Warlock high-end changes

Kalath · 02-11-2005, 12:45 PM

In regards to Warlock's high end spells (not high enough level to try this stuff out myself quite yet):

I would just point out that there is already considerable confusion as to our level 50 spells and thier usage.

From what I have heard sofar both are the exact same spell at the moment (on live) even though one is supposed to be our big lvl50 DD nuke (the Warlock's version of Ice Comet-- Devastation) and one is supposed to be an AE with a special effect (stun line of AE I believe-- Dark Nebula)... this is supported by the spells descriptions on the EQ2Players page.

Since it makes sense that one would be DD and one would be an AE spell, I would pretty much assume that this is an error either in:

1) The patch notes themselves

2) The implementation of the spells

Any Warlocks on test high enough to actually TEST these things might wanna check on Netheros while they are at it, I'd assume no news is bad news, make sure to keep reporting the problems as many ways and times as possible =)

Thyri · 02-11-2005, 04:09 PM

give you a free bump as id also like to know that very much

Raxe Sla · 02-11-2005, 06:52 PM

me also

Mistfootief · 02-11-2005, 06:59 PM

there are no players on test that are that high i dont think unless one transfered there

Veldri · 02-11-2005, 07:49 PM

Well, if there aren't any players that high, that will be a problem, or do they buff players to test the lvl 50 spells? Either way, would be very interesting to get info on this topic./VeldriusCurrently hyped on: Neon Genesis Evangelion

shu · 02-11-2005, 08:30 PM

I would also like to find out if Devastation has been changed to AoE. If so this will really hurt the Warlock class. Could we get a Dev just to verify the change and let us know as we do not have any High level Warlocks on Test...Or if we do they arent posting any info. Thanks in advance.

Shuma

Kaz · 02-11-2005, 09:21 PM

Don't make us the farmbot class by giving us two lvl 50 AOE, thanks.

Thyri · 02-11-2005, 10:35 PM

well changed isnt the right word. At the moment both ARE AoE Spells, exact copies of each other, so Devastation needs a fix to become the DD in its description first. And my hope on this info relays on someone that transfered as a 50 Warlock here

Kalath · 02-12-2005, 04:13 AM

Since there are apparently no lvl 50 Warlocks on test atm, could we get a dev or inhouse tester to take notice of these changes and perhaps post what's up?

Zaphenath · 02-12-2005, 05:56 AM

Hey fellow Warlock followers. I dont have the info we're looking for, but I too would certainly like to know what the deal is. What I do know is what I've heard about all post 40 spells; For most classes these spells don't really work the way they should if at all.

But hang in there and I'm sure they'll get it worked out. Knowing if the 2 lvl 50 spells are both AoE would certainly be nice though. Dev's think you can check this?

Thanks,

Message Edited by Zaphenath37 on 02-13-2005 07:13 PM

Kaz · 02-12-2005, 08:22 AM

Bump

Raxe Sla · 02-13-2005, 12:30 AM

bump

aeio · 02-13-2005, 03:53 AM

Bumping threads is against the rules of the forums.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=rules&message.id=12

Kalath · 02-14-2005, 03:40 AM

Still no answer to this?

Disappointing, I'd really like to know both how this is working and whether it is supposed to be working like it is.

Miral · 02-14-2005, 05:10 AM

and sending a bug report on the same thing over and over is against the unwritten, uninforced rules. report it once. If its changed and has a different bug, you can report it again. But more and more of the same report just makes it harder for the QA people to sort out the duplicates, thereby making it take longer for a patch to be released.

Faarwolf · 02-14-2005, 06:24 AM

It's true that submitting feedback or a bug over and over will only clog up the reporting system and make it take longer for us to sort through them all. Also, please do not bump threads.

Cast · 02-14-2005, 06:27 AM

rofl after seeing a mod ask not to bump a thread of importance and seeing how things have been done before I feel bad for you all. Odds are youll have 2 aoe's for a few months before they fix it.

Ibis · 02-14-2005, 09:03 AM

pity for the warlocksthis is officially not a bump.

Kalath · 02-14-2005, 10:49 AM

Ahem, beg your pardon but at the moment we don't even know if these are broken or "working as intended".

If they change how an ability works in a patch, and you test it to find it not working as it is supposed to work... for instance, said fact that Warlocks are designated as having a DD and an AE at 50 but the patch notes indicate that both have been altered as if they are AE, what the hell are we supposed to do other than /bug it?

These two abilities have been broken since release, we can't really verify what they *should* be doing, but if they change in an illogical and apparently still broken fashion, isn't that what /bug reports are FOR?

Granted we should be able to test these things on the test server before the patch goes live, but it is obvious that not one of us player's has that capacity at the moment. Could you perhaps find a better answer for us, or find someone who can at least tell us if these are broken or not?!?!?

ANY HELP WILL GREATLY BE APPRECIATED BY ALL WARLOCKS!

02-16-2005, 09:02 PM

Nobody is saying, "do not /bug".Of course they want you to use their /bug feature!Just don't do it multiple times for the same bug, unless you think you might have new information that would help with tracking down or fixing the bug.

Victicu · 02-16-2005, 11:06 PM

Thyriel wrote:
well changed isnt the right word. At the moment both ARE AoE Spells, exact copies of each other, so Devastation needs a fix to become the DD in its description first. And my hope on this info relays on someone that transfered as a 50 Warlock here

no at the moment on Live servers they are both DD spells...on test they are changed to both be AoE spells by what the patch notes say.

02-12-2005, 05:56 AM	#10
Zaphenath General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 11	Hey fellow Warlock followers. I dont have the info we're looking for, but I too would certainly like to know what the deal is. What I do know is what I've heard about all post 40 spells; For most classes these spells don't really work the way they should if at all. But hang in there and I'm sure they'll get it worked out. Knowing if the 2 lvl 50 spells are both AoE would certainly be nice though. Dev's think you can check this? Thanks, Message Edited by Zaphenath37 on 02-13-2005 07:13 PM __________________ ~Zaphenath (52 Warlock, Blackburrow)

02-14-2005, 05:10 AM	#15
Miral Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 652	and sending a bug report on the same thing over and over is against the unwritten, uninforced rules. report it once. If its changed and has a different bug, you can report it again. But more and more of the same report just makes it harder for the QA people to sort out the duplicates, thereby making it take longer for a patch to be released. __________________ yes I'm back, on the 7 day return to eq2 trial. to check out what the combat changes finally ended up being.

02-14-2005, 06:24 AM	#16
Faarwolf Developer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Orange County, Ca Posts: 76	It's true that submitting feedback or a bug over and over will only clog up the reporting system and make it take longer for us to sort through them all. Also, please do not bump threads. __________________ ____________________ Faarwolf No Longer the Wrath of the Mods "Where once I enforced, I shall now enjoin."

02-16-2005, 09:02 PM	#20
Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	Nobody is saying, "do not /bug".Of course they want you to use their /bug feature!Just don't do it multiple times for the same bug, unless you think you might have new information that would help with tracking down or fixing the bug. __________________ Je-Tze (jz) Zachariah of Najena

02-16-2005, 11:06 PM	#21
Victicu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 332	Thyriel wrote: well changed isnt the right word. At the moment both ARE AoE Spells, exact copies of each other, so Devastation needs a fix to become the DD in its description first. And my hope on this info relays on someone that transfered as a 50 Warlock here no at the moment on Live servers they are both DD spells...on test they are changed to both be AoE spells by what the patch notes say. __________________

02-11-2005, 12:45 PM	#1
Kalath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	In regards to Warlock's high end spells (not high enough level to try this stuff out myself quite yet): I would just point out that there is already considerable confusion as to our level 50 spells and thier usage. From what I have heard sofar both are the exact same spell at the moment (on live) even though one is supposed to be our big lvl50 DD nuke (the Warlock's version of Ice Comet-- Devastation) and one is supposed to be an AE with a special effect (stun line of AE I believe-- Dark Nebula)... this is supported by the spells descriptions on the EQ2Players page. Since it makes sense that one would be DD and one would be an AE spell, I would pretty much assume that this is an error either in: 1) The patch notes themselves 2) The implementation of the spells Any Warlocks on test high enough to actually TEST these things might wanna check on Netheros while they are at it, I'd assume no news is bad news, make sure to keep reporting the problems as many ways and times as possible =)

02-11-2005, 04:09 PM	#2
Thyri Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 621	give you a free bump as id also like to know that very much

02-11-2005, 06:52 PM	#3
Raxe Sla Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	me also

02-11-2005, 06:59 PM	#4
Mistfootief Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	there are no players on test that are that high i dont think unless one transfered there

02-11-2005, 07:49 PM	#5
Veldri Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	Well, if there aren't any players that high, that will be a problem, or do they buff players to test the lvl 50 spells? Either way, would be very interesting to get info on this topic./VeldriusCurrently hyped on: Neon Genesis Evangelion

02-11-2005, 08:30 PM	#6
shu Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1	I would also like to find out if Devastation has been changed to AoE. If so this will really hurt the Warlock class. Could we get a Dev just to verify the change and let us know as we do not have any High level Warlocks on Test...Or if we do they arent posting any info. Thanks in advance. Shuma

02-11-2005, 09:21 PM	#7
Kaz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Don't make us the farmbot class by giving us two lvl 50 AOE, thanks.

02-11-2005, 10:35 PM	#8
Thyri Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 621	well changed isnt the right word. At the moment both ARE AoE Spells, exact copies of each other, so Devastation needs a fix to become the DD in its description first. And my hope on this info relays on someone that transfered as a 50 Warlock here

02-12-2005, 04:13 AM	#9
Kalath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Since there are apparently no lvl 50 Warlocks on test atm, could we get a dev or inhouse tester to take notice of these changes and perhaps post what's up?

02-12-2005, 08:22 AM	#11
Kaz Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	Bump

02-13-2005, 12:30 AM	#12
Raxe Sla Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 58	bump

02-13-2005, 03:53 AM	#13
aeio Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 267	Bumping threads is against the rules of the forums.http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=rules&message.id=12

02-14-2005, 03:40 AM	#14
Kalath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Still no answer to this? Disappointing, I'd really like to know both how this is working and whether it is supposed to be working like it is.

02-14-2005, 06:27 AM	#17
Cast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 76	rofl after seeing a mod ask not to bump a thread of importance and seeing how things have been done before I feel bad for you all. Odds are youll have 2 aoe's for a few months before they fix it.

02-14-2005, 09:03 AM	#18
Ibis General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 155	pity for the warlocksthis is officially not a bump.

02-14-2005, 10:49 AM	#19
Kalath Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Ahem, beg your pardon but at the moment we don't even know if these are broken or "working as intended". If they change how an ability works in a patch, and you test it to find it not working as it is supposed to work... for instance, said fact that Warlocks are designated as having a DD and an AE at 50 but the patch notes indicate that both have been altered as if they are AE, what the hell are we supposed to do other than /bug it? These two abilities have been broken since release, we can't really verify what they should be doing, but if they change in an illogical and apparently still broken fashion, isn't that what /bug reports are FOR? Granted we should be able to test these things on the test server before the patch goes live, but it is obvious that not one of us player's has that capacity at the moment. Could you perhaps find a better answer for us, or find someone who can at least tell us if these are broken or not?!?!? ANY HELP WILL GREATLY BE APPRECIATED BY ALL WARLOCKS!