Major FPS Issues since the update 49, Anyone else?

[tikasa]

   With 3 accounts running  72 FPS   with 1 account running 70 FPS    Showing no packet loss at all   ping is sub 200 on all 3   all 3 have Multi core disabled and shadows off.    Tried Multi core on same FPS.

   It is missing about 3 frames in a row about every 15 seconds.. .making the game look choppy.    As time goes by the choppiness runns closer together.....   My computer was formated last night due to trying to fix this myself, and the results are the same as the other 2 computers that were untouched.

Quad, dual, and single core machines, all single vid card 4850, all Vista

[rosie01]

I had the same issue.

 I did not read all of the responses in this thread.  I was on an Intel chipset video card which was conflicting with the game.

I bought a Nvidia GE Force 9500 with 1 gig of ram.  Ping low 100's FPS in the 30s.  My problem is solved.

Good luck to others.  I hope you find a way to fix it.  I was quite bummed that I couldn't play.

[Cassea]

jmmaurer wrote:

Cassea wrote:

inshiningarmor wrote:

And now the poster above me cannot even log on.   Now I have to figure out what she did to FIX the problem SOE created.   Thank you for making all 3 computers that ran EQ2 perfectly before the last LU run like Crp now.   and b4 I get some remark about my system... 1 is a quad  1 is a dual 1 is a Single core.   All are running at least 4gb  up to 32 BG of ram.    Thet WERE running just fine.   Now all I get is missing frames making the video look choppy.

I'm not going to give you crap but if you have three systems and all three suddenly do not work correctly yet the vasty majority of people have no issues at all... well it has to be something you installed causing the conflict. Something has to be common on all three machines. EQ2 runs better after the update on all of my machines and my guild so while I'm not saying that SOE did not do something I think it's wrong to automatically assume that it's not on your end.After all it's beyond the realm of reason that a very very small percentage of machines are having issues yet all three or yours are. I would guess it's some conflict with some program or driver you have installed on all three systems.

Cassea, you and Spyder should be paid by SoE,   No CSR ever has to tell people their system sucks, because you both beat them to it.    PLEASE at LEAST let SOE tell us our systems suck or it is all our fault.    People like you are the reason that people that do have problems do not bother posting.

I never said their system sucks. I have, in the past, pointed out when people are trying to run EQ2 with hardware that is "not" supposed to run it but in this case the poster stated that all of a sudden three (3) totally separate computers they owned all stopped playing at the same time.Clearly SOE did something but this change did not affect everyone... in fact very few people were affected so when you look at three system owned by the same person this usually means that they installed something common on all three systems (virus protection, background programs, same drivers etc...) that could be the issue.SOE is not perfect and I am not a SOE fanboy as I can be very hard on them (look at some of my posts LOL) but posts like "you did something so fix it" does nothing to help.Something has to be common to all three systems. I run EQ2 on mutliple systems from 2x cores with kickass video cards to lowely single core 1800mhz machines with a lowly $25 video card and they all run EQ2 just fine. My guild is not having issues and while I do not proclaim that just because I am not having issues or anyone I know is having issues that there is not a problem... when 3 computers in the same house all stop working at the same time... well something is common between the systems.EQ2 does not take much of a system to run well... it does, however, take a beast of a system to run great. IMHO people often think that just because EQ2 is old and that other games run much better that they can automatically crank things up in EQ2. We all know this not to be true.I really how the answer is found. I suspect that the deep rooted answer is something people will not want to hear.... SOE is bringing EQ2 up to the modern era and those who have been playing on old, out of date machines, will be unhappy to learn that their machines that ran EQ2 just fine 5+ years ago will no longer work the same.We beat SOE over the head (myself included!) and beg them to update the game. When they take the time, $$$ and effort to do so then we have people saying to keep the game the way it was.Sure there will be teething pains. Adding multi-core support to a game never designed for it is no small task but in the end we'll all be better off for it.So let's deal with the construction knowing that in the end EQ2 will be a better game for us all.

[tikasa]

3   You are blind and dumb.   more peeps have posted and VERY few actually go to the forums.    Tired of know it alls saying it is all our fault and we are the only ones...   By the mods own posts they estimate less then 10% go to the forums ... less to this section as most time it only gets frustrating because of armchair CSR's

[Cassea]

tikasa wrote:

3   You are blind and dumb.   more peeps have posted and VERY few actually go to the forums.    Tired of know it alls saying it is all our fault and we are the only ones...   By the mods own posts they estimate less then 10% go to the forums ... less to this section as most time it only gets frustrating because of armchair CSR's

Any particular reason you have to personally attack me? I'm not stupid and I know that those who visit the forums are just a small sample of actual players. I also only see a small handfull of people saying they are having these issues out of the hundreds or more who visit here each day.What have "you" done to try and track down this issue aside from coming here and attacking me? BTW I never said it was all your fault but I guess it's easier these days to just sit back and pass blame to others.Could SOE have changed something that affected "some" setups? Of course but this does not automatically mean that it's SOE's fault. Perhaps they changed something that exposed a flaw or issue in a driver in your system. Perhaps you have some unique combination of hardware/software that is affected by this.The number of driver/hardware/software combinations on PC's are staggering. I don't seem to recall seeing your system specs posted. If you have then I much have missed it. Coming here and have a tantrum because your game does not play the way you want and then attacking others who are either trying to help or expressing an opinion that differs from your own is just juvenille.I'll stop here because this is accomplishing nothing and all we'll get is a forum ban if we go back and forth like this.

[tikasa]

Honestly I do not care if I get banned or not.    Settings ultra high or ultra low  same results... Game is unplayable right now.   BF already canceled all 5 TSO's

We were running 3 at a time on 2nd to highest settings with FPS 60+   now we cannot get 1 on lowest to play decently.   

I am sorry that I started attacking you, but more often then not ANY person who posts a problem in these forums get the same canned responce...   It is your fault not Our's/SoE's.   

FYI   beta is not affected by this.   I have all 3 accounts logged in on Beta on top settings...  lag in Moors right now  ( high population ) but no choppiness at all.   Something that is on live but not Beta right now.

[Kaco2]

My crappy laptop has gotten better performance since GU49, but then again I always make sure my drivers are as up-to-date as possible and make sure windows is too. Only problems I have with lag are due to ISP problems and rarley my laptop or eq2 related

[FlowerFist]

I am having very low FPS... like 3-4 low. I log in with about 50ish, then drop to under 10 within 30 secs. (on extreme performance settings!) 2g, single core, 32bit vista, nvidia 7300... nothing fancy but I have never had a probelm like this (other than qeynos harbor etc) This only started a few days ago. I have made sure all drivers/updates were current, virus scan adware etc... I tried installing my original graphics card drivers like someone suggested w/ no change.

[Chiyoiche]

their not the only ones either....i have Vista, dual core, and since the last patch, sometimes my fps is improved, but then sometimes when i do much more, it drops.....horribly.....2-6 fps...it making it very difficult to even move. all my drivers are up to date, i normaly defrag, sys clean, ect. i have no virus, spywares or anything like that. i put the game on high performance...then very high...then sometimes i even have to go to extreem...to just be able to STAND in my own house, and not see everything skipping around. andi have to relog...alot just to refresh it, only to have to do it again in less than an hour at times.

its not justa few persons with this issue, its ALOT of us, and many do not come to the forums. they fixed the hall lag...great! but now everything else lags. and i dont have anything else in the background running. ive even tried disabling my firewall/anti irus to play. and still the lag. and specialy with the live events, its making it hard to enjoy them. this makes me sad...

[ganjookie]

  I do not think that a dev will respondto a /bug.  There are a few who read the forums here (not a TSR but  developer with a red name) that you may be able to PM your information and issue to though.

[Arwin]

Caliope@Kithicor wrote:

2g, single core, 32bit vista, nvidia 7300...

There's your problem.

2g - EQ2 runs best when it has at least 1.5 GB memory for the client. With Vista, antivirus, ect... running in the background you may be cutting EQ2 short of the ram it needs and your computer is using the hard drive's swap file for system ram, drastically slowing down your system.

Single core - You didn't mention which single core proc but it's a safe bet it's 2+ years old. There have been performance boosts in leaps and bounds since single core days. Look into an Intel Core 2 Duo system or upgrade. 2.8 Ghz or higher is good.

32 bit Vista /shudder...

Nvidia 7300 - This is a low end and often integrated graphics chip and probably the cause for the bulk of your fps problems. If this is a desktop pc I'd say look into upgrading your video card to at the very least a Radeon 3650 GDDR3 for $45 after mail in rebate. Higher end cards such as the 9800GT can be purchased as low as $100 after mail ins.

[meaogre]

My pc has also not been the same since the update.  I have gone as low as 16 fps when before the update I rarely went under 75.

Windows vista 64

E8400 3.0 ghz duel core

4 Gigs ram

Nvidia 280 Gtx

soundblaster 24 xternal sound

500 gig wd HD Sata 2 (pretty much empty got vista EQ2 on it and thats about it)

I can play anygame near or at max settings with very good fps but since this last update I have crashed BSOD (memory management error) The eq2 client has stopped responding error.. ran memory diagnostic program from microsoft for 6 hours no errors.  Have reinstalled vista reinstalled all drivers I crash a little less but I still crash.  Almost went as far as replacing all my ram im glad I didnt now that I see tons of people are having the same problem.

[Brinelan]

I had just reinstalled vista 64 which played great.  Using both the same as before and the new drivers nvidia released yesterday I was getting about 9 fps. 

I normally play in windowed mode, when i had it maximised the fps was horrible, when i minimised it but stretched it until it almost filled my screen it shot up to 40+ fps.  very strange. 

9800GTX

AMD 6400+ dual core

Vista 64

8gb ram

1680x1050 screen

*Edit*  I updated to the newest nov 2008 directx package from MS, and switched to fullscreen, and am getting int he 50's fps running around my guilds very decorated guild hall on Very High quality.  Nforce drivers are 15.23, and geforce drivers are 180.48.

[Xandis]

Chiyoiche@Antonia Bayle wrote:

"...then sometimes i even have to go to extreem...to just be able to STAND in my own house, and not see everything skipping around. andi have to relog...alot just to refresh it, only to have to do it again in less than an hour at times."

I experience this too.

This isn't a resolution, but a slight work-a-round that seems to work for me most of the time.

Instead of relogging, try putting EQ2 into windowed mode, and then back to full screen. (Alt+Enter)Sometimes this works, as a soft refresh, and clears up some of the stuttering and FPS loss for a short while that seems to accrue over playtime since GU49 (for myself, anyway).It might also be a telling of what the actual problem is, but I haven't figured it out yet.

Some of us seem to be experiencing these new issues, some no change, and some a performance increase, all about the same time. Interesing )

Quote:"I updated to the newest nov 2008 directx package from MS, and switched to fullscreen, and am getting int he 50's fps running around my guilds very decorated guild hall on Very High quality.  Nforce drivers are 15.23, and geforce drivers are 180.48." - I'll try this tonight! Thanks