AoD suddenly includes DoV, even thou they said it wouldnt?!? - Page 3

Raknid · 12-16-2011, 09:38 PM

Seann@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Zepor wrote:
Haciv wrote:
SmokeJumper wrote:
We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.
If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.
The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.
If AoD has no association with DoV, does that mean the BL epic will not require DoV content to start or complete. The BL epic is the most important quest of that class, which is an AoD exclusive.
"Oops, I guess we didn't think this one through guys..."
I am willing to wager money that the BL epic will require DoV, and SJ will come up with a runaround statement explaining why he was really not lying along, while players shake their head at his deceptive practices once again.
Welcome to EQ2!
just because you have the class doesnt mean you are entitled to everything that class can use. its already pretty well known that there is new mobs and such in the DoV zones that werent there prior to AoD and are likely used for the BL epic.

Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV?

SOE-MOD-07 · 12-16-2011, 09:40 PM

Please be sure that when posting that you are respectful and constructive. Thanks all!

Luterin · 12-16-2011, 10:01 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage.
So this is resolved now.

Thanks! It good to know that money is more important to you than everything else. Always good to know your intentions.

As if anyone doubted it...

Miapa · 12-16-2011, 10:12 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:
This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue.
Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage.
So this is resolved now.

Wow, what motivation to fix this! Fixing near game-breaking bugs takes months. Thanks.

Haciv · 12-16-2011, 10:26 PM

SmokeJumper wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:
This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue.
Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage.
So this is resolved now.

Cool, so when can we expect all the other bugs to fixed? Ya know, the bugs that matter to the actual players.

kpike669 · 12-16-2011, 10:42 PM

Haciv wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:
SmokeJumper wrote:
This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue.
Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage.
So this is resolved now.
Cool, so when can we expect all the other bugs to fixed? Ya know, the bugs that matter to the actual players.

but that would be inconceivable!

Isulith · 12-16-2011, 10:42 PM

I need to remind players to keep posts respectful and constructive. Otherwise, we will have to close threads down and worse. Thank you!

Eyema · 12-16-2011, 10:56 PM

Raknid wrote:

Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV?

People that think BL epic shouldnt include current content need to really re-evaluate the facts. Its been stated many many times that BLs are not like any other class. If you played one for 5 minutes you can see that for yourself. Also, ALL other epics included content from the expansion they were introduced in. It has already been said that the BL epic is level 90, NOT 80, so its already not the same as any other class epic. Having the class just introduced now, it would be even worse if they made the epic level 80 when current cap is 90. Get off your high horses and try thinking things out for once.

Pink_Poodle · 12-16-2011, 10:57 PM

I still think AOD should have always included the rest of the expansions. It's been like that for a while, and it wouldn't cause this problem.

A refund should be considered as well, to be honest.

I'd much rather the devs focus on fixing bugs that have been plaguing the game for months, long before AOD. It would bring about much more positive feedback anyway.

ObsidianNightmare · 12-16-2011, 11:51 PM

Eyema@Befallen wrote:

Raknid wrote:
Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV?
People that think BL epic shouldnt include current content need to really re-evaluate the facts. Its been stated many many times that BLs are not like any other class. If you played one for 5 minutes you can see that for yourself. Also, ALL other epics included content from the expansion they were introduced in. It has already been said that the BL epic is level 90, NOT 80, so its already not the same as any other class epic. Having the class just introduced now, it would be even worse if they made the epic level 80 when current cap is 90. Get off your high horses and try thinking things out for once.

Think about what you're saying tho.

The epic isn't even the problem here tho. If you want to actually progress in DoV content with your BL, you must purcase DoV, Epic or no. They did lower the price for it. But it's understandable that people can get up in arms over 60 USD. Its also more if you end up being a F2P player and have to buy unlocks. By playing a beastlord, SoE is making sure you put your money into the game one way or the other.

So in this respect you are correct in saying that a Beastlord plays like no other class... No other class requires that amount of money to progress with their peers in Norrath.

Iad · 12-16-2011, 11:53 PM

Triple Station Cash tomorrow. now we can all be happy. =p

Tallithia · 12-17-2011, 12:12 AM

Luterin wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:
Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage.
So this is resolved now.
Thanks! It good to know that money is more important to you than everything else. Always good to know your intentions.
As if anyone doubted it...

Money is the driving force of for profit businesses. That drive for money makes my gaming experience better.

You want the non-money driven game? There are pretty much free to play games all over the net.

What? you don't want to play them?

why? cause they are no fun, have little content and or rewards?

Exactly.

sundrop · 12-17-2011, 12:30 AM

Thanks to the OP and to SJ. This post has been forever archived to show future customer's what kind of staff SOE has employeed.

SOE obviously did not even know about this "bug" until it was brought up on the forum. Then, it became such a huge issue it was not worth waiting on a hotfix. Game breaking bugs? Not so important. Free Content? Holly World End epic patch fix now overtime

Raknid · 12-17-2011, 12:43 AM

SmokeJumper wrote:

The Age of Discovery expansion...has no association with DoV whatsoever.

Zepor · 12-17-2011, 03:11 AM

Phew, problem solved! Let's just lock this thread and move on, and forget about all the lies told to us along the way. Then when someone brings up another Smokey lie in the future we'll all just pretend we weren't expecting it.

Elomort · 12-17-2011, 03:56 AM

Luterin wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no double SC weekend this X-mas... And you can quote me on this...

You were right. We are getting triple SC.

Felshades · 12-17-2011, 04:02 AM

Rebaleo@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Lol. You can't call AoD an expansion pack if it's not all in one like all the previous expacs. Cheap $OE. You make the smallest "expansion pack" possible, set it at full price, and make it the first expansion pack to not be all-inclusive. You guys are pretty pathetic, and I feel bad for people who buy into it.

EQ and EQ2 are the ONLY games I have EVER purchased and played, MMO or not(And I've played a LOT of both) to have done all in one packs for prior expansions.

I actually liked it, because it was not the norm.

Blizzard, for the longest time now, had you paying 30 bucks each for classic wow, bc, and then wrath of the lich king. Each had to be bought separately. Cataclysm changed that with the former getting discounted, but they still dont have the all in one idea yet.

So yeah, plenty of companies have been calling them "expansion packs" and not include the original content.

12-16-2011, 09:38 PM	#61
Raknid Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,421	Seann@Antonia Bayle wrote: Zepor wrote: Haciv wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content. If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP. The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever. If AoD has no association with DoV, does that mean the BL epic will not require DoV content to start or complete. The BL epic is the most important quest of that class, which is an AoD exclusive. "Oops, I guess we didn't think this one through guys..." I am willing to wager money that the BL epic will require DoV, and SJ will come up with a runaround statement explaining why he was really not lying along, while players shake their head at his deceptive practices once again. Welcome to EQ2! just because you have the class doesnt mean you are entitled to everything that class can use. its already pretty well known that there is new mobs and such in the DoV zones that werent there prior to AoD and are likely used for the BL epic. Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV?

12-16-2011, 10:01 PM	#63
Luterin Lord Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 86	SmokeJumper wrote: Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage. So this is resolved now. Thanks! It good to know that money is more important to you than everything else. Always good to know your intentions. As if anyone doubted it...

12-16-2011, 10:12 PM	#64
Miapa Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 281	SmokeJumper wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue. Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage. So this is resolved now. Wow, what motivation to fix this! Fixing near game-breaking bugs takes months. Thanks.

12-16-2011, 10:26 PM	#65
Haciv Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 278	SmokeJumper wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue. Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage. So this is resolved now. Cool, so when can we expect all the other bugs to fixed? Ya know, the bugs that matter to the actual players. __________________

12-16-2011, 10:42 PM	#66
kpike669 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6	Haciv wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: This bug will stay in place until the hotfix next Tuesday. At that point, it will be resolved and no longer be an issue. Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage. So this is resolved now. Cool, so when can we expect all the other bugs to fixed? Ya know, the bugs that matter to the actual players. but that would be inconceivable!

12-16-2011, 09:40 PM	#62
SOE-MOD-07 Community Moderator Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 109	Please be sure that when posting that you are respectful and constructive. Thanks all!

12-16-2011, 10:42 PM	#67
Isulith Community Relations Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391	I need to remind players to keep posts respectful and constructive. Otherwise, we will have to close threads down and worse. Thank you!

12-16-2011, 10:56 PM	#68
Eyema Server: Befallen Guild: Shadowed Strife Rank: Shadowed Strife Leaders Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 159	Raknid wrote: Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV? People that think BL epic shouldnt include current content need to really re-evaluate the facts. Its been stated many many times that BLs are not like any other class. If you played one for 5 minutes you can see that for yourself. Also, ALL other epics included content from the expansion they were introduced in. It has already been said that the BL epic is level 90, NOT 80, so its already not the same as any other class epic. Having the class just introduced now, it would be even worse if they made the epic level 80 when current cap is 90. Get off your high horses and try thinking things out for once.

12-16-2011, 10:57 PM	#69
Pink_Poodle Shrine Maiden Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hakurei Shrine Posts: 168	I still think AOD should have always included the rest of the expansions. It's been like that for a while, and it wouldn't cause this problem. A refund should be considered as well, to be honest. I'd much rather the devs focus on fixing bugs that have been plaguing the game for months, long before AOD. It would bring about much more positive feedback anyway. __________________

12-16-2011, 11:51 PM	#70
ObsidianNightmare Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 155	Eyema@Befallen wrote: Raknid wrote: Do any of the other classes quests require DoV? Why should Beastlord unless they are intentionally doing it as a roadblock so that people would be required to buy DoV? People that think BL epic shouldnt include current content need to really re-evaluate the facts. Its been stated many many times that BLs are not like any other class. If you played one for 5 minutes you can see that for yourself. Also, ALL other epics included content from the expansion they were introduced in. It has already been said that the BL epic is level 90, NOT 80, so its already not the same as any other class epic. Having the class just introduced now, it would be even worse if they made the epic level 80 when current cap is 90. Get off your high horses and try thinking things out for once. Think about what you're saying tho. The epic isn't even the problem here tho. If you want to actually progress in DoV content with your BL, you must purcase DoV, Epic or no. They did lower the price for it. But it's understandable that people can get up in arms over 60 USD. Its also more if you end up being a F2P player and have to buy unlocks. By playing a beastlord, SoE is making sure you put your money into the game one way or the other. So in this respect you are correct in saying that a Beastlord plays like no other class... No other class requires that amount of money to progress with their peers in Norrath.

12-16-2011, 11:53 PM	#71
Iad Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 250	Triple Station Cash tomorrow. now we can all be happy. =p

12-17-2011, 12:12 AM	#72
Tallithia Lord Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 772	Luterin wrote: SmokeJumper wrote: Well, we got it done faster than expected and it was easy to push out the fix without an outage. So this is resolved now. Thanks! It good to know that money is more important to you than everything else. Always good to know your intentions. As if anyone doubted it... Money is the driving force of for profit businesses. That drive for money makes my gaming experience better. You want the non-money driven game? There are pretty much free to play games all over the net. What? you don't want to play them? why? cause they are no fun, have little content and or rewards? Exactly. __________________ Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Few are entitled to the facts. Be Careful what you ask for. You may get what you want but at what cost?

12-17-2011, 12:30 AM	#73
sundrop Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 128	Thanks to the OP and to SJ. This post has been forever archived to show future customer's what kind of staff SOE has employeed. SOE obviously did not even know about this "bug" until it was brought up on the forum. Then, it became such a huge issue it was not worth waiting on a hotfix. Game breaking bugs? Not so important. Free Content? Holly World End epic patch fix now overtime

12-17-2011, 12:43 AM	#74
Raknid Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,421	SmokeJumper wrote: The Age of Discovery expansion...has no association with DoV whatsoever.

12-17-2011, 03:11 AM	#75
Zepor Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 58	Phew, problem solved! Let's just lock this thread and move on, and forget about all the lies told to us along the way. Then when someone brings up another Smokey lie in the future we'll all just pretend we weren't expecting it. __________________ Smokejumper: "The monthly subscription fee means players can expect a lot of new content from us. And I say a lot - I really mean that. This is something that we feel obligated to the players, because they are paying monthly sub fee."

12-17-2011, 03:56 AM	#76
Elomort Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 851	Luterin wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if there is no double SC weekend this X-mas... And you can quote me on this... You were right. We are getting triple SC. __________________ â˜¸ ÄryÄá¹£á¹*Äá¹…gamÄrga Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared.

12-17-2011, 04:02 AM	#77
Felshades Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,887	Rebaleo@Antonia Bayle wrote: Lol. You can't call AoD an expansion pack if it's not all in one like all the previous expacs. Cheap $OE. You make the smallest "expansion pack" possible, set it at full price, and make it the first expansion pack to not be all-inclusive. You guys are pretty pathetic, and I feel bad for people who buy into it. EQ and EQ2 are the ONLY games I have EVER purchased and played, MMO or not(And I've played a LOT of both) to have done all in one packs for prior expansions. I actually liked it, because it was not the norm. Blizzard, for the longest time now, had you paying 30 bucks each for classic wow, bc, and then wrath of the lich king. Each had to be bought separately. Cataclysm changed that with the former getting discounted, but they still dont have the all in one idea yet. So yeah, plenty of companies have been calling them "expansion packs" and not include the original content.