Game Update 42 Preview! - Page 2

Hekynn · 02-02-2008, 02:05 PM

Wow!!!! I cant wait to start questing for my epic group items SMILEY

that will be great xp for me SMILEY

Spyderbite · 02-02-2008, 02:32 PM

Sola wrote:

EQ2 is a fantastic game, but when competing with WoW

Competing with WoW? That's like comparing the NFL to Nascar. Both, have their followings but usually have very different tastes in sports entertainment. WoW has a larger player base because it caters to people who have much lower standards for the depth, quality and challenge in their game play. And, I would prefer they stay there rather than migrate to EQ2 and become the majority voice when it comes to dumbing down our game.With that out of the way. I'm really looking forward to displaying some of the armor I've retired after moving on to a new tier. And, it frees up bank slots as I can display the sets for my next tier that I've put together, sort of like a visual incentive! XD

Cadori Seraphim · 02-02-2008, 02:53 PM

Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:

Sola wrote:
EQ2 is a fantastic game, but when competing with WoW
Competing with WoW? That's like comparing the NFL to Nascar. Both, have their followings but usually have very different tastes in sports entertainment. WoW has a larger player base because it caters to people who have much lower standards for the depth, quality and challenge in their game play. And, I would prefer they stay there rather than migrate to EQ2 and become the majority voice when it comes to dumbing down our game.With that out of the way. I'm really looking forward to displaying some of the armor I've retired after moving on to a new tier. And, it frees up bank slots as I can display the sets for my next tier that I've put together, sort of like a visual incentive! XD

Well said!

Marialle · 02-02-2008, 03:32 PM

I get so sick of all the WoW comparisons... if you like the game so much, go play it.That being said, I like this update. Now, if we can only get a few more gods "unlocked", as it were, like Erollisi Marr, Terris Thule, and a few others... but I'll give that time.

Guiddian · 02-02-2008, 04:20 PM

this isnt wow!!! this game does not have to compare with wow in anyway shape or form.

Sola · 02-02-2008, 06:02 PM

You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [Removed for Content] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people! My point being, EQ2 has a lot going for it. It's the reason I play EQ2 and not WoW! If you want to stick your head in the sand and say, "Oh, you can't compare the two; they are totally different" than have fun groaping for worms. No matter how you want to color coat it, they are direct rivals! It's more like comparing the NY Giants to some college football team because revenue wise, WoW trumps EQ2. This is what management look at when investing millions into a product. If you don't learn from your competition, you'll end up like Novell, dBase, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc... They all stuck their head in the sand thinking Microsoft wouldn't out pace them. Guess what; where are they now?!?

So if you want to see SOE and EQ2 continue to flourish, you better hell do some comparison with other MMO's. Otherwise you'll be nothing but a spot in history.

Spyderbite · 02-02-2008, 06:45 PM

Sola wrote:

You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [I cannot control my vocabulary] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people!

When it comes to Quantity vs. Quality.. we'll take the Quality as far as community is concerned. Games like UO have survived 10 years with sub 100k numbers. EQ and EQ2 aren't going anywhere soon.Take a browse through the newbie forum.. 90% of all the new player posts begin with "I just quit WoW".Sure there are more lemmings joining it every day to keep the population flourishing. But, the quality gamers.. those that seek challenge and a strong community will find their way here or to another similar game.Making EQ2 more like WoW will certainly increase the number of subscriptions. But, it will also drive away those who play MMO's for more traditional reasons. Specifically a supportive Community.*Has flashbacks of the Stepford Wives* SMILEY

Armawk · 02-02-2008, 06:45 PM

Sola wrote:

You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [I cannot control my vocabulary] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people! My point being, EQ2 has a lot going for it. It's the reason I play EQ2 and not WoW! If you want to stick your head in the sand and say, "Oh, you can't compare the two; they are totally different" than have fun groaping for worms. No matter how you want to color coat it, they are direct rivals! It's more like comparing the NY Giants to some college football team because revenue wise, WoW trumps EQ2. This is what management look at when investing millions into a product. If you don't learn from your competition, you'll end up like Novell, dBase, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc... They all stuck their head in the sand thinking Microsoft wouldn't out pace them. Guess what; where are they now?!

Would you sit in a fine restaurant and say 'Why on earth dont they make this place more like Mcdonalds?'. No you wouldnt, but Maccas makes 100000 more money and attracts vastly more customers, so why wouldnt you?

There is nothing wrong with high volume lowest common demoninator product.. but lets pray never to have a market with nothing else in it.

Spyderbite · 02-02-2008, 06:47 PM

shaunfletcher wrote:

Would you sit in a fine restaurant and say 'Why on earth dont they make this place more like Mcdonalds?'. No you wouldnt, but Maccas makes 100000 more money and attracts vastly more customers, so why wouldnt you?

[Removed for Content].. you're analogy beat the hell out of my NFL vs. Nascar analogy! XD Nice job!

denmom · 02-02-2008, 06:53 PM

What many aren't seeing is that Warcraft had a large fanbase from the start due to being an RTS PC game first for years. Since 1994!So when it was created as an MMO, of course it had a huge following. All those who played it as the RTS finally could get into the game and play in an utterly different way. And this is ten years after the first Warcraft RTS was released.So, yes, it's little wonder that with the above info WoW is a huge success and beat out EQ2 for subs at the start.But think about this: how many come from WoW to EQ2 looking for better content? Better community? Better gameplay?A lot.I base the above statement on the fact I seen in level chat and forums new players saying they're from WoW and are greatly surprised at the differences and are happy with EQ2.

Sola · 02-02-2008, 08:01 PM

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

But think about this: how many come from WoW to EQ2 looking for better content? Better community? Better gameplay?A lot.I base the above statement on the fact I seen in level chat and forums new players saying they're from WoW and are greatly surprised at the differences and are happy with EQ2.

Like I said, EQ2 has a lot of good points and I'm very glad to see people coming to EQ2 from WoW. It's good you and others point this out. It's these areas that EQ2 devs are doing great at. However, WoW does better community relations, they have very minimal zoning, they constantly update classes to compete toe to toe with one another, their client very seldomly crashes, they provide more graphic sets for armor, etc.. etc.. etc..

If you think I'm trying to run EQ2 in the ground, you're highly mistaken. I see EQ2 as an unpolished diamond I found among MMO's. Looking deep into it's core I see the beauty waiting to come out. And just like a fine jeweler takes painstaking effort to smooth the edges and to polish to perfection, I too wish the same for EQ2. This update #42 is a step in that direction! And as such, I want to encourage such hard labor and bring to the surface areas that many other forums talk down about EQ2. It has a strong heart in it's loyal fans like you and I, but to neglect where it needs more spit and polish is to do disservice to both the devs and us in the long run! We have to point out what people like including ourselves in other MMO's so devs can say, "oh yeah! you know what, maybe if we do this we can make it that much better!"

Needless to say, this is spiraling out of my scope of intention. If I thought WoW was a better game suited for me, I'd be playing WoW. However, I'm here because of all the beauty the devs have created in EQ2. It's more suited to my style of play and as such, I want to protect it.

"I am that gadfly whichGod has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you, arousing and persuading and reproaching you." -- Socrates

Powers · 02-03-2008, 12:03 AM

cenallron wrote:

It has always just seemed to me that Cazic is the only one arrogant enough to show his face, or what he wants to be seen as.

Funny you should say that, since Cazic-Thule is also known as the "Faceless". =)Powers &8^]

Yohann · 02-03-2008, 12:14 PM

-Arctura- wrote:

(( *Drowns in Drool*ohhhhh so nice. GREAT WORK TEAM "> NICE NICE.Mannequins look super fab, and they are just mannequins! Great work on the textures there! Super! Look like canvas sacks, something i'd expect from Fantasy genre, so Totally enhancing the Immersion there. Fine details are always nice.The weapons are a real treat. In-engine renders always win out visually ^_^ GREAT WORK!Its all happening so fast... i better sit down, im feeling light headed from all this excitement!PS. for future patch, can you make an option in broker window, a Checkbox if you will, that allows us to 'Display Cheapest Priced Item only' to show just 1 of each item, (the cheapest one). It would be super fabulous when doing searches for ... things like... Collectable Pages....Seriously, just typeing in 'page' results in a few hundred pages of broker listings of them hehe. Most are duplicates so it takes long hours to go through the whole list via Mouse-overs to see which ones we need and which ones we dont ">Mind you, its totally more advanced than it was at launch, since we can just mouse-over things now to compare or check if we need em. (*praises the coders for that much*) (all in all, great stuff)

um yeah you can now open your quest journal and go to collections and click on the ones you have missing and it will only show those in the broker box. This should save you even more time =)

Echgar · 02-03-2008, 01:05 PM

Let's stay on topic please. Some of the posts here are getting pretty off-topic with discussion about other games, other companies, and wish lists. This thread is about the Game Update 42 preview -- if you have feedback about other things it probably belongs elsewhere!

RickAO76 · 02-03-2008, 01:44 PM

I like the LU and all - but if the Ranger Epic ends up being anything, but a BOW - I am just going to SCREAM !

Freliant · 02-03-2008, 02:01 PM

RickAO76 wrote:

I like the LU and all - but if the Ranger Epic ends up being anything, but a BOW - I am just going to SCREAM !

Go check out Allah for concept art of the BOW that rangers are getting as their epic. ^_^ Happy trails.

Calthine · 02-03-2008, 05:20 PM

We had a lot of news this week, the Epics got pushed way down, lol. Here's your link: Epic Concept Art!

Melisondra · 02-04-2008, 10:36 AM

I still don't see anything about shipping boxes for mailing multiple items! I am so tired of mailing one item at a time, and again having to open 10 pages of mail because there is only one item attached to it!

Is it too much to ask for a simpler way to mail multiple items?

Areyl

74 Conj

Kithicor

Tiegar · 02-04-2008, 04:59 PM

I didn't read through this string of messages, so forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed.

Will/are the maniquins posable? If they aren't, it would be nice if the could be.

Thanks.

Windain · 02-04-2008, 05:29 PM

After seeing the actual epic pictures and the concept arts, I'm starting to ache for a bard picture. The possibilities are so high. Although as a troubador I'm kinda worried that the dirges one will be better looking like the class hats haha.

I'm hoping the troubador weapon is a harp + short sword hybrid that when not fighting you play. (little blue notes wouldn't hurt haha)

MisterE · 02-04-2008, 05:33 PM

well done guys. I can only hope my inq epic is a 1h weapon. puuuuhhhleeeaasee... i got a 2h that i like already.

NiamiDenMother · 02-04-2008, 06:11 PM

Tiegar wrote:

I didn't read through this string of messages, so forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed.
Will/are the maniquins posable? If they aren't, it would be nice if the could be.
Thanks.

No, they won't be. There are further versions being discussed/thought about, but it sounds like any poses will be done via pre-posed settings (one-handed weapon stance, 2-handed or such). I do NOT wanna see what would happen if there were player-created poses for these. {shakes head with a snicker}You'll find discussion of the mannequins over in the tradeskill forum. You can also hit up Dev Tracker for Rothgar's comments and responses.~Mum

Xandis · 02-04-2008, 07:43 PM

I'm excited. This is great news.

Is the Valentine's Day World events coming with the same update?

I wish they stated at what levels the EPICs where startable at. My guess, of course, is 80.

Epic Tradeskills? Wonderful Idea. SMILEY Have any more information on this?

Some coworkers just convinced me to by another Sony Station game last weekend.After reading this, I just mailed them and told them they won't be seeing me for a few months. SMILEY

Aquiline · 02-04-2008, 08:16 PM

MisterE wrote:

well done guys. I can only hope my inq epic is a 1h weapon. puuuuhhhleeeaasee... i got a 2h that i like already.

I can see this being an issue as I would prefer a 2H on my Battle Cleric INQ, so I have a feeling that some may not be pleased if they prefer one weapon over another and only are giving one choice.But, not to be a negative Nancy, the images shown are truly amazing. And I didn't even know you could actually see the Avatar versions in game of some of the Deities. Gheesh, I need to get into a guild to see these raids! Got burnt out of raiding in WoW, so have been avoiding it at all costs.

Mustang8259 · 02-04-2008, 08:23 PM

I might have missed if anyone explained this further, but I noticed that it said there are adventurer AND tradeskill epics... Exactly what are tradeskill epics? Are they items similar to what we saw in Fallen Dynasty, that make crafting easier? Has there been any info released on the TS ones? or has it just been primarily the adventurer epics that are being showcased... Any info is appreciated thanks! =)

Valdaglerion · 02-04-2008, 08:40 PM

Mustang8259 wrote:

I might have missed if anyone explained this further, but I noticed that it said there are adventurer AND tradeskill epics... Exactly what are tradeskill epics? Are they items similar to what we saw in Fallen Dynasty, that make crafting easier? Has there been any info released on the TS ones? or has it just been primarily the adventurer epics that are being showcased... Any info is appreciated thanks! =)

There arent tradeskill epics. The TS dev Domino has already addressed this in the TS forums. There is a "class" questline but you should read her notes and explanation for yourself in the TS forum.

Gnobrin · 02-04-2008, 11:07 PM

Do not stare at the babbling gnome... he drools and speaks about himself in the 3rd person far too much.

~Gnobrin!

CorpseGoddess · 02-05-2008, 01:32 AM

Is there a time for the update going live? I looked around and couldn't find one. But then again I'm on pain meds, so it might very well be on the front page somewhere...

Ravaan · 02-05-2008, 02:11 AM

an expansion? are you guys fricken out of your mind? you guys add one quest with weapons that actually have new models "OMG woot!" ... three new mob models and a mannequin set for our house and you think this is an expansion.

wheres guild hallswheres Kurns towerwheres new skeletal stuff

when the hell was our last update? the actual RoK expansion? so in how many months you guys put this out ... I mean i'm happy that the epics are FINALLY coming out but come on don't try to build this up to an expansion level.

I see what WoW gets every couple updates and think [Removed for Content] why can't we get updates like that.

Domino · 02-05-2008, 02:54 AM

Gnobrin wrote:

Do take note too Artemiz, the Senior Producer has mentioned in the past about Tradeskill Epic cloaks. Domino may be calling them different at the time being, but if your boss calls them an Epic, it may indeed be so whether you wish to call them that or not.

He's a sucker for a pretty face! Or at least, an epically pretty cloak. SMILEY

However, there's more of the actual details in the tradeskill forum, for example here!

02-02-2008, 02:05 PM	#31
Hekynn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 73	Wow!!!! I cant wait to start questing for my epic group items that will be great xp for me __________________

02-02-2008, 02:32 PM	#32
Spyderbite Server: Venekor Guild: Dark Vengeance Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,262	Sola wrote: EQ2 is a fantastic game, but when competing with WoW Competing with WoW? That's like comparing the NFL to Nascar. Both, have their followings but usually have very different tastes in sports entertainment. WoW has a larger player base because it caters to people who have much lower standards for the depth, quality and challenge in their game play. And, I would prefer they stay there rather than migrate to EQ2 and become the majority voice when it comes to dumbing down our game.With that out of the way. I'm really looking forward to displaying some of the armor I've retired after moving on to a new tier. And, it frees up bank slots as I can display the sets for my next tier that I've put together, sort of like a visual incentive! XD

02-02-2008, 02:53 PM	#33
Cadori Seraphim Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 965	Spyderbite@Venekor wrote: Sola wrote: EQ2 is a fantastic game, but when competing with WoW Competing with WoW? That's like comparing the NFL to Nascar. Both, have their followings but usually have very different tastes in sports entertainment. WoW has a larger player base because it caters to people who have much lower standards for the depth, quality and challenge in their game play. And, I would prefer they stay there rather than migrate to EQ2 and become the majority voice when it comes to dumbing down our game.With that out of the way. I'm really looking forward to displaying some of the armor I've retired after moving on to a new tier. And, it frees up bank slots as I can display the sets for my next tier that I've put together, sort of like a visual incentive! XD Well said!

02-02-2008, 06:02 PM	#36
Sola Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 108	You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [Removed for Content] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people! My point being, EQ2 has a lot going for it. It's the reason I play EQ2 and not WoW! If you want to stick your head in the sand and say, "Oh, you can't compare the two; they are totally different" than have fun groaping for worms. No matter how you want to color coat it, they are direct rivals! It's more like comparing the NY Giants to some college football team because revenue wise, WoW trumps EQ2. This is what management look at when investing millions into a product. If you don't learn from your competition, you'll end up like Novell, dBase, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc... They all stuck their head in the sand thinking Microsoft wouldn't out pace them. Guess what; where are they now?!? So if you want to see SOE and EQ2 continue to flourish, you better hell do some comparison with other MMO's. Otherwise you'll be nothing but a spot in history. __________________

02-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#37
Spyderbite Server: Venekor Guild: Dark Vengeance Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,262	Sola wrote: You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [I cannot control my vocabulary] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people! When it comes to Quantity vs. Quality.. we'll take the Quality as far as community is concerned. Games like UO have survived 10 years with sub 100k numbers. EQ and EQ2 aren't going anywhere soon.Take a browse through the newbie forum.. 90% of all the new player posts begin with "I just quit WoW".Sure there are more lemmings joining it every day to keep the population flourishing. But, the quality gamers.. those that seek challenge and a strong community will find their way here or to another similar game.Making EQ2 more like WoW will certainly increase the number of subscriptions. But, it will also drive away those who play MMO's for more traditional reasons. Specifically a supportive Community.Has flashbacks of the Stepford Wives

02-02-2008, 03:32 PM	#34
Marialle Tester Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South of Heaven, AKA Colorado Posts: 50	I get so sick of all the WoW comparisons... if you like the game so much, go play it.That being said, I like this update. Now, if we can only get a few more gods "unlocked", as it were, like Erollisi Marr, Terris Thule, and a few others... but I'll give that time.

02-02-2008, 04:20 PM	#35
Guiddian Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 98	this isnt wow!!! this game does not have to compare with wow in anyway shape or form.

02-02-2008, 06:45 PM	#38
Armawk Server: Everfrost Guild: Nos Es Rutilus Rank: Tirones Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,240	Sola wrote: You're right, it's not WoW, but SOE got their [I cannot control my vocabulary] handed to them when WoW produced a product that has 10+ times the amount of people! My point being, EQ2 has a lot going for it. It's the reason I play EQ2 and not WoW! If you want to stick your head in the sand and say, "Oh, you can't compare the two; they are totally different" than have fun groaping for worms. No matter how you want to color coat it, they are direct rivals! It's more like comparing the NY Giants to some college football team because revenue wise, WoW trumps EQ2. This is what management look at when investing millions into a product. If you don't learn from your competition, you'll end up like Novell, dBase, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc... They all stuck their head in the sand thinking Microsoft wouldn't out pace them. Guess what; where are they now?! Would you sit in a fine restaurant and say 'Why on earth dont they make this place more like Mcdonalds?'. No you wouldnt, but Maccas makes 100000 more money and attracts vastly more customers, so why wouldnt you? There is nothing wrong with high volume lowest common demoninator product.. but lets pray never to have a market with nothing else in it.

02-02-2008, 06:47 PM	#39
Spyderbite Server: Venekor Guild: Dark Vengeance Rank: Member Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts: 4,262	shaunfletcher wrote: Would you sit in a fine restaurant and say 'Why on earth dont they make this place more like Mcdonalds?'. No you wouldnt, but Maccas makes 100000 more money and attracts vastly more customers, so why wouldnt you? [Removed for Content].. you're analogy beat the hell out of my NFL vs. Nascar analogy! XD Nice job!

02-02-2008, 06:53 PM	#40
denmom Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Paradigm Clutch: Never shift reality without one... Posts: 2,490	What many aren't seeing is that Warcraft had a large fanbase from the *start* due to being an RTS PC game *first* for *years.* Since *1994!So when it was created as an MMO, of course* it had a huge following. All those who played it as the RTS finally could get into the game and play in an utterly different way. And this is *ten years* after the first Warcraft RTS was released.So, yes, it's little wonder that with the above info WoW is a huge success and beat out EQ2 for subs at the start.But think about this: how many come from WoW to EQ2 looking for better content? Better community? Better gameplay?A lot.I base the above statement on the fact I seen in level chat and forums new players saying they're from WoW and are greatly surprised at the differences and are happy with EQ2. __________________ What I do when not playing EQ2: Paradigm Clutch

02-02-2008, 08:01 PM	#41
Sola Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 108	Pheep@Unrest wrote: But think about this: how many come from WoW to EQ2 looking for better content? Better community? Better gameplay?A lot.I base the above statement on the fact I seen in level chat and forums new players saying they're from WoW and are greatly surprised at the differences and are happy with EQ2. Like I said, EQ2 has a lot of good points and I'm very glad to see people coming to EQ2 from WoW. It's good you and others point this out. It's these areas that EQ2 devs are doing great at. However, WoW does better community relations, they have very minimal zoning, they constantly update classes to compete toe to toe with one another, their client very seldomly crashes, they provide more graphic sets for armor, etc.. etc.. etc.. If you think I'm trying to run EQ2 in the ground, you're highly mistaken. I see EQ2 as an unpolished diamond I found among MMO's. Looking deep into it's core I see the beauty waiting to come out. And just like a fine jeweler takes painstaking effort to smooth the edges and to polish to perfection, I too wish the same for EQ2. This update #42 is a step in that direction! And as such, I want to encourage such hard labor and bring to the surface areas that many other forums talk down about EQ2. It has a strong heart in it's loyal fans like you and I, but to neglect where it needs more spit and polish is to do disservice to both the devs and us in the long run! We have to point out what people like including ourselves in other MMO's so devs can say, "oh yeah! you know what, maybe if we do this we can make it that much better!" Needless to say, this is spiraling out of my scope of intention. If I thought WoW was a better game suited for me, I'd be playing WoW. However, I'm here because of all the beauty the devs have created in EQ2. It's more suited to my style of play and as such, I want to protect it. "I am that gadfly whichGod has attached to the state, and all day long and in all places am always fastening upon you, arousing and persuading and reproaching you." -- Socrates __________________

02-03-2008, 12:03 AM	#42
Powers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 664	cenallron wrote: It has always just seemed to me that Cazic is the only one arrogant enough to show his face, or what he wants to be seen as. Funny you should say that, since Cazic-Thule is also known as the "Faceless". =)Powers &8^]

02-03-2008, 12:14 PM	#43
Yohann Server: Everfrost Guild: Severed Alliance Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 25	-Arctura- wrote: (( Drowns in Droolohhhhh so nice. GREAT WORK TEAM "> NICE NICE.Mannequins look super fab, and they are just mannequins! Great work on the textures there! Super! Look like canvas sacks, something i'd expect from Fantasy genre, so Totally enhancing the Immersion there. Fine details are always nice.The weapons are a real treat. In-engine renders always win out visually ^_^ GREAT WORK!Its all happening so fast... i better sit down, im feeling light headed from all this excitement!PS. for future patch, can you make an option in broker window, a Checkbox if you will, that allows us to 'Display Cheapest Priced Item only' to show just 1 of each item, (the cheapest one). It would be super fabulous when doing searches for ... things like... Collectable Pages....Seriously, just typeing in 'page' results in a few hundred pages of broker listings of them hehe. Most are duplicates so it takes long hours to go through the whole list via Mouse-overs to see which ones we need and which ones we dont ">Mind you, its totally more advanced than it was at launch, since we can just mouse-over things now to compare or check if we need em. (praises the coders for that much) (all in all, great stuff) um yeah you can now open your quest journal and go to collections and click on the ones you have missing and it will only show those in the broker box. This should save you even more time =)

02-03-2008, 01:05 PM	#44
Echgar Forum Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,004	Let's stay on topic please. Some of the posts here are getting pretty off-topic with discussion about other games, other companies, and wish lists. This thread is about the Game Update 42 preview -- if you have feedback about other things it probably belongs elsewhere! __________________ \|\| Forum Rules \|\| TRACKERS: Community \|\| Tech \|\| Dev \|\|

02-03-2008, 01:44 PM	#45
RickAO76 Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 36	I like the LU and all - but if the Ranger Epic ends up being anything, but a BOW - I am just going to SCREAM !

02-03-2008, 02:01 PM	#46
Freliant Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,016	RickAO76 wrote: I like the LU and all - but if the Ranger Epic ends up being anything, but a BOW - I am just going to SCREAM ! Go check out Allah for concept art of the BOW that rangers are getting as their epic. ^_^ Happy trails. __________________ "Change is inevitable" - AM Sephastus 80 Wizard - Retired Onosphire 80 Guardian- Retired

02-03-2008, 05:20 PM	#47
Calthine ZAM EQII Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,439	We had a lot of news this week, the Epics got pushed way down, lol. Here's your link: Epic Concept Art! __________________ Please visit my non-gaming Blog! or follow me on Twitter!

02-04-2008, 10:36 AM	#48
Melisondra Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	I still don't see anything about shipping boxes for mailing multiple items! I am so tired of mailing one item at a time, and again having to open 10 pages of mail because there is only one item attached to it! Is it too much to ask for a simpler way to mail multiple items? Areyl 74 Conj Kithicor

02-04-2008, 04:59 PM	#49
Tiegar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 38	I didn't read through this string of messages, so forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed. Will/are the maniquins posable? If they aren't, it would be nice if the could be. Thanks.

02-04-2008, 05:29 PM	#50
Windain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 117	After seeing the actual epic pictures and the concept arts, I'm starting to ache for a bard picture. The possibilities are so high. Although as a troubador I'm kinda worried that the dirges one will be better looking like the class hats haha. I'm hoping the troubador weapon is a harp + short sword hybrid that when not fighting you play. (little blue notes wouldn't hurt haha) __________________ Windain Shijin 80 Troubador 80 Woodworker Kithicor

02-04-2008, 05:33 PM	#51
MisterE Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 100	well done guys. I can only hope my inq epic is a 1h weapon. puuuuhhhleeeaasee... i got a 2h that i like already.

02-04-2008, 06:11 PM	#52
NiamiDenMother EQ2TC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: EQ2 Traders Corner Posts: 1,031	Tiegar wrote: I didn't read through this string of messages, so forgive me if this has already been asked/addressed. Will/are the maniquins posable? If they aren't, it would be nice if the could be. Thanks. No, they won't be. There are further versions being discussed/thought about, but it sounds like any poses will be done via pre-posed settings (one-handed weapon stance, 2-handed or such). I do NOT wanna see what would happen if there were player-created poses for these. {shakes head with a snicker}You'll find discussion of the mannequins over in the tradeskill forum. You can also hit up Dev Tracker for Rothgar's comments and responses.~Mum __________________

02-04-2008, 07:43 PM	#53
Xandis Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 25	I'm excited. This is great news. Is the Valentine's Day World events coming with the same update? I wish they stated at what levels the EPICs where startable at. My guess, of course, is 80. Epic Tradeskills? Wonderful Idea. Have any more information on this? Some coworkers just convinced me to by another Sony Station game last weekend.After reading this, I just mailed them and told them they won't be seeing me for a few months.

02-04-2008, 08:16 PM	#54
Aquiline Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 12	MisterE wrote: well done guys. I can only hope my inq epic is a 1h weapon. puuuuhhhleeeaasee... i got a 2h that i like already. I can see this being an issue as I would prefer a 2H on my Battle Cleric INQ, so I have a feeling that some may not be pleased if they prefer one weapon over another and only are giving one choice.But, not to be a negative Nancy, the images shown are truly amazing. And I didn't even know you could actually see the Avatar versions in game of some of the Deities. Gheesh, I need to get into a guild to see these raids! Got burnt out of raiding in WoW, so have been avoiding it at all costs. __________________

02-04-2008, 08:23 PM	#55
Mustang8259 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 268	I might have missed if anyone explained this further, but I noticed that it said there are adventurer AND tradeskill epics... Exactly what are tradeskill epics? Are they items similar to what we saw in Fallen Dynasty, that make crafting easier? Has there been any info released on the TS ones? or has it just been primarily the adventurer epics that are being showcased... Any info is appreciated thanks! =) __________________

02-04-2008, 08:40 PM	#56
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Mustang8259 wrote: I might have missed if anyone explained this further, but I noticed that it said there are adventurer AND tradeskill epics... Exactly what are tradeskill epics? Are they items similar to what we saw in Fallen Dynasty, that make crafting easier? Has there been any info released on the TS ones? or has it just been primarily the adventurer epics that are being showcased... Any info is appreciated thanks! =) There arent tradeskill epics. The TS dev Domino has already addressed this in the TS forums. There is a "class" questline but you should read her notes and explanation for yourself in the TS forum.

02-04-2008, 11:07 PM	#57
Gnobrin Steam-monkey Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ak'Anon Posts: 1,007	Do not stare at the babbling gnome... he drools and speaks about himself in the 3rd person far too much. ~Gnobrin!

02-05-2008, 01:32 AM	#58
CorpseGoddess Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,774	Is there a time for the update going live? I looked around and couldn't find one. But then again I'm on pain meds, so it might very well be on the front page somewhere... __________________

02-05-2008, 02:11 AM	#59
Ravaan Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 554	an expansion? are you guys fricken out of your mind? you guys add one quest with weapons that actually have new models "OMG woot!" ... three new mob models and a mannequin set for our house and you think this is an expansion. wheres guild hallswheres Kurns towerwheres new skeletal stuff when the hell was our last update? the actual RoK expansion? so in how many months you guys put this out ... I mean i'm happy that the epics are FINALLY coming out but come on don't try to build this up to an expansion level. I see what WoW gets every couple updates and think [Removed for Content] why can't we get updates like that.

02-05-2008, 02:54 AM	#60
Domino Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 2,046	Gnobrin wrote: Do take note too Artemiz, the Senior Producer has mentioned in the past about Tradeskill Epic cloaks. Domino may be calling them different at the time being, but if your boss calls them an Epic, it may indeed be so whether you wish to call them that or not. He's a sucker for a pretty face! Or at least, an epically pretty cloak. However, there's more of the actual details in the tradeskill forum, for example here!