General TSO/GU #50 feedback - Page 4

Daryx · 11-20-2008, 12:10 AM

I just checked my combat log and it appears Reversal from the warrior stamina line isn't proc'ing at all for any shield type other than buckler, so it's working still as it did pre-LU50. I've bugged it, again.

Rhodan · 11-20-2008, 12:31 AM

Well here goes my opinion of TSO and GU 50:

Not worth $40 so far. Last couple TSO instances I ran was too hard and not worth it. No fabled drops, only a few 'good' legendary drops, and it's to long and we couldn't complete them in one night. I can understand that some strategies on mobs haven't been worked out or posted anywhere, and I can handle a challenge, but this doesn't count for the aggro holding issues my group has recently encountered. Taunts, noted from my friend, get resisted TOO often, and I can even notice. Before the expansion, I can just cast my CA's on my ranger and not worry about aggro issues. Now, I even have to use my fae racial teleport+detaunt (worth about 6k detaunt)ability to try to get aggro off of me if I get it. It may be so that we are responsible for using our de-taunts, but the tanks taunts are more of an issue now than before, with incredible resistability. Make taunts less resistable, and give a slightly better chance at good loot, and I may consider going back into Guk or some of the other zones. On a side note, I don't think its fair for our guild, who had to reform 3 times, to be even more farther behind the guilds who sucessfully cleared VP, who are now clearing the new zones of TSO with little or no trouble because of their gear.

Other issues i find is the neglect of the ranger class (oh what a suprise. ) No coverage fix, no change made to focus aim AA upgrade in the shadow line, no compensation for flurrys, auto aoe attacks, no 0 meter range on our CA's with our epic bow, a crappy aoe effect on the explosive arrow CA that doesnt do more than 1k damage area wide, repeating arrows still bloody useless, and only 1 line in our ranger tree that directly increases our damage output. I'm sure that us rangers arent the only ones neglected, and I can respect the fact that not all classes may get a change before the release date of this expansion, but COME ON! We have been ignored for too long to put up with this. Just remove the /feedback command if none of the developers will soo much as adress our issues, and again not just rangers. I for one, would also like the poison spell in the predator portion of the shadows tree to be changed to reduce critical mitigation than reducing their chance to critically attack.

I also find PvP useless as well. 100-150 tokens, spending plat, AND status, along with only 1 token per 5 kills. Thats 500 kills just to get 1 single pvp item. Remove this system and implement the old one, the one which tokens drop from the player's chests. I also see a lack of jewlery and weapons and other goodies in the list of new pvp items. Making it challenging for the hard core player is nice, but it makes it impossible for the casual player, which is highly unacceptable. I would personally work as a PvP developer for free if I had the opportunity handed to me. I believe this is a great game, but it's dieing a bit fast due to stupid mistakes made in the development.

In a good note, I like some of the effort made into this expansion, and I enjoy the changes made to the brigand and the wizard AA lines. All the developers needs to do is admit their mistakes, ask for the needs of the other classes who are dissatisfied, change the achievement lines and other mechanics based on that, and there you satisfied the other communities of the other classes. They did it to Brigands, changing dispatch to add more debuff power and changing the murderous rake line completely, why not do it for the rest of the classes left ignored? Well this is my feedback, if you devs. read this and can't accept criticism, then it sucks to be you, because criticism is part of learning, and it leads to improvement if you listen.

magiusthewizard · 11-20-2008, 12:47 AM

if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time

Ceolus · 11-20-2008, 01:31 AM

Goldenpaw wrote:

Once question I have, is was it intentional to make all of our equipment / loot etc absolutely worthless?
I can sell my fabled / legendery gear now for 1g and some change? Surely this is a mistake? All 70-80 AD3s go for 92s - 1g and some change?

Perhaps to compensate for the 3-or-so platinum you can make from running a ±30-minute-long instance..and that's coinsplit to 6 people in an instance that can be done with fewer (Obelisk of Ahkzul or something).

magiusthewizard wrote:

if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time

I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around.

o0odangergirlo0 · 11-20-2008, 02:37 AM

Daryx@Oasis wrote:

For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back.

I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on.

daeaorn · 11-20-2008, 03:10 AM

The constant crashes suck and the loot from the 3 zones ive been to really is not that great at. Other then that I do like the expansion over all.

Trudge · 11-20-2008, 03:21 AM

idk if this has been covered yet or not.. but what about the WW Class channels established??.. we use those alot and are quite helpful.. is there anyway to communitcate publicly with other classes WW now?

shadowedwolf · 11-20-2008, 04:59 AM

It's an ok XPac from what I've seen so far. So first, the whining....

Bad lag spikes in Moors and SS was so horrible though that one second I'd be cutting through mobs (Pally in SS... so maybe he wasn't really cutting... but hey and Swashy in Moors) the next thing I'd know I dropped 70% in health.... I guess that's to be expected though, new XPac and all...

Disappointed about the return of Ashanti Sul... gotta wait for the raid guild on my server to open her up..... /sigh I knew I should just stuck with Bert...

AA lines.. ho hum. I think from lvl chat I picked all the wrong classes.... While I haven't bothered to commit 7 different TSO lines to memory... Rangers! Oh, assassin's get an end line heal they can use every 45s? That just blows. Rangers, of coarse, get nothing... oh well... an end line AoE that'll just draw even more unwanted attention. /Mutters unkind words about assassins and punts a Halfling...

Okay... I have beer now... I'm calm(ish). /eggs an assassins house. :p Well... atleast my Inquis has another either/or with beign a healer or battle cleric...

Okay... another thing thats bugging the heck outta me... and I don't know if I'm the only one seeing it (delusinal from being stuck helping in the Children's dept the last few days) or if I just haven't noticed anyone mention it... but... Wood elf and High elf females look REALLY off. The Wood Elves were never affected by the 'sexy' stance for wahtever reason, so it's not as noticable on them... but on the High Elves..... very noticable. The leg seems in more and instead of bent looks hyper-extended... both races look like have a steel rod shoved up their **** and welded to thier spine... and they look like they're arms look far from thier bodies... like thier carrying barrels of ale.. which, ya know, is really something they should think about for a Dwarf stance...

Seriously though, am I the only one seeing this; have I gone insane... or have others noticed this too? I asked a friend of mine but she said she hasn't noticed anything (and only plays DE's) but that doesn't mean anything because... well... yea...

Ok... other than that... from what I've seen of Moors (when I'm not jerk-knee lagging) it's BEAUTIFUL even w/o my grapics turned up to full affect. Now... when can we see some apperance armour like those Brokenskull(?) Trolls are wearing? Aside from the nauseia I felt from seeng half naked female Trolls... that clothing is just B.A! Nice quests, nice lore, useless (but still cool) mount. Hope to check out the new dungeons soon... have the next couple days off so /finges crossed

wellehad0 · 11-20-2008, 08:09 AM

o0odangergirlo0 wrote:

Daryx@Oasis wrote:
For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back.
I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on.

i can not see the devs doing a roll back to many people like my self have been grinding the new instances for the new gear non stop since the expansion 2 days is a lot when you wpent that whole time running thoughs things for gear. i dont think the exploit is as wide spread as most of you think heck i did not even know abou it in till 5 mins before i made this post... i say not just punish but pera ban all players who used the exploit for chas and if devs think banning is to harsh then strip thogs players of all spells and plat.. still laughing at the few who really think SOE shoudl punish everybody next your going to ask SOE to ban all players cause one little dude was speed hacking

Zorastiz · 11-20-2008, 09:53 AM

Ifury@Nagafen wrote:

o0odangergirlo0 wrote:
Daryx@Oasis wrote:
For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back.
I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on.
i can not see the devs doing a roll back to many people like my self have been grinding the new instances for the new gear non stop since the expansion 2 days is a lot when you wpent that whole time running thoughs things for gear. i dont think the exploit is as wide spread as most of you think heck i did not even know abou it in till 5 mins before i made this post... i say not just punish but pera ban all players who used the exploit for chas and if devs think banning is to harsh then strip thogs players of all spells and plat.. still laughing at the few who really think SOE shoudl punish everybody next your going to ask SOE to ban all players cause one little dude was speed hacking

I have neither bought or sold anything, in fact I have gained no exp, AA's nothing I have had a busy work week so that's part of it but basically in order to not be affected I'm doing nothing until the fix is in place. I have all weekend this week as my wife will be working so plenty of time for me to check things out.

Xethren · 11-20-2008, 09:54 AM

I noticed that "The Fallen Dynasty" adv pack is missing from the patcher options list since TSO's release.

Wanted to give devs a heads up

Lord Montague · 11-20-2008, 11:35 AM

Ceolus wrote:

magiusthewizard wrote:
if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time
I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's the OS version. A friend of mine was having similar crash problems and she runs XP. I don't know what they did to fix it (probably a full scan of the files would be my guess), but it is correctable.

Jeepned2 · 11-20-2008, 11:40 AM

Ok, so far not too bad. I expected the lag, happens at ever new expansion. I knew before hand that I wouldn't be thrilled with the Toub AA's and changes. The Coercer AA's are ok. The new content is fun enough and nearly all of it keeps you on your toes due to all the aggro (not a complaint). The instances are difficult enough to keep me interested. Some chat problems, but I'll live through it. Overall it gets a 7 out of 10, for now, but expect it to improve once some of the small annoyances get fixed. If I have one big complaint it's the quest journal. With a TON of new quests available, I would like to see a lot bigger quest journal. About 500 should work . I guess if this is my biggest complaint, then the expansion is pretty successful for me.

Khrunk · 11-20-2008, 12:48 PM

Seirrah@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Ceolus wrote:
magiusthewizard wrote:
if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time
I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around.
I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's the OS version. A friend of mine was having similar crash problems and she runs XP. I don't know what they did to fix it (probably a full scan of the files would be my guess), but it is correctable.

I use Vista 64bit with no issues, but my wife is using Vista 32 bit and is crashing alot. Which would lead me to believe its not an OS version issue at all. Not sure why people still want to spread lies about 64bit.

KindredHeart · 11-20-2008, 12:56 PM

Finally Meeting the Queen:

Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter.

Maps

Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane.
Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas).
The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller.
Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far.

Instances

Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far.
Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play.

Tradeskills

I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content.

Brimestar · 11-20-2008, 01:18 PM

DEVS PLEASE READ IN REGARDS TO PVP WRITS

I'm sure this has been metioned, but doesn't hurt to be mentioned again...

I have /petition (ed) this twice and it needs to be fixed....There are two pvp writs "Hero of the Void" (new) and Protectors of Cabilis (old). To get the new writ you have to right click on the writ giver and once you complete it you cannot get your token. To actually get your token you need to have the old writ and complete it as well to get the new token. I know from BETA that they took away the ability to have both writs at the same time. So, why do I need to complete the new and the old writ to get a new token? To me, if I complete one new writ I should be able to turn it in regardless of the old.

The last GM who I spoke with in game told me a special ticket would be submitted, so what is the status of that? I noticed in the pvp forums that other players are still having that same issue.

Brook · 11-20-2008, 01:31 PM

KindredHeart wrote:

Finally Meeting the Queen:
Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter.
Maps
Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane.
Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas).
The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller.
Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far.
Instances
Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far.
Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play.
Tradeskills
I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content.

You can enter the castle? How?

Gerras · 11-20-2008, 03:26 PM

Expansion:

I have been enjoying the work you did on the expansion yeah it lags at times but as previously mentioned on a new expansion this is expected. The instances are tough but it makes it a lot more interesting, especially for a guild that doesn't raid. It comes down to tactics and we already know there may be some we just won't be able to do. I would like to see a little more drops though.

Conjurer:

I have found that my conjurer is having issues with the pet. The pet can be standing right next to me and the spells are still red but sometimes they still work. Other times I get a message that says the pet is to far away and it is standing next to me.

Wizard:

All I can say is thanks and I can't wait to max out my AA's.

Tank:

I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers.

Soap Box:

{puts the soap box down and stands on it} As for the roll back. Well obviously it is too late now for the roll back to work because SOE would really upset a lot of legitimate people that have been grinding. Though SOE has really [Removed for Content] me off with this situation. Personally I want some proof that they are doing anything about it. Personally I want to see in the 70-79 and 80 chats that people are really upset because SOE did something. I just want the ones that bought from the broker and sold to the vendors brought down. Hey if they only sold what was in your bags, that's Sony's problem, that was not a true exploit (and I did this, but felt wrong so I bought it all back, idiot).

Pushing it under the rug like it never happened sends a message out to us as your game players, we never expect to get banned for anything we do anymore. Expect to start seeing players buy plat to gear up like the players that exploited the plat. Lets face it, it would only be fair (though they got it for free). How do you expect us players that are trying to enjoy the game getting what we earn to compete with players that exploited the plat and are now all mastered out? Think about it this way, your in the new instances, do you want a tank or dps that has 1 or 2 or a few masters to keep agro or deal damage or one that is mastered out? Personally as a dps class, I want a mastered tank to hold agro off me. Kind of hurts the others huh? I also play a tank and would want a mastered dps to take it down fast, kind of hurts the unmastered dpser's huh? Hey, how about a mastered healer, that would rock, leaves out my guildies right there.

I don't buy plat (and I am against this too), but you can't ban the ones that do now, they are trying to compete. If you don't have some way to show us you did something, then expect to see other bannable things start to happen and you really have no leg to stand on to stop it now.

Fair is fair, you opened pandora's box we didn't. Lets face the facts, you will be lucky you don't lose a lot of hardcore players for a goof up like this, you should have rolled back or at the least shut the servers down as it started and fixed them. It's not like you didn't do unexpected shut downs in the past.

To tell the truth, if it wasn't for the players I play with, I probably would start looking at something else due to this and yes, though I raid infrequently, I am on almost every night, grouping, helping newbies and having a good time. Pretty much a non-hardcore heavy player with multiple level 80's. (and because I raid infrequently, I am one of the unmastered, mostly.)

{gets back off the soap box and decides to put it away, he's done with his comments, now he waits to see the proof}

Kordran · 11-20-2008, 03:40 PM

Geras@Mistmoore wrote:

I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers.

Defensively the plate tanks are still fine, but aggro management has become much more of a group/raid responsibility, not just the sole responsibility of the tank. Where DPS classes used to be able to whack away with reckless abandon and fight over who's topping the parse, now things like actually using your detaunts becomes much more important. The approach that people take will have to change; like giving the tank time to build up initial aggro, leading off with your debuffs and lower-damage attacks first and building up to the big hitters once the mob has dropped lower in health. Players will also have to start learning to take responsibility for their own hate, and not just expect the tank to cover their rear while they put the pedal to the metal looking for those "big hits".

Edit: I would say that solid group builds and players who pay attention are also more important than ever before. However, it also goes without saying that TSO instances are going to be more demanding of tanks, and require that they have better gear and higher skillsets than in previous expansions. Who will be really affected by this are the tanks who are running around in mastercrafted and/or the lower end legendary sets with all ad3 spells. Tanks running around with a base < 10K health, < 50% mitigation and < 50 avoidance (e.g.: not in their defensive stance) are going to have a rough go at it.

Gerras · 11-20-2008, 03:46 PM

Kordran wrote:

Geras@Mistmoore wrote:
I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers.
Defensively the plate tanks are still fine, but aggro management has become much more of a group/raid responsibility, not just the sole responsibility of the tank. Where DPS classes used to be able to whack away with reckless abandon and fight over who's topping the parse, now things like actually using your detaunts becomes much more important. The approach that people take will have to change; like giving the tank time to build up initial aggro, leading off with your debuffs and lower-damage attacks first and building up to the big hitters once the mob has dropped lower in health. Players will also have to start learning to take responsibility for their own hate, and not just expect the tank to cover their rear while they put the pedal to the metal looking for those "big hits".

Cool, been doing that with my Wizzy for a while, so play change shouldn't change much for a wizzy.

Gilasil · 11-20-2008, 03:54 PM

Good:

All of a sudden I have some real choices I have to make for my bruiser's AA's. Looks like I'll have to dust off my AA mirror too.

Bad:

Can you say LAG?!?!? Server lag was so bad in the new zones I had to leave. Once I went back to Kunark it was fine but while in the new zones I'd hit a CAs and nothing would happen for seconds. There were a few fights I had to do pretty much on autoattack and almost died to mobs I had nobusiness dying to. Throughout the ping was always 190-250 ms and framerate between 15 and 25 fps. Others were complaining about the exact same thing.

If the lag doesn't get better you won't see me in the new zones. If it's a permanent situation you may not see me at all.

Ugly:

Letting cheaters get away with it is a VERY bad example. Did they even TRY to do anything? Yea I know the devs don't exactly have a stirly reputation themselves but you'd think they'd at least make a token effort to maintain the integrity of the game.

gainerface · 11-20-2008, 04:30 PM

Gilasil wrote:

get away with it is a VERY bad example. Did they even TRY to do anything? Yea I know the devs don't exactly have a stirly reputation themselves but you'd think they'd at least make a token effort to maintain the integrity of the game.

Apparantly they've been rolling back characters that created a lot of coin since launch but haven't rolled back any items or coin transferred via broker and guild bank transactions.

I read a few posts from people very proud of themselves for keeping exploited monies by purchasing junk items from their characters on other accounts at inflated prices and transferring masters through the guild banks. So it seems that they're not taking this very seriously at all.

KindredHeart · 11-20-2008, 04:41 PM

Brook wrote:

KindredHeart wrote:
Finally Meeting the Queen:
Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter.
Maps
Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane.
Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas).
The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller.
Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far.
Instances
Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far.
Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play.
Tradeskills
I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content.
You can enter the castle? How?

Speak to the NPC near the bar in Qeynos Harbor

Rageincarnate · 11-20-2008, 04:43 PM

it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician"

Gerras · 11-20-2008, 04:49 PM

bluedego wrote:

it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician"

Oh, that's good...

Trudge · 11-20-2008, 05:46 PM

PLEASE FIX THE SUDDEN DROPPING!!!!

I HAVE PLAYED FOR 1 HOUR AND DROPPED ALMOST 14 TIMES!!!!!

WON'T PLAY TILL FIXED.. SO PLEASE DO IT!!!!

THANK YOU!

Trudge of the Blacksheep

LVL 80 Defiler

Splitpaw

gainerface · 11-20-2008, 06:28 PM

This was happening to me on a computer that is running Vista 32bit and disabling multi-core support fixed the problem.

surepaw · 11-20-2008, 06:34 PM

bluedego wrote:

it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician"

I like it, I like it alot!!!

Anastasie · 11-20-2008, 06:36 PM

A few things that I believe need fixing:

Boss mobs not giving status in instances

Chests that drop from raid named encounters are lacking the coin drops

Daryx · 11-20-2008, 07:08 PM

KindredHeart wrote:

Brook wrote:
KindredHeart wrote:
You can enter the castle? How?
Speak to the NPC near the bar in Qeynos Harbor

Is there a requirement you have to have some amount of faction or level? None of my characters gets her to say anything other than she often attends to "Our Antonia's" business.

NVM, looked her up on allakhazam, level requirement.

11-20-2008, 01:31 AM	#94
Ceolus Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California, USA Posts: 257	Goldenpaw wrote: Once question I have, is was it intentional to make all of our equipment / loot etc absolutely worthless? I can sell my fabled / legendery gear now for 1g and some change? Surely this is a mistake? All 70-80 AD3s go for 92s - 1g and some change? Perhaps to compensate for the 3-or-so platinum you can make from running a ±30-minute-long instance..and that's coinsplit to 6 people in an instance that can be done with fewer (Obelisk of Ahkzul or something). magiusthewizard wrote: if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around. __________________

11-20-2008, 02:37 AM	#95
o0odangergirlo0 Lord Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21	Daryx@Oasis wrote: For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back. I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on.

11-20-2008, 03:10 AM	#96
daeaorn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 50	The constant crashes suck and the loot from the 3 zones ive been to really is not that great at. Other then that I do like the expansion over all. __________________ Crushbone Server: [88 Templar / 41 Sage] Daeaorn (Human) [74 Paladin / 79 Alchemist] Frogmasta (Froglok)

11-20-2008, 04:59 AM	#98
shadowedwolf Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 299	It's an ok XPac from what I've seen so far. So first, the whining.... Bad lag spikes in Moors and SS was so horrible though that one second I'd be cutting through mobs (Pally in SS... so maybe he wasn't really cutting... but hey and Swashy in Moors) the next thing I'd know I dropped 70% in health.... I guess that's to be expected though, new XPac and all... Disappointed about the return of Ashanti Sul... gotta wait for the raid guild on my server to open her up..... /sigh I knew I should just stuck with Bert... AA lines.. ho hum. I think from lvl chat I picked all the wrong classes.... While I haven't bothered to commit 7 different TSO lines to memory... Rangers! Oh, assassin's get an end line heal they can use every 45s? That just blows. Rangers, of coarse, get nothing... oh well... an end line AoE that'll just draw even more unwanted attention. /Mutters unkind words about assassins and punts a Halfling... Okay... I have beer now... I'm calm(ish). /eggs an assassins house. :p Well... atleast my Inquis has another either/or with beign a healer or battle cleric... Okay... another thing thats bugging the heck outta me... and I don't know if I'm the only one seeing it (delusinal from being stuck helping in the Children's dept the last few days) or if I just haven't noticed anyone mention it... but... Wood elf and High elf females look REALLY off. The Wood Elves were never affected by the 'sexy' stance for wahtever reason, so it's not as noticable on them... but on the High Elves..... very noticable. The leg seems in more and instead of bent looks hyper-extended... both races look like have a steel rod shoved up their **** and welded to thier spine... and they look like they're arms look far from thier bodies... like thier carrying barrels of ale.. which, ya know, is really something they should think about for a Dwarf stance... Seriously though, am I the only one seeing this; have I gone insane... or have others noticed this too? I asked a friend of mine but she said she hasn't noticed anything (and only plays DE's) but that doesn't mean anything because... well... yea... Ok... other than that... from what I've seen of Moors (when I'm not jerk-knee lagging) it's BEAUTIFUL even w/o my grapics turned up to full affect. Now... when can we see some apperance armour like those Brokenskull(?) Trolls are wearing? Aside from the nauseia I felt from seeng half naked female Trolls... that clothing is just B.A! Nice quests, nice lore, useless (but still cool) mount. Hope to check out the new dungeons soon... have the next couple days off so /finges crossed __________________ http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/w...ina150X500.jpg" border="0" width="500" height="100" >

11-20-2008, 08:09 AM	#99
wellehad0 Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 335	o0odangergirlo0 wrote: Daryx@Oasis wrote: For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back. I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on. i can not see the devs doing a roll back to many people like my self have been grinding the new instances for the new gear non stop since the expansion 2 days is a lot when you wpent that whole time running thoughs things for gear. i dont think the exploit is as wide spread as most of you think heck i did not even know abou it in till 5 mins before i made this post... i say not just punish but pera ban all players who used the exploit for chas and if devs think banning is to harsh then strip thogs players of all spells and plat.. still laughing at the few who really think SOE shoudl punish everybody next your going to ask SOE to ban all players cause one little dude was speed hacking

11-20-2008, 12:10 AM	#91
Daryx Server: Oasis Guild: Ardagh Chalice Rank: Chieftain Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 211	I just checked my combat log and it appears Reversal from the warrior stamina line isn't proc'ing at all for any shield type other than buckler, so it's working still as it did pre-LU50. I've bugged it, again.

11-20-2008, 12:31 AM	#92
Rhodan Server: Nagafen Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 223	Well here goes my opinion of TSO and GU 50: Not worth $40 so far. Last couple TSO instances I ran was too hard and not worth it. No fabled drops, only a few 'good' legendary drops, and it's to long and we couldn't complete them in one night. I can understand that some strategies on mobs haven't been worked out or posted anywhere, and I can handle a challenge, but this doesn't count for the aggro holding issues my group has recently encountered. Taunts, noted from my friend, get resisted TOO often, and I can even notice. Before the expansion, I can just cast my CA's on my ranger and not worry about aggro issues. Now, I even have to use my fae racial teleport+detaunt (worth about 6k detaunt)ability to try to get aggro off of me if I get it. It may be so that we are responsible for using our de-taunts, but the tanks taunts are more of an issue now than before, with incredible resistability. Make taunts less resistable, and give a slightly better chance at good loot, and I may consider going back into Guk or some of the other zones. On a side note, I don't think its fair for our guild, who had to reform 3 times, to be even more farther behind the guilds who sucessfully cleared VP, who are now clearing the new zones of TSO with little or no trouble because of their gear. Other issues i find is the neglect of the ranger class (oh what a suprise. ) No coverage fix, no change made to focus aim AA upgrade in the shadow line, no compensation for flurrys, auto aoe attacks, no 0 meter range on our CA's with our epic bow, a crappy aoe effect on the explosive arrow CA that doesnt do more than 1k damage area wide, repeating arrows still bloody useless, and only 1 line in our ranger tree that directly increases our damage output. I'm sure that us rangers arent the only ones neglected, and I can respect the fact that not all classes may get a change before the release date of this expansion, but COME ON! We have been ignored for too long to put up with this. Just remove the /feedback command if none of the developers will soo much as adress our issues, and again not just rangers. I for one, would also like the poison spell in the predator portion of the shadows tree to be changed to reduce critical mitigation than reducing their chance to critically attack. I also find PvP useless as well. 100-150 tokens, spending plat, AND status, along with only 1 token per 5 kills. Thats 500 kills just to get 1 single pvp item. Remove this system and implement the old one, the one which tokens drop from the player's chests. I also see a lack of jewlery and weapons and other goodies in the list of new pvp items. Making it challenging for the hard core player is nice, but it makes it impossible for the casual player, which is highly unacceptable. I would personally work as a PvP developer for free if I had the opportunity handed to me. I believe this is a great game, but it's dieing a bit fast due to stupid mistakes made in the development. In a good note, I like some of the effort made into this expansion, and I enjoy the changes made to the brigand and the wizard AA lines. All the developers needs to do is admit their mistakes, ask for the needs of the other classes who are dissatisfied, change the achievement lines and other mechanics based on that, and there you satisfied the other communities of the other classes. They did it to Brigands, changing dispatch to add more debuff power and changing the murderous rake line completely, why not do it for the rest of the classes left ignored? Well this is my feedback, if you devs. read this and can't accept criticism, then it sucks to be you, because criticism is part of learning, and it leads to improvement if you listen.

11-20-2008, 12:47 AM	#93
magiusthewizard Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 26	if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time

11-20-2008, 03:21 AM	#97
Trudge Server: Splitpaw Guild: Equality Rank: The Guards Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2	idk if this has been covered yet or not.. but what about the WW Class channels established??.. we use those alot and are quite helpful.. is there anyway to communitcate publicly with other classes WW now?

11-20-2008, 09:53 AM	#100
Zorastiz Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Dressed To Kill Rank: Prince of Darkness Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 955	Ifury@Nagafen wrote: o0odangergirlo0 wrote: Daryx@Oasis wrote: For anyone who hasn't seen, the message of the day states that they are aware of the plat exploit and once they come up with the solution those who participated will have the benefits they got from it removed. Granted not everyone sees the MOTD but they ARE aware and going to fix it, apparently without rolling back. I really can't see this working, since it's been so long and a lot actual exploited plat was spent in game on items. masters what not. I see no other choice but a roll back, which I am in favor for. And the sooer the better. I really am not sure why the servers weren't shut down when this becaome known. From the sounds of in game chat its very wide spread and past the point of picking out accounts that participate. At this point I am disheartened with the way this happening and the way it's still go on. i can not see the devs doing a roll back to many people like my self have been grinding the new instances for the new gear non stop since the expansion 2 days is a lot when you wpent that whole time running thoughs things for gear. i dont think the exploit is as wide spread as most of you think heck i did not even know abou it in till 5 mins before i made this post... i say not just punish but pera ban all players who used the exploit for chas and if devs think banning is to harsh then strip thogs players of all spells and plat.. still laughing at the few who really think SOE shoudl punish everybody next your going to ask SOE to ban all players cause one little dude was speed hacking I have neither bought or sold anything, in fact I have gained no exp, AA's nothing I have had a busy work week so that's part of it but basically in order to not be affected I'm doing nothing until the fix is in place. I have all weekend this week as my wife will be working so plenty of time for me to check things out. __________________

11-20-2008, 09:54 AM	#101
Xethren Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Okami Shyakai Rank: Den Watcher Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 433	I noticed that "The Fallen Dynasty" adv pack is missing from the patcher options list since TSO's release. Wanted to give devs a heads up

11-20-2008, 11:35 AM	#102
Lord Montague Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 541	Ceolus wrote: magiusthewizard wrote: if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around. I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's the OS version. A friend of mine was having similar crash problems and she runs XP. I don't know what they did to fix it (probably a full scan of the files would be my guess), but it is correctable.

11-20-2008, 11:40 AM	#103
Jeepned2 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 595	Ok, so far not too bad. I expected the lag, happens at ever new expansion. I knew before hand that I wouldn't be thrilled with the Toub AA's and changes. The Coercer AA's are ok. The new content is fun enough and nearly all of it keeps you on your toes due to all the aggro (not a complaint). The instances are difficult enough to keep me interested. Some chat problems, but I'll live through it. Overall it gets a 7 out of 10, for now, but expect it to improve once some of the small annoyances get fixed. If I have one big complaint it's the quest journal. With a TON of new quests available, I would like to see a lot bigger quest journal. About 500 should work . I guess if this is my biggest complaint, then the expansion is pretty successful for me.

11-20-2008, 12:48 PM	#104
Khrunk Server: Venekor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 266	Seirrah@Antonia Bayle wrote: Ceolus wrote: magiusthewizard wrote: if there are any devs reading this thread, pls let us in on what is causing theses game crashes. 12 crashes in less than 1hr tonight, 7 last night...last one i was barely able to enter game before i was sent right back to desktop. i feel like i am being robbed. i did not pay $40 to play for 3-5 mins at a time I heard someone mention that Vista 64-bit was causing the problems (as usual) and they mentioned how they fixed it. Might want to look it up or ask around. I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's the OS version. A friend of mine was having similar crash problems and she runs XP. I don't know what they did to fix it (probably a full scan of the files would be my guess), but it is correctable. I use Vista 64bit with no issues, but my wife is using Vista 32 bit and is crashing alot. Which would lead me to believe its not an OS version issue at all. Not sure why people still want to spread lies about 64bit.

11-20-2008, 12:56 PM	#105
KindredHeart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 339	Finally Meeting the Queen: Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter. Maps Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane. Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas). The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller. Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far. Instances Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far. Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play. Tradeskills I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content. __________________ Vallar (90 Mystic) Guild Leader - Devil's Rejects (Guk Server) http://gukrejects.guildportal.com

11-20-2008, 01:18 PM	#106
Brimestar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL (USA) Posts: 883	DEVS PLEASE READ IN REGARDS TO PVP WRITS I'm sure this has been metioned, but doesn't hurt to be mentioned again... I have /petition (ed) this twice and it needs to be fixed....There are two pvp writs "Hero of the Void" (new) and Protectors of Cabilis (old). To get the new writ you have to right click on the writ giver and once you complete it you cannot get your token. To actually get your token you need to have the old writ and complete it as well to get the new token. I know from BETA that they took away the ability to have both writs at the same time. So, why do I need to complete the new and the old writ to get a new token? To me, if I complete one new writ I should be able to turn it in regardless of the old. The last GM who I spoke with in game told me a special ticket would be submitted, so what is the status of that? I noticed in the pvp forums that other players are still having that same issue. __________________ Create your Profile at MyArmedForces.com.

11-20-2008, 01:31 PM	#107
Brook Tester Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336	KindredHeart wrote: Finally Meeting the Queen: Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter. Maps Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane. Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas). The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller. Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far. Instances Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far. Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play. Tradeskills I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content. You can enter the castle? How? __________________ But seriously, you're the kind of guy that zones into gears without a healer and spends the whole match talking about the fact there isn't a healer instead of contributing. I hate you, and everyone like you that plays this game. Please spend less time whining and more time winning, it contributes to the general growth of the game and makes gameplay more enjoyable for all.

11-20-2008, 03:26 PM	#108
Gerras Server: Mistmoore Guild: Shadows and Dust Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 25	Expansion: I have been enjoying the work you did on the expansion yeah it lags at times but as previously mentioned on a new expansion this is expected. The instances are tough but it makes it a lot more interesting, especially for a guild that doesn't raid. It comes down to tactics and we already know there may be some we just won't be able to do. I would like to see a little more drops though. Conjurer: I have found that my conjurer is having issues with the pet. The pet can be standing right next to me and the spells are still red but sometimes they still work. Other times I get a message that says the pet is to far away and it is standing next to me. Wizard: All I can say is thanks and I can't wait to max out my AA's. Tank: I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers. Soap Box: {puts the soap box down and stands on it} As for the roll back. Well obviously it is too late now for the roll back to work because SOE would really upset a lot of legitimate people that have been grinding. Though SOE has really [Removed for Content] me off with this situation. Personally I want some proof that they are doing anything about it. Personally I want to see in the 70-79 and 80 chats that people are really upset because SOE did something. I just want the ones that bought from the broker and sold to the vendors brought down. Hey if they only sold what was in your bags, that's Sony's problem, that was not a true exploit (and I did this, but felt wrong so I bought it all back, idiot). Pushing it under the rug like it never happened sends a message out to us as your game players, we never expect to get banned for anything we do anymore. Expect to start seeing players buy plat to gear up like the players that exploited the plat. Lets face it, it would only be fair (though they got it for free). How do you expect us players that are trying to enjoy the game getting what we earn to compete with players that exploited the plat and are now all mastered out? Think about it this way, your in the new instances, do you want a tank or dps that has 1 or 2 or a few masters to keep agro or deal damage or one that is mastered out? Personally as a dps class, I want a mastered tank to hold agro off me. Kind of hurts the others huh? I also play a tank and would want a mastered dps to take it down fast, kind of hurts the unmastered dpser's huh? Hey, how about a mastered healer, that would rock, leaves out my guildies right there. I don't buy plat (and I am against this too), but you can't ban the ones that do now, they are trying to compete. If you don't have some way to show us you did something, then expect to see other bannable things start to happen and you really have no leg to stand on to stop it now. Fair is fair, you opened pandora's box we didn't. Lets face the facts, you will be lucky you don't lose a lot of hardcore players for a goof up like this, you should have rolled back or at the least shut the servers down as it started and fixed them. It's not like you didn't do unexpected shut downs in the past. To tell the truth, if it wasn't for the players I play with, I probably would start looking at something else due to this and yes, though I raid infrequently, I am on almost every night, grouping, helping newbies and having a good time. Pretty much a non-hardcore heavy player with multiple level 80's. (and because I raid infrequently, I am one of the unmastered, mostly.) {gets back off the soap box and decides to put it away, he's done with his comments, now he waits to see the proof}

11-20-2008, 03:40 PM	#109
Kordran Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,484	Geras@Mistmoore wrote: I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers. Defensively the plate tanks are still fine, but aggro management has become much more of a group/raid responsibility, not just the sole responsibility of the tank. Where DPS classes used to be able to whack away with reckless abandon and fight over who's topping the parse, now things like actually using your detaunts becomes much more important. The approach that people take will have to change; like giving the tank time to build up initial aggro, leading off with your debuffs and lower-damage attacks first and building up to the big hitters once the mob has dropped lower in health. Players will also have to start learning to take responsibility for their own hate, and not just expect the tank to cover their rear while they put the pedal to the metal looking for those "big hits". Edit: I would say that solid group builds and players who pay attention are also more important than ever before. However, it also goes without saying that TSO instances are going to be more demanding of tanks, and require that they have better gear and higher skillsets than in previous expansions. Who will be really affected by this are the tanks who are running around in mastercrafted and/or the lower end legendary sets with all ad3 spells. Tanks running around with a base < 10K health, < 50% mitigation and < 50 avoidance (e.g.: not in their defensive stance) are going to have a rough go at it. __________________

11-20-2008, 03:46 PM	#110
Gerras Server: Mistmoore Guild: Shadows and Dust Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 25	Kordran wrote: Geras@Mistmoore wrote: I haven't had a chance to play it yet in an instance, I am enjoying the DPSing right now, but I have been told that holding agro is becoming, shall we say "interesting". You really may need to look into this. I have been told that Guards are not the meat shield they were in the past, they are having a "few" challenges with others like Bruisers. Defensively the plate tanks are still fine, but aggro management has become much more of a group/raid responsibility, not just the sole responsibility of the tank. Where DPS classes used to be able to whack away with reckless abandon and fight over who's topping the parse, now things like actually using your detaunts becomes much more important. The approach that people take will have to change; like giving the tank time to build up initial aggro, leading off with your debuffs and lower-damage attacks first and building up to the big hitters once the mob has dropped lower in health. Players will also have to start learning to take responsibility for their own hate, and not just expect the tank to cover their rear while they put the pedal to the metal looking for those "big hits". Cool, been doing that with my Wizzy for a while, so play change shouldn't change much for a wizzy.

11-20-2008, 03:54 PM	#111
Gilasil Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 907	Good: All of a sudden I have some real choices I have to make for my bruiser's AA's. Looks like I'll have to dust off my AA mirror too. Bad: Can you say LAG?!?!? Server lag was so bad in the new zones I had to leave. Once I went back to Kunark it was fine but while in the new zones I'd hit a CAs and nothing would happen for seconds. There were a few fights I had to do pretty much on autoattack and almost died to mobs I had nobusiness dying to. Throughout the ping was always 190-250 ms and framerate between 15 and 25 fps. Others were complaining about the exact same thing. If the lag doesn't get better you won't see me in the new zones. If it's a permanent situation you may not see me at all. Ugly: Letting cheaters get away with it is a VERY bad example. Did they even TRY to do anything? Yea I know the devs don't exactly have a stirly reputation themselves but you'd think they'd at least make a token effort to maintain the integrity of the game.

11-20-2008, 04:30 PM	#112
gainerface Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 58	Gilasil wrote: get away with it is a VERY bad example. Did they even TRY to do anything? Yea I know the devs don't exactly have a stirly reputation themselves but you'd think they'd at least make a token effort to maintain the integrity of the game. Apparantly they've been rolling back characters that created a lot of coin since launch but haven't rolled back any items or coin transferred via broker and guild bank transactions. I read a few posts from people very proud of themselves for keeping exploited monies by purchasing junk items from their characters on other accounts at inflated prices and transferring masters through the guild banks. So it seems that they're not taking this very seriously at all.

11-20-2008, 04:41 PM	#113
KindredHeart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 339	Brook wrote: KindredHeart wrote: Finally Meeting the Queen: Being able to finally click that door in North Qeynos and enter the castle...AHHH sweet release. I've been dying to do that since launch and even though I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more to do while in there or some little secret thing to find...I'm just so relieved to have finally been able to enter. Maps Please, pretty please, okay ... begging now...replace those feathers - they are seriously making me insane. Some zones do not permit zooming in close enough. In zones where NPCs or landmarks are tightly clustered it is more important to be able to zoom in more than the map currently permits (in some areas). The feathers and dots are massively annoying! The feathers are difficult to see on some backgrounds (color contrast is a problem) and being set at an angle and being so large they take up too much space. The previous convention of open circle / filed circle was much better. Additionally, all dots need to be MUCH smaller. Having more in game maps available, that is a good thing. But just about everything else with the new maps has only served to completely aggravate me thus far. Instances Having multiple instances - with various levels of difficulty and duration available = good thing. I have not yet run all of them, but have been pleased with the instances I have experienced thus far. Zone in to a few of the instances has been buggy thus far, but nothing game breaking or too prohibitive to game play. Tradeskills I've been busy taking in the adventuring aspects thus far, but have read about many of the TS activities included in this expansion and am very excited. With 3 epiced TSers I'm looking forward to experiencing this content. You can enter the castle? How? Speak to the NPC near the bar in Qeynos Harbor __________________ Vallar (90 Mystic) Guild Leader - Devil's Rejects (Guk Server) http://gukrejects.guildportal.com

11-20-2008, 04:43 PM	#114
Rageincarnate Server: Unrest Guild: Vindication Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 396	it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician"

11-20-2008, 04:49 PM	#115
Gerras Server: Mistmoore Guild: Shadows and Dust Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 25	bluedego wrote: it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician" Oh, that's good...

11-20-2008, 05:46 PM	#116
Trudge Server: Splitpaw Guild: Equality Rank: The Guards Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2	PLEASE FIX THE SUDDEN DROPPING!!!! I HAVE PLAYED FOR 1 HOUR AND DROPPED ALMOST 14 TIMES!!!!! WON'T PLAY TILL FIXED.. SO PLEASE DO IT!!!! THANK YOU! Trudge of the Blacksheep LVL 80 Defiler Splitpaw

11-20-2008, 06:28 PM	#117
gainerface Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 58	This was happening to me on a computer that is running Vista 32bit and disabling multi-core support fixed the problem.

11-20-2008, 06:34 PM	#118
surepaw Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: You would never believe me Posts: 139	bluedego wrote: it's kind of funny... it seems a mass of people went nuts with the exploits.. like throwing food to starving people? or just buttheads trying to get ahead of anyone else hand over foot? Thats a different story.. If masters werent so stupid rare... hah.. .I say make them keep their stuff.. and put a title on their name they can't remove and all their alts as well.. "The politician" I like it, I like it alot!!! __________________ swashbuckling, adj. [swosh-buhk-ling, swÅsh-bÅ*k-lÄ“ng] -Though many of us will automatically think of a pirate when we hear this word, it actually refers to the characteristics or manners of a 'swaggering swordsman, soldier, adventurer, or daredevil.' Swashbuckling appeared towards the end of the 17th century as the adjective form of English swashbuckler (circa 1560 CE), the 'swaggering swordsman' mentioned previously. This in turn is was formed by combining English swash and buckle. Swash started out as a noun first recorded in 1538 CE meaning 'the fall of a heavy body or blow' and may have been formed as an imitation of the sound made when this happens. It took on a verb form a few decades later, which appears to be the swash that begat our swashbuckler.

11-20-2008, 06:36 PM	#119
Anastasie Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 850	A few things that I believe need fixing: Boss mobs not giving status in instances Chests that drop from raid named encounters are lacking the coin drops

11-20-2008, 07:08 PM	#120
Daryx Server: Oasis Guild: Ardagh Chalice Rank: Chieftain Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 211	KindredHeart wrote: Brook wrote: KindredHeart wrote: You can enter the castle? How? Speak to the NPC near the bar in Qeynos Harbor Is there a requirement you have to have some amount of faction or level? None of my characters gets her to say anything other than she often attends to "Our Antonia's" business. NVM, looked her up on allakhazam, level requirement.