AA poisen...worth it? - Page 2

Jay · 09-23-2006, 01:19 AM

Crychtonn wrote:

All you people keep jumping away from the OP's game play and keep moving it to yours. He clearly stated that he Mainly solo's or does small groups. Stop focusing on what works best on raids and stick to what he is asking.

In solo play he will be doing alot of melee and he will also be taking more direct attacks. From that standpoint alone it is better for him to go down the Str line then the Int line.

Hey, want a badge to wear while policing our threads? SMILEY

Seriously, there were plenty of answers on the first page that recommended STR line for soloing and grouping. The OP even acknowledged those answers and understood them. The discussion evolved from there with a few add'l questions about different AA abilities and the contexts in which different lines are most useful. I'd agree with your complaint if the OP's question had been ignored, but it wasn't - it was answered and we moved on from there. I for one don't think we need to start more and more threads after 3-6 posts answer one single question.

Tobann · 09-23-2006, 01:49 AM

I think I have the info I needed, and thanks to all the posters. I think it has been an interesting discussion, so I have no problem with the way the discussion has gone.Buaf

Cylmore · 09-23-2006, 02:02 AM

Personally, I've been trying to figure out which way to go, so this thread has really helped me. Never hurts to look at all the angles.

Rahmn · 09-26-2006, 10:45 PM

I'm actually noticing that the 52% spell damage crit chance seems to work on procs as well as poisons.

Salor Ravensworth · 09-26-2006, 11:23 PM

Agl and Int for raids and Agl, Str for solo, single group setup. Depending on what you do should determine your setup.

Kala Asuras · 09-26-2006, 11:25 PM

Rahmn, you mentioned procs but I was curious if anyone was seeing and increase in Quick Shot crits do to the INT AA since it is a bit of a funny proc for us. (damage is increased with STR instead of INT like poisons)

Rahmn · 09-26-2006, 11:42 PM

Kala Asuras wrote:
Rahmn, you mentioned procs but I was curious if anyone was seeing and increase in Quick Shot crits do to the INT AA since it is a bit of a funny proc for us. (damage is increased with STR instead of INT like poisons)

Yes I include that in procs and I do see more Quick shot crits. It doesn't however increase the rate of the actually proc.

Kala Asuras · 09-29-2006, 05:31 PM

I just recently changed from agi/str to agi/int and have to say I am not seeing what you are in regards to the Quick Shot procs. They don't seem to be criting more often and the crits that I do get match the % from the AGI line more than the 52% spell crits from the INT line. Is anyone else seeing something similar?

dbyrd1568 · 09-29-2006, 07:30 PM

42 AA's AGI line went 4/4/4/4/1 and INT line 4/4/4/4 was waiting for 8 points to do the finial INT ability because thinking the debuffs would work on Epics. Do you think as an epic debuff, the ablity is worth it? Or should I max my 2 crit lines in INT and AGI?

xandez · 09-29-2006, 09:26 PM

Well... if generally the most things that do dmg for me is piercing, poison and quick shot... *shrug*

I'd maybe try out maxing the crits lines, but thats just me... have only 17 points atm and of those 8 in point blank shot, because i like the 3s stun in solo SMILEY

++Xan

Tobann · 09-30-2006, 02:38 AM

Ive completed the Agi line and the Int line up to the final AA skill. I think Im going to try and max put my ranged crits and poisen crits for now and see how that does. I still have my free respec if it doesnt work. This may all go out the window of course when the new AA's come in with the expansion.Buaf

Bratik · 09-30-2006, 10:45 PM

Godd discussion all. I have had the same questions and I'm getting close to having to choose between str and ini. I havent heard anyone comment on choosing with PVP in mind. Any thoughts? I'm thinking ini for the increased poison effects.

xandez · 10-02-2006, 03:06 PM

not a PvP:er myself, but...Isnt the PvP all about survivability? Not just that you can gank someone effectively, but that you can also survive in the process.... I'd prolly take AGI and STA lines in PvP and maybe give the AGI line last ability a try also... since its not nice to wait those long cast time CA:s to complete when someones trying to kill ya! SMILEY

But... surely more dmg wont hurt in the process. Even wisdom line could be nice in PvP i think... shrug.++Xan

LoreLady · 10-09-2006, 03:47 PM

Bumping this up for a change in a earlier post showing 7% chance to crit in melee

09-23-2006, 01:19 AM	#31
Jay General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,137	Crychtonn wrote: All you people keep jumping away from the OP's game play and keep moving it to yours. He clearly stated that he Mainly solo's or does small groups. Stop focusing on what works best on raids and stick to what he is asking. In solo play he will be doing alot of melee and he will also be taking more direct attacks. From that standpoint alone it is better for him to go down the Str line then the Int line. Hey, want a badge to wear while policing our threads? Seriously, there were plenty of answers on the first page that recommended STR line for soloing and grouping. The OP even acknowledged those answers and understood them. The discussion evolved from there with a few add'l questions about different AA abilities and the contexts in which different lines are most useful. I'd agree with your complaint if the OP's question had been ignored, but it wasn't - it was answered and we moved on from there. I for one don't think we need to start more and more threads after 3-6 posts answer one single question. __________________

09-23-2006, 01:49 AM	#32
Tobann Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 176	I think I have the info I needed, and thanks to all the posters. I think it has been an interesting discussion, so I have no problem with the way the discussion has gone.Buaf __________________ http://eq2players.station.sony.com/s.../418052201.png

09-26-2006, 10:45 PM	#34
Rahmn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 133	I'm actually noticing that the 52% spell damage crit chance seems to work on procs as well as poisons. __________________ Vertigo, Everfrost Ranger Merry Christmas!!!

09-26-2006, 11:23 PM	#35
Salor Ravensworth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	Agl and Int for raids and Agl, Str for solo, single group setup. Depending on what you do should determine your setup. __________________ Salor Ravensworth 70 Ranger/70 Woodworker The Bekwen Alliance AB

09-26-2006, 11:25 PM	#36
Kala Asuras Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 200	Rahmn, you mentioned procs but I was curious if anyone was seeing and increase in Quick Shot crits do to the INT AA since it is a bit of a funny proc for us. (damage is increased with STR instead of INT like poisons) __________________

09-23-2006, 02:02 AM	#33
Cylmore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 23	Personally, I've been trying to figure out which way to go, so this thread has really helped me. Never hurts to look at all the angles.

09-26-2006, 11:42 PM	#37
Rahmn Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 133	Kala Asuras wrote: Rahmn, you mentioned procs but I was curious if anyone was seeing and increase in Quick Shot crits do to the INT AA since it is a bit of a funny proc for us. (damage is increased with STR instead of INT like poisons) Yes I include that in procs and I do see more Quick shot crits. It doesn't however increase the rate of the actually proc. __________________ Vertigo, Everfrost Ranger Merry Christmas!!!

09-29-2006, 05:31 PM	#38
Kala Asuras Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 200	I just recently changed from agi/str to agi/int and have to say I am not seeing what you are in regards to the Quick Shot procs. They don't seem to be criting more often and the crits that I do get match the % from the AGI line more than the 52% spell crits from the INT line. Is anyone else seeing something similar? __________________

09-29-2006, 07:30 PM	#39
dbyrd1568 Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 10	42 AA's AGI line went 4/4/4/4/1 and INT line 4/4/4/4 was waiting for 8 points to do the finial INT ability because thinking the debuffs would work on Epics. Do you think as an epic debuff, the ablity is worth it? Or should I max my 2 crit lines in INT and AGI?

09-29-2006, 09:26 PM	#40
xandez Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,044	Well... if generally the most things that do dmg for me is piercing, poison and quick shot... shrug I'd maybe try out maxing the crits lines, but thats just me... have only 17 points atm and of those 8 in point blank shot, because i like the 3s stun in solo ++Xan __________________ One can survive everything, nowadays, except death, and live down everything except a good reputation.

09-30-2006, 02:38 AM	#41
Tobann Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 176	Ive completed the Agi line and the Int line up to the final AA skill. I think Im going to try and max put my ranged crits and poisen crits for now and see how that does. I still have my free respec if it doesnt work. This may all go out the window of course when the new AA's come in with the expansion.Buaf __________________ http://eq2players.station.sony.com/s.../418052201.png

09-30-2006, 10:45 PM	#42
Bratik Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	Godd discussion all. I have had the same questions and I'm getting close to having to choose between str and ini. I havent heard anyone comment on choosing with PVP in mind. Any thoughts? I'm thinking ini for the increased poison effects.

10-02-2006, 03:06 PM	#43
xandez Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,044	not a PvP:er myself, but...Isnt the PvP all about survivability? Not just that you can gank someone effectively, but that you can also survive in the process.... I'd prolly take AGI and STA lines in PvP and maybe give the AGI line last ability a try also... since its not nice to wait those long cast time CA:s to complete when someones trying to kill ya! But... surely more dmg wont hurt in the process. Even wisdom line could be nice in PvP i think... shrug.++Xan __________________ One can survive everything, nowadays, except death, and live down everything except a good reputation.

10-09-2006, 03:47 PM	#44
LoreLady Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,039	Bumping this up for a change in a earlier post showing 7% chance to crit in melee __________________ RIP Oakleaf 1949-2006