Warlocks broken on Beta? Haha, yea right! - Page 2

Korpo · 09-12-2005, 10:20 PM

I usually can't go all out without pulling agro, and I've raided with a lot of good tanks. Full fabled, full masters, the works. A well upgraded, chain nuking warlock can pull agro off the best of tanks. Pallies are your friend, as they (currently) are kind of free agents in raids. Get one in your group and have him cast redemption on you. It takes about 33% of your hate and assigns it to him, making it really, really hard to pull agro. Pallies get even better hate siphoning post revamp, so we'll see what happens.

Typho · 09-12-2005, 11:30 PM

Nergall wrote:

I doubt I can stratch that number alot more without getting agro.

600 doesnt sound realistic.

On a single fight you wont get that number unless you are fully matered.

A friend of mine is probably the highest DPS warlock worldwide.

We once parsed Undertow fight and he did like 18k dmg.He didnt have the DPS number but it was in a very short time.

BUT he have EVERYTHING master1.

And he can steal agero from anyone anytime,single or multi targets.

At Zek I guess 550 is the top or so without agro.

You guys forget that I DONT want to get agro...../sigh

Take this for what it's worth... I have no pics of the parses but a couple times I've done right about 650DPS in Zek. I have Master Dev, Master N. Absolution and the rest adept 3's... The manner I approach it is I Netheros the main name, Chaotic Maelstorm him then just spam all my spells (DD & Absolution lines) til encounter is dead. Oh and I melee too for the dmg procs.

Of course I assume that approach will get me very dead post expansion... atm I only get agro if our MT's get stunned early and I spam regardless.

StevaiB · 09-13-2005, 01:27 AM

Crono1321 wrote:
CL reading skills FTW! WOOOO CL!

Like OMG!!1111!11!1 someone from Clan Lynx made a simple mistake! And, oh oh oh, this is new ... someone from Monolith has to point it out! At least you didn't create a seperate thread linking to my uber mistake, otherwise I'd be completely humiliated!

Moonspark · 09-13-2005, 02:28 AM

Monolith?! That was the #2 guild on my eq1 server under blades of wrath, the very VERY #2 guild

Erow · 09-14-2005, 12:40 AM

Moonspark wrote:

Okay, I forgot to take screenshots and I'm sorry. I forgot to keep the logs of my parse, also, I'm sorry. Maybe next time I log onto beta I will save logs and screenshots.

Today, I got to test out beta with my warlock. I got beta buffed up to level 60 with a bunch of friends, and given mostly all adept 1 quality post 50 spells.

Not ONLY did I have a BLAST playing my class (my netheros is a nightblood and I have 3 other attack mobs, plus the warp spell kicks [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]), but I did more damage than I could ever possibly imagine. I didn't get to test very long, and the mobs I was fighting weren't LARGE groups, max of 3 per heroic encounter, but this is how my DPS looked. Blue triple up heroic: around 200-300dps (very respectable seeing as the scout in my group was hitting around 200 and tank around 100.) Blue two mob groups: 500-800 dps (holy crap that was a lot.) Only got to kill two groups of 3 blue single up mobs, but on both of them I got in upwards of 1k dps...yes, 1000+ dps. I could only IMAGINE if I had a group of 5 or more mobs to AE.

Seriously, warlocks are fixed. Rejoice and all that.

LOL.... what level is your Warlock ..?

Moonspark · 09-14-2005, 09:34 PM

On beta 60 on live 20% from 51. Been 50 since february.

urShak · 09-15-2005, 04:31 PM

whatever you guys are posting here ... about 450 to 600 dps is simply bull ...

i am one of three warlocks of the german top raiding guild Feral Fires, we did underworldsummoner a few times, and except for you guys telling us stuff out of the blue, i will post a (sadly german) parsed file.

Esmeroth and Ratzfatz are the 2 warlocks

i did an absolute MAXIMUM of damage (nearly 30.000 damage within 2 minutes) because i did not need to care about agro. So my dps vs that single encounter is 250. And thats pretty much the maximum for me.

So either i did get something wrong about your 450 to 600 dps in Zek or you guys are simply living in a dream world...

http://www.chaosengine.de/eq2/shots/ff/logs/110905/ (thats the german log thingy)

Message Edited by urShak on 09-15-2005 05:31 AM

papabear0 · 09-15-2005, 07:21 PM

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urShak wrote:

whatever you guys are posting here ... about 450 to 600 dps is simply bull ...

i am one of three warlocks of the german top raiding guild Feral Fires, we did underworldsummoner a few times, and except for you guys telling us stuff out of the blue, i will post a (sadly german) parsed file.

Esmeroth and Ratzfatz are the 2 warlocks

i did an absolute MAXIMUM of damage (nearly 30.000 damage within 2 minutes) because i did not need to care about agro. So my dps vs that single encounter is 250. And thats pretty much the maximum for me.

So either i did get something wrong about your 450 to 600 dps in Zek or you guys are simply living in a dream world...

http://www.chaosengine.de/eq2/shots/ff/logs/110905/ (thats the german log thingy)

Message Edited by urShak on 09-15-200505:31 AM

much love la~
Visit our evil Guild Feral Fires (Valor)

Ratzfatz(kaputt) - Warlock

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warlocks in my guild prior to the combat changes can go up to 600+ in zek and ant epics, 400+ when they slacking. we are unable to continue to raid these zones because everyone is too busy exploring the new expansion. i would like to go back and see what they (and the other classes) can do now.

if your only doing around 250 every encounter, maybe you should ask the others how they are doing it instead of calling BS.

urShak · 09-16-2005, 10:43 AM

living in a dream world do you?

what i tried to explain is: 250 is quite much of the most damage you can do vs a single raid encounter ... i havent been talking of green con grps of 5mobs ... we all know about AE spells easily raising DPS (since its ez math -> total damage / combattime-in-seconds)

so whats these guys dps for real raid mobs? and where is the screenshots? logs? parsings? Proof it, kid.

09-12-2005, 10:20 PM	#31
Korpo Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,141	I usually can't go all out without pulling agro, and I've raided with a lot of good tanks. Full fabled, full masters, the works. A well upgraded, chain nuking warlock can pull agro off the best of tanks. Pallies are your friend, as they (currently) are kind of free agents in raids. Get one in your group and have him cast redemption on you. It takes about 33% of your hate and assigns it to him, making it really, really hard to pull agro. Pallies get even better hate siphoning post revamp, so we'll see what happens. __________________

09-12-2005, 11:30 PM	#32
Typho Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	Nergall wrote: I doubt I can stratch that number alot more without getting agro. 600 doesnt sound realistic. On a single fight you wont get that number unless you are fully matered. A friend of mine is probably the highest DPS warlock worldwide. We once parsed Undertow fight and he did like 18k dmg.He didnt have the DPS number but it was in a very short time. BUT he have EVERYTHING master1. And he can steal agero from anyone anytime,single or multi targets. At Zek I guess 550 is the top or so without agro. You guys forget that I DONT want to get agro...../sigh Take this for what it's worth... I have no pics of the parses but a couple times I've done right about 650DPS in Zek. I have Master Dev, Master N. Absolution and the rest adept 3's... The manner I approach it is I Netheros the main name, Chaotic Maelstorm him then just spam all my spells (DD & Absolution lines) til encounter is dead. Oh and I melee too for the dmg procs. Of course I assume that approach will get me very dead post expansion... atm I only get agro if our MT's get stunned early and I spam regardless.

09-13-2005, 01:27 AM	#33
StevaiB Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 17	Crono1321 wrote: CL reading skills FTW! WOOOO CL! Like OMG!!1111!11!1 someone from Clan Lynx made a simple mistake! And, oh oh oh, this is new ... someone from Monolith has to point it out! At least you didn't create a seperate thread linking to my uber mistake, otherwise I'd be completely humiliated! __________________ Stevai -=*=- 55 Warlock - Retired Clan LynX

09-14-2005, 12:40 AM	#35
Erow Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 174	Moonspark wrote: Okay, I forgot to take screenshots and I'm sorry. I forgot to keep the logs of my parse, also, I'm sorry. Maybe next time I log onto beta I will save logs and screenshots. Today, I got to test out beta with my warlock. I got beta buffed up to level 60 with a bunch of friends, and given mostly all adept 1 quality post 50 spells. Not ONLY did I have a BLAST playing my class (my netheros is a nightblood and I have 3 other attack mobs, plus the warp spell kicks [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]), but I did more damage than I could ever possibly imagine. I didn't get to test very long, and the mobs I was fighting weren't LARGE groups, max of 3 per heroic encounter, but this is how my DPS looked. Blue triple up heroic: around 200-300dps (very respectable seeing as the scout in my group was hitting around 200 and tank around 100.) Blue two mob groups: 500-800 dps (holy crap that was a lot.) Only got to kill two groups of 3 blue single up mobs, but on both of them I got in upwards of 1k dps...yes, 1000+ dps. I could only IMAGINE if I had a group of 5 or more mobs to AE. Seriously, warlocks are fixed. Rejoice and all that. LOL.... what level is your Warlock ..?

09-15-2005, 04:31 PM	#37
urShak Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 156	whatever you guys are posting here ... about 450 to 600 dps is simply bull ... i am one of three warlocks of the german top raiding guild Feral Fires, we did underworldsummoner a few times, and except for you guys telling us stuff out of the blue, i will post a (sadly german) parsed file. Esmeroth and Ratzfatz are the 2 warlocks i did an absolute MAXIMUM of damage (nearly 30.000 damage within 2 minutes) because i did not need to care about agro. So my dps vs that single encounter is 250. And thats pretty much the maximum for me. So either i did get something wrong about your 450 to 600 dps in Zek or you guys are simply living in a dream world... http://www.chaosengine.de/eq2/shots/ff/logs/110905/ (thats the german log thingy) Message Edited by urShak on 09-15-2005 05:31 AM __________________ much love la~ Visit our evil Guild Feral Fires (Valor) Ratzfatz(kaputt) - Warlock

09-13-2005, 02:28 AM	#34
Moonspark Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 105	Monolith?! That was the #2 guild on my eq1 server under blades of wrath, the very VERY #2 guild

09-14-2005, 09:34 PM	#36
Moonspark Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 105	On beta 60 on live 20% from 51. Been 50 since february.

09-15-2005, 07:21 PM	#38
papabear0 Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 54	__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ____ urShak wrote: whatever you guys are posting here ... about 450 to 600 dps is simply bull ... i am one of three warlocks of the german top raiding guild Feral Fires, we did underworldsummoner a few times, and except for you guys telling us stuff out of the blue, i will post a (sadly german) parsed file. Esmeroth and Ratzfatz are the 2 warlocks i did an absolute MAXIMUM of damage (nearly 30.000 damage within 2 minutes) because i did not need to care about agro. So my dps vs that single encounter is 250. And thats pretty much the maximum for me. So either i did get something wrong about your 450 to 600 dps in Zek or you guys are simply living in a dream world... http://www.chaosengine.de/eq2/shots/ff/logs/110905/ (thats the german log thingy) Message Edited by urShak on 09-15-200505:31 AM much love la~ Visit our evil Guild Feral Fires (Valor) Ratzfatz(kaputt) - Warlock __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __ warlocks in my guild prior to the combat changes can go up to 600+ in zek and ant epics, 400+ when they slacking. we are unable to continue to raid these zones because everyone is too busy exploring the new expansion. i would like to go back and see what they (and the other classes) can do now. if your only doing around 250 every encounter, maybe you should ask the others how they are doing it instead of calling BS.

09-16-2005, 10:43 AM	#39
urShak Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 156	living in a dream world do you? what i tried to explain is: 250 is quite much of the most damage you can do vs a single raid encounter ... i havent been talking of green con grps of 5mobs ... we all know about AE spells easily raising DPS (since its ez math -> total damage / combattime-in-seconds) so whats these guys dps for real raid mobs? and where is the screenshots? logs? parsings? Proof it, kid. __________________ much love la~ Visit our evil Guild Feral Fires (Valor) Ratzfatz(kaputt) - Warlock