UK? If I stock up SC on EQ1, will it show up on my SOE  account for the US EQ2 servers I play on?

Honestly, this is complete mess. The only bright spots I can see are that PSS1 didn't want EQ1 or Vanguard and that Guild Wars 2 is almost here. It's entirely possible I will end up dropping EQ2 altogether.

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This is a stupid BS move by SOE. I play on splitpaw live in the USA and most of my guild is USA/Australian based. So becouse of this nonseense we will no longer be able to play on this server and our raid force/guild will be decsimated. Is SOe going to allow and give USA & any non EU people on Splitpaw the oportunity to transfer to a USA based server? And yes I mean free transfer of our toons if we are not based in EU at least. Sandiego is not that far away.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:07 PM   #56
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So when do the US players get sold off so that the renamed "Sony Entertainment Network" can focus on just console users.

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This change is an insult by SOE to the playerbase.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:09 PM   #58
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Heres my question, what about those with a year subscription active?

If i've read correctly we have to make a new account on the Prosieben.sat site, do we still keep the remainder of our year subscription? Or do we get stuffed and have to resub?

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Did you learn nothing from what you did to SWG? Come on SOE. Stop. Ruining. Everything.

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Kenazeer wrote:

Anyone know the specifics of international law pertaining to the use of proxy servers in similar circumstances?

So if you don't have a give a physical address on your account, meaning there is nothing to falsify in that regard, is it "illegal" per se to use a proxy based in the US to access content that has been "firewalled?"

Not even adressing the ToS or EULA aspects of it, as the enforcement of such varies by jurisdiction, is the act of using a proxy itself a violation of some law?

This isn't the place to ask such questions... but let me tell you, most VPN proxies are lag monsters. This game is bad enough running normally.

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