ZAM Launches New EQII Site

[Alienor]

I wonder if the localised servers are really missed at all (or if the English broker information would be helpful for them). RE and Splitpaw are different as they are running the same content in the same language as the US servers but are populated more by folks living in GMT

[Thunderthyze]

Friday, and still no sign of the non US server brokers. Just be honest with us you guys, you have no intention of causing waves with SOE to try and get this sorted have you? Either that or you've been told it ain't going to happen and you haven't got the balls to come right out and tell us. Honesty that's all we want.

[Spyderbite]

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

Honesty that's all we want.

And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know.

[Noaani]

And what about all the missing/incorrect data?

[Kordran]

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.

I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!

[Calthine]

Noaani wrote:

And what about all the missing/incorrect data?

We're working with SOE on that.

[Calthine]

Kordran wrote:

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.

I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!

*nod*  There's been resources that have drops for a while, like lootdb and eq2llinks.  This data just comes straight from the game.

[Noaani]

Calthine wrote:

Noaani wrote:

And what about all the missing/incorrect data?

We're working with SOE on that.

This is good to hear, hopefully it gets resolved soon.

[Yimway]

Against my better judgement I took a look at the data on Zam.

Was there a concious effort to not include useful data?   Sure looks like it.

Why can I not search by effect?

The information displayed has no apparent value.

[Thunderthyze]

Kordran wrote:

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

In time I think that publishing the loot database may well turn out to be a very bad thing for the game as people begin to camp certain mobs and totally ignore entire zones.

I presume that you've never heard of lootdb.com? Welcome to the intarwebs!

lootdb.com doesn't have access to actual drop rates

[Kordran]

Actually, I believe that lootdb.com does have drop rates, but it's only available to registered players. How close those values are to the "actual" drop rates, can't really say but it would certainly be enough to give players an idea as long as the sample is large enough.

[Calthine]

Kordran wrote:

Actually, I believe that lootdb.com does have drop rates, but it's only available to registered players. How close those values are to the "actual" drop rates, can't really say but it would certainly be enough to give players an idea as long as the sample is large enough.

THose are drop rates as reported by players.  The difference here is our are right out of the game data.

[Calthine]

Atan@Unrest wrote:

Why can I not search by effect?

Hey, good question!  Let's see if we can do anything about that.

[Thunderthyze]

Two weeks in and still no sign of support for EU broker data. All we get from Calthine and Spyder is "we've submitted a ticket". Well I would have expected a trading partner to have had a little more of a direct line into SOE than CS tickets. There has always been this tendency by SOE to treat the non US servers as the red headed step children of the game, no access to competitions, game updates (at least) 24 hours after US servers, server maintenance at peak times, etc, etc, while still charging exactly the same subscription. Their sublime arrogance then extends into an attitude of "don't dare criticise us over this". Seems like this attitude is now spreading to Zam.

No I am not subscribed to the Zam network, but you know what? Neither am I ever likely to be until the game servers I play on are treated with equality.

[Calthine]

Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it."  Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there   I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information.   Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. 

I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now.  No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.

[Thunderthyze]

Calthine wrote:

Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it."  Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there   I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information.   Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. 

I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now.  No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.

Sorry, but I can only react to posts I read posted by your colleagues:

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:

And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know.

Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?

[Spyderbite]

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?

I apologize for that miscommunicaton. I am not part of the ticketing process so when I was told it was being worked on, I assumed it was something that required a ticket.

But, the same applies.. it is being worked on and everyone will be notified with any new info that we receive.

[Valsehna]

I like the way it looks.  It feels much easier on my tired eyes.

There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.

Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?

I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.

[Calthine]

Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:

Calthine wrote:

Actually, the answer on broker issues is "We're working with SOE on it."  Don't need a ticket on it, we know it's not there   I did enquire today, and I don't have any new information.   Enhancements and bugs, those get tickets. 

I can tell you our broker system is getting it's own server, a work in progress right now.  No, that doesn't do a thing for missing EU data, I know.

Sorry, but I can only react to posts I read posted by your colleagues:

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:

And, that's exactly what you're getting. Ticket has been submitted and we are waiting to hear back regarding an ETA. As soon as we know.. we'll let you know.

Can I ask whether or not you're confident of getting this data made available? Or are there issues that may make this data impossible to publish?

First, we're just the messengers.  Spyder gets his info from me; we had a bad communication, for which I appologize.

To address your last question:  we can't publish it because we don't have it.  But posted today on our EQ2 Zam forums, by Illia, our Director of Technology (and yes, that's Illia of Illia's Everquest Bestiary):

Broker data is upto date again,

We're waiting on soe for non-NA servers.

[Calthine]

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I like the way it looks.  It feels much easier on my tired eyes.

There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.

Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?

I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.

I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.

Edit:  what browser are you using?

[Valsehna]

Calthine wrote:

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I like the way it looks.  It feels much easier on my tired eyes.

There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.

Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?

I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.

I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.

Edit:  what browser are you using?

That would be great.  I just use IE.

[Calthine]

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Calthine wrote:

Valsehna@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I like the way it looks.  It feels much easier on my tired eyes.

There is one aspect that I find uncomfortable, and real irritating though.

Why is page up, page down, home, end, up arrow, down arrow disabled?

I dislike having to constantly grab at the scrollbar.

I will put a ticket in on that and see if we can enhance your site-browsing experience.

Edit:  what browser are you using?

That would be great.  I just use IE.

Which version?

[Valsehna]

IE7 currently.  Thanks for the efforts!

[Thunderthyze]

Thursday. Stopped holding my breath for the EU server support. Oh well, back to Wikia.

[feldon30]

Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!

[Giral]

i like the free 10 day WOW trial on the side of the page /nice touch that

[Calthine]

Giralus wrote:

i like the free 10 day WOW trial on the side of the page /nice touch that

I ROFL'd

[Noaani]

feldon30 wrote:

Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!

While it doesn't have these things, what Wikia does have is the ability for me to correct any information I see as incorrect.

Spending a few hours on Zam since it launched, I have seen several mob loot tables that are outright incorrect, mobs that are in the wrong place, mobs that are missing all together and broker info that was never accurate.

While Wikia has incorrect information on it, I am able to correct it when I see it. With the SoE submitted data, even though it has glaring mistakes, I am unable to do anything about it.

Even if for no other reason than this, Wikia is currently winning imo. When Zam gets complete and accurate info it will be amazing, but that is not currently the case.

[Calthine]

Noaani wrote:

When Zam gets complete and accurate info it will be amazing, but that is not currently the case.

Workin' on it!

[hellfire]

feldon30 wrote:

Wikia has real-time broker and drop rate stats? Who knew!

Nothing real time about the broker info.

Id say eq2 players is more up to date [Removed for Content].....and we all know how much of a failure  eq2players is