Game Update #35 Feedback [35, 35!!!] - Page 4

Pilgrim Divine · 06-07-2007, 11:27 AM

Id like to draw attention to the fact that you have caused a great deal of annoyance with your stealth nerfing of the warlock spell Rift. in LU35 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=365464 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=364517 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=365465 no notification, no discussion, no warning, nothing. thanks for your time

~Wik · 06-08-2007, 07:54 PM

For anyone complaining about the Arasai being a cut and paste I suggest looking at page 19 in "The Art of Everquest II" book. This book came with the orginal release of the game, in the collectors box.

It shows concept art of the Arasai along with Dark Elves.

I know not everyone has the collector's edition, but for those of you who do, take a peek.

Themaginator · 06-08-2007, 08:17 PM

~Wika~ wrote:

For anyone complaining about the Arasai being a cut and paste I suggest looking at page 19 in "The Art of Everquest II" book. This book came with the orginal release of the game, in the collectors box.
It shows concept art of the Arasai along with Dark Elves.
I know not everyone has the collector's edition, but for those of you who do, take a peek.

i agree with you that the Arasai are cool but i own that book and there is no Arasai concept art...thats all Dark Elf. no wings on anything nothing that remotely resembles the Arasai

~Wik · 06-09-2007, 02:30 AM

You need to look closer, since when do dark elves have bug eyes and slightly curled ears, that look like Arasai/Fae ears?

It is a head shot, and dark elves have eyes with pupils, not big shiny bug eyes like the art shows in that book. If you note the dark elven art on the page, they all have normal eyes. The concept in the right corner or so, has big purple bug eyes, with light glinting off them.

I obviously could be wrong, I wasnt in the mind of the artist when they created that picture, but it looks strikingly like the new Arasai. Maybe someone in Development could shed some light? The picture makes me rather curious.

Themaginator · 06-09-2007, 04:52 AM

~Wika~ wrote:

You need to look closer, since when do dark elves have bug eyes and slightly curled ears, that look like Arasai/Fae ears?
It is a head shot, and dark elves have eyes with pupils, not big shiny bug eyes like the art shows in that book. If you note the dark elven art on the page, they all have normal eyes. The concept in the right corner or so, has big purple bug eyes, with light glinting off them.
I obviously could be wrong, I wasnt in the mind of the artist when they created that picture, but it looks strikingly like the new Arasai. Maybe someone in Development could shed some light? The picture makes me rather curious.

aye only the artist knows, but yeah its definitely just random concept art for Dark Elves they changed the races alot throughout development, heck look at the Gnolls and the Ratonga, and also its the "Dark Elf" race page =P but anyway back on topic lol

Draknishar · 06-09-2007, 05:59 AM

just to ignore the call for on topic material I want to agree with the art book statement, first thing I thought went I heard about the arsai was that picture in the art book but I cant agree that the arsai lives up to this, theres not enough of a demon look to them in my mind but hey you cant have everything SMILEY

littleman17 · 06-09-2007, 08:27 AM

All and all, I liked this new content when I can play it. Neriak was a great choice because to be honest, without making an entirely new continent for free, there was no other evil city for the devs to pick from. And I doubt they wanted to make all the people yurning for a new evil to wait until RoK came out with the slim possibility that Sebilis would be a starting city somewhere down the raod. (I think it will end up being a dungeon)

The Arasai are a bit lame... I mean come on, evil Fae? I suppose it is no worse than Dark Eleves and Wood Elves (even though DE are derived from High Elves) looking very much alike. Heck, they even share a hairstyle (The only non-gaudy looking one for DE).

But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze.

All spells and CA cannot be used, nor can thr broker. If you switch a piece of equipment, it shows up as having been changed in your inventory, but not visually. If you zone or try to log out, or even using /exit, your pc completely and utterly locks up. The only way out of this is to hit the restart button on the front of your pc... which is rather bad for the health of your system. Many of us have made threads about this issue in the tech help forum only to be ignored by the devs who have not even sent out a "Oops, we messed up and are working to fix it" message leaving us guessing as to what is wrong.

I personally have done eveything short of replacing my video card (I even cleaned out the inside of my pc thoroughly) to fix this problem... no go. I rolled back my drivers... downloaded SOE's suggested driver, and even updated to the latest driver. Nothing seems to be working. My pc is also clean because I just removed the only bug it had several days ago. I am using the same exact system I have always used that has always worked from the launch of the game. So before anyone asks about that, no, I haven't changed anything.

So please Devs, stop ignoring us and let us know what is going on!

Themaginator · 06-09-2007, 02:53 PM

Draknishar wrote:

just to ignore the call for on topic material I want to agree with the art book statement, first thing I thought went I heard about the arsai was that picture in the art book but I cant agree that the arsai lives up to this, theres not enough of a demon look to them in my mind but hey you cant have everything

bah you guys are wrong lol but it doesnt matter in the end, Arasai are what they are now and Dark Elves are what they are now, even though the used to have those crazy dark eyes.

ke'la · 06-11-2007, 04:39 AM

littleman17 wrote:

All and all, I liked this new content when I can play it. Neriak was a great choice because to be honest, without making an entirely new continent for free, there was no other evil city for the devs to pick from. And I doubt they wanted to make all the people yurning for a new evil to wait until RoK came out with the slim possibility that Sebilis would be a starting city somewhere down the raod. (I think it will end up being a dungeon)
The Arasai are a bit lame... I mean come on, evil Fae? I suppose it is no worse than Dark Eleves and Wood Elves (even though DE are derived from High Elves) looking very much alike. Heck, they even share a hairstyle (The only non-gaudy looking one for DE).
But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze.
All spells and CA cannot be used, nor can thr broker. If you switch a piece of equipment, it shows up as having been changed in your inventory, but not visually. If you zone or try to log out, or even using /exit, your pc completely and utterly locks up. The only way out of this is to hit the restart button on the front of your pc... which is rather bad for the health of your system. Many of us have made threads about this issue in the tech help forum only to be ignored by the devs who have not even sent out a "Oops, we messed up and are working to fix it" message leaving us guessing as to what is wrong.
I personally have done eveything short of replacing my video card (I even cleaned out the inside of my pc thoroughly) to fix this problem... no go. I rolled back my drivers... downloaded SOE's suggested driver, and even updated to the latest driver. Nothing seems to be working. My pc is also clean because I just removed the only bug it had several days ago. I am using the same exact system I have always used that has always worked from the launch of the game. So before anyone asks about that, no, I haven't changed anything.
So please Devs, stop ignoring us and let us know what is going on!

That is a serious issue, it almost sounds like you lost contact with the Game Server(Chat is on a Differant Server) and you client Crashes when you /exit because it can't disconnect from the game server. Did you try going into windowed mode befor /exit(ing) I ask because for some reason when EQ2 crashes in Fullscreen the "Program XXX has and error and needs to shutdown" box pops up Behind the game screen(while staying in Full Screen) and once that box is up you can't alt+enter out of fullscreen. Also you said you can chat... Can you /bug while its happening? if you can /buging it while it's happening could give them some useful info...if not that then maybe /pationing it, to flag the time it happened, then bug it with the pation number once your back in game.

Umigo · 06-11-2007, 11:04 AM

Question to any Arasai using the Unseelie form, are you actually getting a 5% increase in speed? I know the Persona window indicates there is a 5% increase when using Unseelie form, but i have noticed the about a 5% decrease in speed. I have tested it while running, engaging Unseelie form(i slow down), cancel Unseelie from( i speed up). Is this bugged or is it just me.

Finora · 06-11-2007, 12:22 PM

I get the same feeling of slowing down when my fae uses the um...whatever their +5% form is (brain not functioning this morning sorry). I haven't played my Arasai lately to see if there is a difference.

It 'might' just be a visual thing, since I know with the fae one your perspective shifts to a higher point and the taller you are the slower it feels you are moving.

LordofLies001 · 06-12-2007, 01:02 PM

littleman17 wrote:

But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze.

Funny, I just read this post and I have almost the same problem. My main is a Defiler and after 3 hours of being in the same zone EQ2 just freezes. I can't talk or do anything, it just locks up. Only way out is ctrl-alt-del. So I started replacing parts to see if some were faulty and now I have a completely new computer without any old parts...and it still feezes. I made a thread on the tech forums about a month ago, constantly updating it but i got zero reply SMILEY

. I'm not sure if this is a result of GU 35 but I know for sure it wasn't around before then. Ayur - 70 Defiler

Sydias · 06-23-2007, 02:22 PM

I have really enjoyed this update. The new zones are amazing looking and full of yummy quests.

The only bug I have found is with the Warlock spell Rift. It does not work properly with Freehand Sorcery and Catalyst. The bonus damage only affects the monster that you have targeted and nothing else in the area of effect.

06-08-2007, 08:17 PM	#93
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	~Wika~ wrote: For anyone complaining about the Arasai being a cut and paste I suggest looking at page 19 in "The Art of Everquest II" book. This book came with the orginal release of the game, in the collectors box. It shows concept art of the Arasai along with Dark Elves. I know not everyone has the collector's edition, but for those of you who do, take a peek. i agree with you that the Arasai are cool but i own that book and there is no Arasai concept art...thats all Dark Elf. no wings on anything nothing that remotely resembles the Arasai

06-09-2007, 04:52 AM	#95
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	~Wika~ wrote: You need to look closer, since when do dark elves have bug eyes and slightly curled ears, that look like Arasai/Fae ears? It is a head shot, and dark elves have eyes with pupils, not big shiny bug eyes like the art shows in that book. If you note the dark elven art on the page, they all have normal eyes. The concept in the right corner or so, has big purple bug eyes, with light glinting off them. I obviously could be wrong, I wasnt in the mind of the artist when they created that picture, but it looks strikingly like the new Arasai. Maybe someone in Development could shed some light? The picture makes me rather curious. aye only the artist knows, but yeah its definitely just random concept art for Dark Elves they changed the races alot throughout development, heck look at the Gnolls and the Ratonga, and also its the "Dark Elf" race page =P but anyway back on topic lol

06-09-2007, 05:59 AM	#96
Draknishar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 33	just to ignore the call for on topic material I want to agree with the art book statement, first thing I thought went I heard about the arsai was that picture in the art book but I cant agree that the arsai lives up to this, theres not enough of a demon look to them in my mind but hey you cant have everything __________________ Shaeli 74 Warden / 40 Weaponsmith, Splitpaw Draknishar 70 Assassin / 60 Alchemist, Splitpaw Decci 70 Necromancer / 23 Sage, Splitpaw Tsurai 56 Dirge / 9 Artisan, Splitpaw

06-09-2007, 08:27 AM	#97
littleman17 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 675	All and all, I liked this new content when I can play it. Neriak was a great choice because to be honest, without making an entirely new continent for free, there was no other evil city for the devs to pick from. And I doubt they wanted to make all the people yurning for a new evil to wait until RoK came out with the slim possibility that Sebilis would be a starting city somewhere down the raod. (I think it will end up being a dungeon) The Arasai are a bit lame... I mean come on, evil Fae? I suppose it is no worse than Dark Eleves and Wood Elves (even though DE are derived from High Elves) looking very much alike. Heck, they even share a hairstyle (The only non-gaudy looking one for DE). But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze. All spells and CA cannot be used, nor can thr broker. If you switch a piece of equipment, it shows up as having been changed in your inventory, but not visually. If you zone or try to log out, or even using /exit, your pc completely and utterly locks up. The only way out of this is to hit the restart button on the front of your pc... which is rather bad for the health of your system. Many of us have made threads about this issue in the tech help forum only to be ignored by the devs who have not even sent out a "Oops, we messed up and are working to fix it" message leaving us guessing as to what is wrong. I personally have done eveything short of replacing my video card (I even cleaned out the inside of my pc thoroughly) to fix this problem... no go. I rolled back my drivers... downloaded SOE's suggested driver, and even updated to the latest driver. Nothing seems to be working. My pc is also clean because I just removed the only bug it had several days ago. I am using the same exact system I have always used that has always worked from the launch of the game. So before anyone asks about that, no, I haven't changed anything. So please Devs, stop ignoring us and let us know what is going on! __________________ Faynar: Level 71 Ranger Daynar: Level 57 Bruiser Tulnar: Level 61 Necromancer Kulnar: Level 50 Templar Bronar: Level 43 Paladin Vronar: Level 40 Defiler Everfrost FTW!

06-09-2007, 02:53 PM	#98
Themaginator Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 833	Draknishar wrote: just to ignore the call for on topic material I want to agree with the art book statement, first thing I thought went I heard about the arsai was that picture in the art book but I cant agree that the arsai lives up to this, theres not enough of a demon look to them in my mind but hey you cant have everything bah you guys are wrong lol but it doesnt matter in the end, Arasai are what they are now and Dark Elves are what they are now, even though the used to have those crazy dark eyes.

06-07-2007, 11:27 AM	#91
Pilgrim Divine Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 137	Id like to draw attention to the fact that you have caused a great deal of annoyance with your stealth nerfing of the warlock spell Rift. in LU35 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=365464 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=364517 http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=365465 no notification, no discussion, no warning, nothing. thanks for your time

06-08-2007, 07:54 PM	#92
~Wik General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	For anyone complaining about the Arasai being a cut and paste I suggest looking at page 19 in "The Art of Everquest II" book. This book came with the orginal release of the game, in the collectors box. It shows concept art of the Arasai along with Dark Elves. I know not everyone has the collector's edition, but for those of you who do, take a peek.

06-09-2007, 02:30 AM	#94
~Wik General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	You need to look closer, since when do dark elves have bug eyes and slightly curled ears, that look like Arasai/Fae ears? It is a head shot, and dark elves have eyes with pupils, not big shiny bug eyes like the art shows in that book. If you note the dark elven art on the page, they all have normal eyes. The concept in the right corner or so, has big purple bug eyes, with light glinting off them. I obviously could be wrong, I wasnt in the mind of the artist when they created that picture, but it looks strikingly like the new Arasai. Maybe someone in Development could shed some light? The picture makes me rather curious.

06-11-2007, 04:39 AM	#99
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	littleman17 wrote: All and all, I liked this new content when I can play it. Neriak was a great choice because to be honest, without making an entirely new continent for free, there was no other evil city for the devs to pick from. And I doubt they wanted to make all the people yurning for a new evil to wait until RoK came out with the slim possibility that Sebilis would be a starting city somewhere down the raod. (I think it will end up being a dungeon) The Arasai are a bit lame... I mean come on, evil Fae? I suppose it is no worse than Dark Eleves and Wood Elves (even though DE are derived from High Elves) looking very much alike. Heck, they even share a hairstyle (The only non-gaudy looking one for DE). But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze. All spells and CA cannot be used, nor can thr broker. If you switch a piece of equipment, it shows up as having been changed in your inventory, but not visually. If you zone or try to log out, or even using /exit, your pc completely and utterly locks up. The only way out of this is to hit the restart button on the front of your pc... which is rather bad for the health of your system. Many of us have made threads about this issue in the tech help forum only to be ignored by the devs who have not even sent out a "Oops, we messed up and are working to fix it" message leaving us guessing as to what is wrong. I personally have done eveything short of replacing my video card (I even cleaned out the inside of my pc thoroughly) to fix this problem... no go. I rolled back my drivers... downloaded SOE's suggested driver, and even updated to the latest driver. Nothing seems to be working. My pc is also clean because I just removed the only bug it had several days ago. I am using the same exact system I have always used that has always worked from the launch of the game. So before anyone asks about that, no, I haven't changed anything. So please Devs, stop ignoring us and let us know what is going on! That is a serious issue, it almost sounds like you lost contact with the Game Server(Chat is on a Differant Server) and you client Crashes when you /exit because it can't disconnect from the game server. Did you try going into windowed mode befor /exit(ing) I ask because for some reason when EQ2 crashes in Fullscreen the "Program XXX has and error and needs to shutdown" box pops up Behind the game screen(while staying in Full Screen) and once that box is up you can't alt+enter out of fullscreen. Also you said you can chat... Can you /bug while its happening? if you can /buging it while it's happening could give them some useful info...if not that then maybe /pationing it, to flag the time it happened, then bug it with the pation number once your back in game. __________________

06-11-2007, 11:04 AM	#100
Umigo Server: Blackburrow Guild: Guardians of the Light Rank: Alt-Members Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Fontana California Posts: 101	Question to any Arasai using the Unseelie form, are you actually getting a 5% increase in speed? I know the Persona window indicates there is a 5% increase when using Unseelie form, but i have noticed the about a 5% decrease in speed. I have tested it while running, engaging Unseelie form(i slow down), cancel Unseelie from( i speed up). Is this bugged or is it just me. __________________

06-11-2007, 12:22 PM	#101
Finora Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,423	I get the same feeling of slowing down when my fae uses the um...whatever their +5% form is (brain not functioning this morning sorry). I haven't played my Arasai lately to see if there is a difference. It 'might' just be a visual thing, since I know with the fae one your perspective shifts to a higher point and the taller you are the slower it feels you are moving. __________________ Lady Finora Mystic of Prism Everfrost(Grobb) Finora of Valiant Knights Test Server

06-12-2007, 01:02 PM	#102
LordofLies001 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20	littleman17 wrote: But the bigger issue is the bug that was introduced as a result of GU 35... it only happens to a select few (I have the feeling that we all use the same something) but it is game breaking. So far, on five out of my seven characters (I am in the process of testing my Defiler), including my main, The game will just... freeze. Oh, I can still talk to everyone and move around, but that is it. The sound starts repeating its self at the last sound bite sent... doors don't open (I can still walk through them as though they did), npc's don't show up if they weren't already around at the time of the freeze. Funny, I just read this post and I have almost the same problem. My main is a Defiler and after 3 hours of being in the same zone EQ2 just freezes. I can't talk or do anything, it just locks up. Only way out is ctrl-alt-del. So I started replacing parts to see if some were faulty and now I have a completely new computer without any old parts...and it still feezes. I made a thread on the tech forums about a month ago, constantly updating it but i got zero reply . I'm not sure if this is a result of GU 35 but I know for sure it wasn't around before then. Ayur - 70 Defiler

06-23-2007, 02:22 PM	#103
Sydias Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 218	I have really enjoyed this update. The new zones are amazing looking and full of yummy quests. The only bug I have found is with the Warlock spell Rift. It does not work properly with Freehand Sorcery and Catalyst. The bonus damage only affects the monster that you have targeted and nothing else in the area of effect. __________________ Dukou Tyranus - Lvl 70 Half-elf Dirge (Antonia Bayle) Nukor - Lvl 70 Dark Elf Warlock (Antonia Bayle) Fuzzles Fuzzikins - Lvl 52 Fae Paladin (Antonia Bayle) Durge - Lvl 70 Iksar Coercer (Antonia Bayle) Xizor - Lvl 67 Dark Elf Brigand(Antonia Bayle)