Melee dps vs spell dps - Page 2

Rast · 01-09-2007, 11:44 PM

Anariale wrote:
Btw, I checked the other night. On a full HoS run, I was like 61% melee, 39% Spell.
I was in Defensive stance with a Sword and Shield for the full raid.

STA - 4 4 8
Wis - 4 4 8
Int - 5 4 8

21 Hero
5 Rightousness
5 Righteous Conviction
3 Brimstone

100+ DPS Mod
23 Haste

Dont get me wrong, the Spell Crits add a ton of DPS, but we still do most of our damage based on Melee.

W

What is your thoughts on that setup Anariale? Is it much better than going

STR 4/4/5/8/8 - INT 4/4/8/4

Hero/Blocking mastery and grabbing the ward and ST heal while going down the support line?

I'm still real early in my lines (only have 37 AAs so far), but the above was what I was working down.

Anariale · 01-10-2007, 12:27 AM

I went defensive because I wanted to get a metric for Melee vs Spell damage. Next run Im prolly going O-stance with S/S.
I dont like going 2handed because the DPS really isnt that much of a gain, and you give up that massive block that Im lending to the MT. Not to mention in the off occasion the MT dies, or on a fight with too many mem-wipes, Ill end up pulling aggro and tanking for a bit. Its just a PITA to switch from 2H to s/s. Also, I can easily slip on a symbol for Legionnaire's without losing melee autoattack with my sword.

We run:
Guardian
Paladin
Templar
Defiler
Dirge
Coercer

As for if I like my AA setup or not... I never have had aggro problems, so hategain is a waste to me. I also think Haste is drastically overrated because of how CA's dictate your swing speed. However, +34 to skills is about a 10% increase in to-hit rate for everyone in your group. 10% increase in to-hit is a significant DPS increase. I just dont see the benefit of the Str line unless you go for the top tier AA, and then its just too [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] expensive.

In Defensive stance, Im around 600-800 DPS right now on a full raid. Next time we do an easy zone Ill let you know how I do going Offensive stance the full run.

Message Edited by Anariale on 01-09-2007 02:28 PM

Rast · 01-10-2007, 01:07 AM

thanks SMILEY

It was my intent to get the end line for STR to limit interupts, but if it is overrated, perhaps a respec is in order.

hawsecav19d · 01-10-2007, 03:41 AM

I went all the way down str line and have maxed my heals and wards and cel touch in eof and I can tell a major difference in how often I get interupted with ring of four winds my wards take about a sec and half now to cast and recast every 8 secs heals my single target heal hardly ever gets interupted unless taking on more than 3 mobs it casts to fast now. Plus 8 mins recast on our big heal is great in raids. I cast it 22 times other night to keep the OT and myself up I dont hesitate to use it like I used to.

01-09-2007, 11:44 PM	#31
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	Anariale wrote: Btw, I checked the other night. On a full HoS run, I was like 61% melee, 39% Spell. I was in Defensive stance with a Sword and Shield for the full raid. STA - 4 4 8 Wis - 4 4 8 Int - 5 4 8 21 Hero 5 Rightousness 5 Righteous Conviction 3 Brimstone 100+ DPS Mod 23 Haste Dont get me wrong, the Spell Crits add a ton of DPS, but we still do most of our damage based on Melee. W What is your thoughts on that setup Anariale? Is it much better than going STR 4/4/5/8/8 - INT 4/4/8/4 Hero/Blocking mastery and grabbing the ward and ST heal while going down the support line? I'm still real early in my lines (only have 37 AAs so far), but the above was what I was working down. __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

01-10-2007, 12:27 AM	#32
Anariale Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 476	I went defensive because I wanted to get a metric for Melee vs Spell damage. Next run Im prolly going O-stance with S/S. I dont like going 2handed because the DPS really isnt that much of a gain, and you give up that massive block that Im lending to the MT. Not to mention in the off occasion the MT dies, or on a fight with too many mem-wipes, Ill end up pulling aggro and tanking for a bit. Its just a PITA to switch from 2H to s/s. Also, I can easily slip on a symbol for Legionnaire's without losing melee autoattack with my sword. We run: Guardian Paladin Templar Defiler Dirge Coercer As for if I like my AA setup or not... I never have had aggro problems, so hategain is a waste to me. I also think Haste is drastically overrated because of how CA's dictate your swing speed. However, +34 to skills is about a 10% increase in to-hit rate for everyone in your group. 10% increase in to-hit is a significant DPS increase. I just dont see the benefit of the Str line unless you go for the top tier AA, and then its just too [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] expensive. In Defensive stance, Im around 600-800 DPS right now on a full raid. Next time we do an easy zone Ill let you know how I do going Offensive stance the full run. Message Edited by Anariale on 01-09-2007 02:28 PM __________________ Wyrd, 80 Paladin - ex-Ghosts of War, Permafrost Darton, 70 Guardian (was stolen) Permafrost

01-10-2007, 01:07 AM	#33
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	thanks It was my intent to get the end line for STR to limit interupts, but if it is overrated, perhaps a respec is in order. __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

01-10-2007, 03:41 AM	#34
hawsecav19d Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 134	I went all the way down str line and have maxed my heals and wards and cel touch in eof and I can tell a major difference in how often I get interupted with ring of four winds my wards take about a sec and half now to cast and recast every 8 secs heals my single target heal hardly ever gets interupted unless taking on more than 3 mobs it casts to fast now. Plus 8 mins recast on our big heal is great in raids. I cast it 22 times other night to keep the OT and myself up I dont hesitate to use it like I used to.