Fan Faire 2011 Poll - Page 5

Joxter · 10-18-2010, 12:43 PM

Would be nice to have something on the east coast for those of us who cannot afford to go that far. Bally's is the better of the two.

Calthine · 10-18-2010, 12:52 PM

I was just browsing flights and costs... if there's any way to get this locked in and official before the end of the year I can save a bundle!

Edit: That's on either date. I'd still much prefer Bally's over the Hilton, but just going is awesome.

Meric · 10-18-2010, 12:54 PM

I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.

Kais · 10-18-2010, 12:59 PM

Meric wrote:

I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.

That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location.

Texana · 10-18-2010, 01:07 PM

Meric wrote:

I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.

You have to add in another $15 per day if you want to visit the strip without renting a car.

Vort · 10-18-2010, 03:27 PM

Where's my none option? I demand a none option.

In reality I don't dislike Fan Faire as a concept..., but too much relies on Fan Faire each year to gain community input. As well as the factor that allowing developers to fraternize with players simply makes the communication too personal and subject to possible corruption.

broojij · 10-18-2010, 03:28 PM

Kaisho wrote:

Meric wrote:
I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.
That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location.

I agree.. the location and hotel are not the best. do remember the extra cost of transportation to places other than the hotel from the hilton, no matter if you drive, rent, taxi or monorail and the heat if you choose to walk.. by far Bally's is much better, I got lucky at this past FanFaire and got in the tower right next to the convention center and everyone was friendly and I had a blast. My room was clean and well maintained, only complaint I had was the view of the roof and not the strip, but I still had a wonderful time and think that the extra cost to be closer to everything is the way to go.

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minimind · 10-18-2010, 03:47 PM

Kaisho wrote:

Meric wrote:
I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.
That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location.

Well, if the GF and I have to buy 3-day monorail passes (2x$28) to get to and from the Hilton when not doing fan faire stuff (since Quark's gone, there's nothing to keep me there), then by cost alone, Bally's is still better.

Cost aside, the GF and I spent almost the entire time during this past fan faire at Bally's, Paris, and the Miracle Mile. It's stuff we like. Bally's just makes sense for us.

Gre · 10-18-2010, 05:57 PM

Fraugas wrote:

one word.... DENVER! lol

SOE Denver is here already, there are tons of great hotels from Denver proper to DIA. Mensa holds it's conventions in Denver SMILEY . Just because I moved to Denver from Vegas means nothing SMILEY .

July 4th weekend is a bit tough as it will be a week before NBA summer league for my step son, so I'd have to fly back the following week so he could attend that.

As an ex-Vegan, Hilton is a total dive, and far as I know: it still does not offer in room Wifi, there is indeed Wifi at Bally's it is a separate service so you have to do a network scan to find it. I believe a great solution to that would be eliminate the 'platinum lounge' that no one used really in 2010 and turn that space into an area that those who brought their own laptops/rigs could set up and play instead of adding to the congestion of the 'gaming area'. I'm not knocking the gaming area from 2010, I believe it was a good effort; felt bad for those without platinum passes as they seemed to never get a shot at the machines.

ChetandChel · 10-18-2010, 07:23 PM

I vote for the Hilton. Bally's is great and all, but it's a pain to get to, if you're driving over busy summer weekends. All the shows and traffic suck for transportation.

Plus, August is a better time for us SMILEY

Go Hilton, Go Fight Win!

BuddieRowe · 10-18-2010, 08:31 PM

Hilton is far from everything ... Bally's in middle of everything .... either one as dates work but but being near strip did Rio and Hilton before ... much better time at Bally's.... I know its been said before but will say again lots of citys have great convention systems, where i live wont work but still many citys do .... think about changing it up .... just to add some spice .... i loved Atlanta and New Orleans... like vegas but a change would be good

BuddieRowe

Yivvits · 10-18-2010, 10:44 PM

Voted Bally's but I gotta say, I still had the best time at the 2007 FF at the Rio. The roof-top and outdoors parties were still the best of any FF's I've been to.

The Hilton one was my least fav location.

Linyar · 10-19-2010, 12:11 AM

I like the August dates better, plus I won like hundreds of dollars in the casino at the Hilton last time we were there. Also the Hilton is much larger and we could have a bigger Faire!

But I voted for Bally's cause the Hilton was such a dump... apparently their policy is "Bring Your Own Toilet Paper" in the convention area.

Bally's has a great location, the rooms are nicer, and the pool party was a blast!

Thanks for posting this survey with the dates so early!

Dented · 10-19-2010, 02:01 AM

Vortex wrote:

Where's my none option? I demand a none option.
In reality I don't dislike Fan Faire as a concept..., but too much relies on Fan Faire each year to gain community input. As well as the factor that allowing developers to fraternize with players simply makes the communication too personal and subject to possible corruption.

Have you attended fan faire in the past?

Leafwe · 10-19-2010, 03:45 AM

Bally's is on the strip but their rooms haven't been updated in 20 years and their lobby actually had plaster falling down in it last year. Hilton is a block from Circus Circus and everything else you need is easily reachable via the monorail. If it's at the Hilton, I'll actually stay there. If it's at Bally's I'll be grabbing a room at the Luxor or the Bellagio instead. I've been to two at the Hilton and one at Bally's, didn't like Bally's at all.

portorp · 10-19-2010, 03:41 PM

When will we find out so we can make travel plans

imrahil_donnergroll · 10-20-2010, 07:28 PM

Larassea_Valor wrote:

I am saving enough money to get to FanFaire 2011 from Germany.

Would be cool to meet more people from Germany for sure SMILEY

Bai · 10-20-2010, 08:49 PM

Bally's all the way!

Calthine · 10-20-2010, 09:33 PM

portorp wrote:

When will we find out so we can make travel plans

When they get all the arrangements made, contracts signed and everything in place to make it fer daggone sure. Not before.

Last year we got word a few months earlier than usual, which was awesome.

Oz · 10-21-2010, 12:01 PM

Being that I live here I'd have to say that Bally's would be better. Hilton would require that many visitors who want to see the sights would have to save more money for transportation alone. Not much is in short walking distance from this place.

This isn't the case with Bally's.

Besides I personally think Hilton went for the suck when they got rid of the Star Trek Experience... Quark's bar was awesome... now it's not there anymore. =(

Oz · 10-21-2010, 12:06 PM

Miss_Jackie wrote:

You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.

It's probably easier on the people hosting the fanfaire though.

Seeing as tourism and conventions are our business here in Vegas.

And it would probably be the same for us the other way around if it were where you felt it should be at.

minimind · 10-21-2010, 12:32 PM

Ozza wrote:

Miss_Jackie wrote:
You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.
It's probably easier on the people hosting the fanfaire though.
Seeing as tourism and conventions are our business here in Vegas.
And it would probably be the same for us the other way around if it were where you felt it should be at.

Ya, that's what it really comes down to.

For SOE, Vegas is:

A massive collection of competitive venues
Close enough to San Diego to drive large amounts of equipment over
Close enough to an SOE headquarters to justify/fund more employee's participation

For many attendees, Vegas is:

Fun to explore when not doing Fan Faire stuff
Cheaper to get to due to discounted air costs
Great for allowing public drunkenness

While it's not true for everyone, it's true for enough people to make it a winning option in the latest years.

biopeaco · 10-22-2010, 01:04 PM

The Hilton creats a vaccum, Ballys much better plus its on the strip. Hilton rooms are tiny. Plus u have to walk all over hells half acre to get anywhere

Naya · 10-23-2010, 10:18 PM

I also think Bally's is the best location. Last Fan Faire I had a great time at Bally's and went to the Star Trek Convention over at the Hiltion and was annoyed by the amount of walking I had to do to get from the Monorail station to the convention center. Also as others have stated Bally's is central strip and my last day I took advantage of that fact and expolored some of the nearby hotels and casinos.

Laxyo · 10-24-2010, 09:50 PM

Hilton in August: can't do July The weekend of July 15 I have Poalris convention in Toront, I'm part of the Dealer Liasion team, its the 25th anniversary.

duskmacabre · 10-25-2010, 04:13 PM

Please choose the East coast... we are feeling so left out... Somewhere like Louisville, KY would be a great lcoation, or somewhere in Ohio... its on east coast but still somewhat central lcoation for those players in southern states liek Florida or TX...

TheGeneral · 10-25-2010, 08:43 PM

Balley's in July. The kids are still out of school. Holding it once the kids are back in school makes it a pain.

Wgra · 10-25-2010, 10:07 PM

Dude. Toronto.

Slackerba · 10-26-2010, 03:51 AM

carolinagirl78 wrote:

Miss_Jackie wrote:
You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there.
I AGREE!!!!
I would love to go but if it is not within a decent driving distance I will never be able to go =(

I second that motion.Although,Boston would be great because i live just outside of it.Make a neutral site like St.Louis or somewhere halfway so both east & west coast would agree.

LochaberPolec · 10-26-2010, 07:51 AM

Bally's

10-18-2010, 12:59 PM	#124
Kais Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1	Meric wrote: I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend. That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location.

10-18-2010, 01:07 PM	#125
Texana Happy Camper Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 15	Meric wrote: I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend. You have to add in another $15 per day if you want to visit the strip without renting a car.

10-18-2010, 03:28 PM	#127
broojij Happy Camper Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 24	Kaisho wrote: Meric wrote: I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend. That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location. I agree.. the location and hotel are not the best. do remember the extra cost of transportation to places other than the hotel from the hilton, no matter if you drive, rent, taxi or monorail and the heat if you choose to walk.. by far Bally's is much better, I got lucky at this past FanFaire and got in the tower right next to the convention center and everyone was friendly and I had a blast. My room was clean and well maintained, only complaint I had was the view of the roof and not the strip, but I still had a wonderful time and think that the extra cost to be closer to everything is the way to go. 2f5ad268-03ba-4c83-8d2b-f2c0319d62d3 1.03.01

10-18-2010, 03:47 PM	#128
minimind Journeyman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4	Kaisho wrote: Meric wrote: I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend. That alone should speak volume's of what people think of the Hilton and their location. Well, if the GF and I have to buy 3-day monorail passes (2x$28) to get to and from the Hilton when not doing fan faire stuff (since Quark's gone, there's nothing to keep me there), then by cost alone, Bally's is still better. Cost aside, the GF and I spent almost the entire time during this past fan faire at Bally's, Paris, and the Miracle Mile. It's stuff we like. Bally's just makes sense for us.

10-18-2010, 05:57 PM	#129
Gre Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Fraugas wrote: one word.... DENVER! lol SOE Denver is here already, there are tons of great hotels from Denver proper to DIA. Mensa holds it's conventions in Denver . Just because I moved to Denver from Vegas means nothing . July 4th weekend is a bit tough as it will be a week before NBA summer league for my step son, so I'd have to fly back the following week so he could attend that. As an ex-Vegan, Hilton is a total dive, and far as I know: it still does not offer in room Wifi, there is indeed Wifi at Bally's it is a separate service so you have to do a network scan to find it. I believe a great solution to that would be eliminate the 'platinum lounge' that no one used really in 2010 and turn that space into an area that those who brought their own laptops/rigs could set up and play instead of adding to the congestion of the 'gaming area'. I'm not knocking the gaming area from 2010, I believe it was a good effort; felt bad for those without platinum passes as they seemed to never get a shot at the machines.

10-18-2010, 12:43 PM	#121
Joxter Newbie Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1	Would be nice to have something on the east coast for those of us who cannot afford to go that far. Bally's is the better of the two.

10-18-2010, 12:52 PM	#122
Calthine SOE Community Council Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 181	I was just browsing flights and costs... if there's any way to get this locked in and official before the end of the year I can save a bundle! Edit: That's on either date. I'd still much prefer Bally's over the Hilton, but just going is awesome.

10-18-2010, 12:54 PM	#123
Meric Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 102	I can't believe that peeps are voting for the Bally's when the Hilton is $50 cheaper over the weekend.

10-18-2010, 03:27 PM	#126
Vort Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	Where's my none option? I demand a none option. In reality I don't dislike Fan Faire as a concept..., but too much relies on Fan Faire each year to gain community input. As well as the factor that allowing developers to fraternize with players simply makes the communication too personal and subject to possible corruption.

10-18-2010, 07:23 PM	#130
ChetandChel Newbie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1	I vote for the Hilton. Bally's is great and all, but it's a pain to get to, if you're driving over busy summer weekends. All the shows and traffic suck for transportation. Plus, August is a better time for us Go Hilton, Go Fight Win!

10-18-2010, 08:31 PM	#131
BuddieRowe The Quiet Type Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13	Hilton is far from everything ... Bally's in middle of everything .... either one as dates work but but being near strip did Rio and Hilton before ... much better time at Bally's.... I know its been said before but will say again lots of citys have great convention systems, where i live wont work but still many citys do .... think about changing it up .... just to add some spice .... i loved Atlanta and New Orleans... like vegas but a change would be good BuddieRowe

10-18-2010, 10:44 PM	#132
Yivvits Forum Champion Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3	Voted Bally's but I gotta say, I still had the best time at the 2007 FF at the Rio. The roof-top and outdoors parties were still the best of any FF's I've been to. The Hilton one was my least fav location.

10-19-2010, 12:11 AM	#133
Linyar The Quiet Type Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17	I like the August dates better, plus I won like hundreds of dollars in the casino at the Hilton last time we were there. Also the Hilton is much larger and we could have a bigger Faire! But I voted for Bally's cause the Hilton was such a dump... apparently their policy is "Bring Your Own Toilet Paper" in the convention area. Bally's has a great location, the rooms are nicer, and the pool party was a blast! Thanks for posting this survey with the dates so early!

10-19-2010, 02:01 AM	#134
Dented The Quiet Type Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bourne, MA Posts: 29	Vortex wrote: Where's my none option? I demand a none option. In reality I don't dislike Fan Faire as a concept..., but too much relies on Fan Faire each year to gain community input. As well as the factor that allowing developers to fraternize with players simply makes the communication too personal and subject to possible corruption. Have you attended fan faire in the past?

10-19-2010, 03:45 AM	#135
Leafwe Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1	Bally's is on the strip but their rooms haven't been updated in 20 years and their lobby actually had plaster falling down in it last year. Hilton is a block from Circus Circus and everything else you need is easily reachable via the monorail. If it's at the Hilton, I'll actually stay there. If it's at Bally's I'll be grabbing a room at the Luxor or the Bellagio instead. I've been to two at the Hilton and one at Bally's, didn't like Bally's at all.

10-19-2010, 03:41 PM	#136
portorp The Quiet Type Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 6	When will we find out so we can make travel plans

10-20-2010, 07:28 PM	#137
imrahil_donnergroll Happy Camper Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 50	Larassea_Valor wrote: I am saving enough money to get to FanFaire 2011 from Germany. Would be cool to meet more people from Germany for sure

10-20-2010, 08:49 PM	#138
Bai Newbie Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6	Bally's all the way!

10-20-2010, 09:33 PM	#139
Calthine SOE Community Council Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 181	portorp wrote: When will we find out so we can make travel plans When they get all the arrangements made, contracts signed and everything in place to make it fer daggone sure. Not before. Last year we got word a few months earlier than usual, which was awesome.

10-21-2010, 12:01 PM	#140
Oz Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8	Being that I live here I'd have to say that Bally's would be better. Hilton would require that many visitors who want to see the sights would have to save more money for transportation alone. Not much is in short walking distance from this place. This isn't the case with Bally's. Besides I personally think Hilton went for the suck when they got rid of the Star Trek Experience... Quark's bar was awesome... now it's not there anymore. =(

10-21-2010, 12:06 PM	#141
Oz Newbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8	Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. It's probably easier on the people hosting the fanfaire though. Seeing as tourism and conventions are our business here in Vegas. And it would probably be the same for us the other way around if it were where you felt it should be at.

10-21-2010, 12:32 PM	#142
minimind Journeyman Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4	Ozza wrote: Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. It's probably easier on the people hosting the fanfaire though. Seeing as tourism and conventions are our business here in Vegas. And it would probably be the same for us the other way around if it were where you felt it should be at. Ya, that's what it really comes down to. For SOE, Vegas is: A massive collection of competitive venues Close enough to San Diego to drive large amounts of equipment over Close enough to an SOE headquarters to justify/fund more employee's participation For many attendees, Vegas is: Fun to explore when not doing Fan Faire stuff Cheaper to get to due to discounted air costs Great for allowing public drunkenness While it's not true for everyone, it's true for enough people to make it a winning option in the latest years.

10-22-2010, 01:04 PM	#143
biopeaco Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1	The Hilton creats a vaccum, Ballys much better plus its on the strip. Hilton rooms are tiny. Plus u have to walk all over hells half acre to get anywhere

10-23-2010, 10:18 PM	#144
Naya The Quiet Type Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12	I also think Bally's is the best location. Last Fan Faire I had a great time at Bally's and went to the Star Trek Convention over at the Hiltion and was annoyed by the amount of walking I had to do to get from the Monorail station to the convention center. Also as others have stated Bally's is central strip and my last day I took advantage of that fact and expolored some of the nearby hotels and casinos.

10-24-2010, 09:50 PM	#145
Laxyo Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	Hilton in August: can't do July The weekend of July 15 I have Poalris convention in Toront, I'm part of the Dealer Liasion team, its the 25th anniversary.

10-25-2010, 04:13 PM	#146
duskmacabre The Quiet Type Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2	Please choose the East coast... we are feeling so left out... Somewhere like Louisville, KY would be a great lcoation, or somewhere in Ohio... its on east coast but still somewhat central lcoation for those players in southern states liek Florida or TX...

10-25-2010, 08:43 PM	#147
TheGeneral Happy Camper Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1	Balley's in July. The kids are still out of school. Holding it once the kids are back in school makes it a pain.

10-25-2010, 10:07 PM	#148
Wgra Newbie Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1	Dude. Toronto.

10-26-2010, 03:51 AM	#149
Slackerba Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	carolinagirl78 wrote: Miss_Jackie wrote: You people need to stop having FF's out in Las Vegas. *Not all of us* can afford a trip there. I AGREE!!!! I would love to go but if it is not within a decent driving distance I will never be able to go =( I second that motion.Although,Boston would be great because i live just outside of it.Make a neutral site like St.Louis or somewhere halfway so both east & west coast would agree.

10-26-2010, 07:51 AM	#150
LochaberPolec Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1	Bally's