NDA lifted - please tell me about the AoD mercs.

Denon · 12-02-2011, 01:36 PM

Now that the NDA is lifted. Can someone explain how the mercs were in beta?

How much does it cost to purchase a L90 Merc, then how much is the hourly cost?

Are they any good?

Did anyone try a PR plat run with one and did it go good/bad?

Brook · 12-02-2011, 02:28 PM

lvl 90 merc cost 5p + 25g every half hour + he/she gets half your coin loot, up to and including what you get from a a player on pvp.

My experience with the different mercs varied, the healer mercs tend to be slow to start healing if your taking damage to fast, the cures seem to take priority and they are pretty good at taking care of detrimental effects, damage output seems ok. If you die they will rez you, but only after they kill the mob, if they can.

The guard merc couldn't hold aggro from my ranger and seemed rather soft, the pally merc however could pull aggro from me and keep it and would heal himself when needed. (liked the pally)

Warlock did some pretty good damage and worked very well with the exception that they seemed a little slow to get in the fight.

Dirge did some really good damage, but last time I played with him there was a bug that was doubling some of the stats, don't know if its been adjusted since then. Didnt really test out any more than that.

All in all I would say that the mercs are OK and for me probably the only really good thing from this expansion thats really not what they are asking (but thats another topic). Also note that there may be other adjustments made before release and this is going off what I experienced while I was messing with them.

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 02:36 PM

So the price of them was made ridicuously low, who would have thought.

If that 5P is not the cost to resummon them after you dismiss them there is an area that is going to be abused by dismissing mercs to circumvent them getting loot.

MystsofLedge12 · 12-02-2011, 02:56 PM

i get the 5p hire fee, i get hourly rates but they still eat half your loot?

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 03:07 PM

The hourly rates are far too low and they don't eat half the loot, they eat half the coin so people will be doing instances with 3 players 3 mercs and getting 2x the # of drops for players as was intended by the amount of loot the developers set up to drop in the instances.

This not including what is going to be abused as I mentioned above if the 5P plat fee is not just a 1 time thing, instead of a fee charged each time you dismiss them.

I guess the only option I have is to abuse the merc system to the fullest as I see fit, if they want to make them so trivial then so be it.

MystsofLedge12 · 12-02-2011, 03:14 PM

I misread that, they get a share of the coin..... the group i usually run with were consistently a slot short, the mercs will be nice.

GeminiStar · 12-02-2011, 03:26 PM

Stamper is my favorite so far.

Ratonga Inquisitor in East Freeport bar on the dock. He seems to heal better than the Templar and cures quickly, rezes when he can and usually about 5 sec after you die with the no rez sickness rez. He comes with group wide Tenacity, Fanatacism, etc.

I know they don't want the mercenaries to be "too good" because the bad healers will cry that they cant get groups anymore. This was actually a discussion on the beta forums so the healer spells are all adept while all the others have Expert and Master spells.

Banditman · 12-02-2011, 03:31 PM

The sad thing here is going to be that in many cases, the merc healers, even with Adept level spells, will STILL be better than some of the "less skilled" players in the game.

If you get outhealed by a merc, you're probably terrible.

Kasar · 12-02-2011, 03:34 PM

NPC's don't fall asleep when running through a dungeon so they're already better than many healers in PUGs.

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 03:36 PM

the healer spells will be changed when the players start moaning about how it isn't fair.

I'm not surpirsed the other spells are expert and masters for other classes, heck the day this goes live top tier masters will be on sale in the marketplace for $6 via research reducer potions, lol what a joke.

So the mercs are going to have expert and master spells (the experts will be changed to all be masters as well in time).

If the blowers words were true about it not really making a difference about selling masters because they were not hard to get anyway it just took time, people would have to run the mercs for X number of hours to get spell upgrades, but what he said wasn't the truth it was just so he could skirt the issue about the lie he told that players would decide on such issues through in-game polls. Instead we have a merc system that is going to be abused for coin (via dismissing merc) and loot purposes because zones will still give the same amount of loot for 3 players / 3 mercs as they do for 6 players. This is because these people don't have the foresight beyond what they can put on the SC shop in what and how it will affect the game.

Notsovilepriest · 12-02-2011, 03:40 PM

One of the rare mercs has an op temp buff with groupwide 120 potency(or cb) buff and other effects for 6 seconds but it does have a 4 min recast.

Jovie · 12-02-2011, 04:11 PM

How is 25 gp per half hour too low? I am not a power player by any means, but do people get that much in coin and vendor trash to actually cover this fee?

You can't count the stuff you put on the broker because that is hit or miss on actually selling anything.

Banditman · 12-02-2011, 04:23 PM

Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each.

Once mercs go live, everyone will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc.

Ahlana · 12-02-2011, 04:30 PM

Lempo their crit is overly low for anything DoV just FYI. So most of them will not be critting on anything in the current heroic dungeons.

They are nice at low level.. but seems at end game the only ones worthwhile are the healers to fill gaps and not be your main healer.. you will not survive (well there was a rare healer merc that cost ALOT more that was decent though)

GeminiStar · 12-02-2011, 04:31 PM

Junglelilly@Guk wrote:

How is 25 gp per half hour too low? I am not a power player by any means, but do people get that much in coin and vendor trash to actually cover this fee?
You can't count the stuff you put on the broker because that is hit or miss on actually selling anything.

One PR run or one OoA run covers you or some time.

Also someone posted about the spell levels of the mercs. You cannot upgrade the merc's spells. Healers are stuck at Adept. Yes I do agree that they should be expert or Master. Bad players are just getting away with too much these days. This would be a good way to say improve or reroll because we can make AI better than you play.

Brigh · 12-02-2011, 04:34 PM

Banditman wrote:

Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each.
Once mercs go live, everyone with good gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc.

Fixed the blanket statement.

Do merc healers heal summoner pets?

Ahlana · 12-02-2011, 04:41 PM

Brigh wrote:

Banditman wrote:
Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each.
Once mercs go live, everyone with good gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc.
Fixed the blanket statement.
Do merc healers heal summoner pets?

Unless they changed something ( I haven't checked in a week or so due to holiday stuff) no.

Brigh · 12-02-2011, 04:49 PM

So they are useless for summoners then since if your pet dies, gl to the merc keeping you up if solo.

Ahlana · 12-02-2011, 04:53 PM

Brigh wrote:

So they are useless for summoners then since if your pet dies, gl to the merc keeping you up if solo.

They did say it was something they are working on. But atm Players, not pets, are the Mercs priorities.

Jovie · 12-02-2011, 04:58 PM

That is a shame because eq1 merc healers took care of pets just fine.

Brigh · 12-02-2011, 05:04 PM

Need a check like: If player_total = 1 And player_class = summoner Then merc_healer_priority_1 = summoner_pet And merc_healer_priority_2 = player_summoner End If SMILEY

Yes I took BASIC as a kid back in the 80s and remember stuff like that.

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 05:18 PM

Brigh wrote:

Banditman wrote:
Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each.
Once mercs go live, everyone with good a few pieces of PQ gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc.
Fixed the blanket statement.
Do merc healers heal summoner pets?

There I fixed your understatement.

Also they will not have to split one iota of that money with the merc.

GeminiStar · 12-02-2011, 05:35 PM

Junglelilly@Guk wrote:

That is a shame because eq1 merc healers took care of pets just fine.

You do know the playerbase on EQ1 is alot better at the game than EQ2 also.

EQ1 did not play with you, if that game wanted to kick your butt and laugh at you it did it and you adapted to the zone or you left knowing you are not good at the game.

The merc healers in EQ1 had to be spot on the heals or nobody would touch them. They are still steps behind of EQ1 players. EQ2 mercs I wish would be better than players to make those players become better or be replaced.

**EDIT** Mercs do heal pets but as a last priority. Healer mercs seem to Cure anyone/anything > Heal player > Heal self = DPS, Heal pets.

Question I have is how will mercs work with Curses/Dots that should not be cured. :-/

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 05:45 PM

GeminiStar wrote:

You do know the playerbase on EQ1 is alot better at the game than EQ2 also.
EQ1 did not play with you, if that game wanted to kick your butt and laugh at you it did it and you adapted to the zone or you left knowing you are not good at the game.
Question I have is how will mercs work with Curses/Dots that should not be cured. :-/

EQ2 used to be much more challenging than it is now.

As for the mercs knowing what to cure and what not to cure that is a good question, and the ONLY way that it could be implemented properly on the mercs would be to do it in a fashion that if a player were to improvise a way to automate it they would be in a clear violation of the ToS.

Brigh · 12-02-2011, 05:46 PM

Lempo@Everfrost wrote:

Brigh wrote:
Banditman wrote:
Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each.
Once mercs go live, everyone with good a few pieces of PQ gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc.
Fixed the blanket statement.
Do merc healers heal summoner pets?
There I fixed your understatement.
Also they will not have to split one iota of that money with the merc.

A word such as "good" is relative and subjective, whereas "everyone" is definite, which in this case would include anyone below 85, hence my inclusion of "90" and the term "blanket statement".

You imply that only "a few pieces of PQ gear" would be enough to solo with a merc. Saying that what I said was an understatement implies that 90s with "good gear" actually would need more than "a few pieces of PQ gear", perhaps Rime instance or Drunder gear.

gourdon · 12-02-2011, 05:52 PM

How well do healer mercs heal characters in the party that haven't hired them? If there are 2 or 3, will they all heal the tank?

Lempo · 12-02-2011, 05:56 PM

Brigh wrote:

A word such as "good" is relative and subjective, whereas "everyone" is definite, which in this case would include anyone below 85, hence my inclusion of "90" and the term "blanket statement".
You imply that only "a few pieces of PQ gear" would be enough to solo with a merc. Saying that what I said was an understatement implies that 90s with "good gear" actually would need more than "a few pieces of PQ gear", perhaps Rime instance or Drunder gear.

I was simply stating that run of the mill SF gear along with a few PQ pieces would suffice, I didn't realize that more was changed in the original statement.

90 is too generic, better players in all PQ/DoV gear will be able to it sub 90 with a merc as well.

Dawnstrike · 12-02-2011, 06:01 PM

I don't know if this has been covered but can you take Mercs out in the open world? If so, how will they work on a PVP server?

Brook · 12-02-2011, 06:50 PM

They function just as they would against any other enemy mob.

GeminiStar · 12-02-2011, 06:55 PM

gourdon wrote:

How well do healer mercs heal characters in the party that haven't hired them? If there are 2 or 3, will they all heal the tank?

The merc window actually covers that. There are three options you can toggle.

Follow will make the Merc follow whoever you set them to.

Protect makes them focus on that person to heal or basicly protect for non healer mercs. This is not to say they will not heal others, they just set the highest priority to the person you set. No pets are not included.

Assist is more for DPS mercs, this obviously makes them target the person who place as assist.

12-02-2011, 01:36 PM	#1
Denon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 147	Now that the NDA is lifted. Can someone explain how the mercs were in beta? How much does it cost to purchase a L90 Merc, then how much is the hourly cost? Are they any good? Did anyone try a PR plat run with one and did it go good/bad? __________________ ----------------------- [ Permafrost Server] ----------------- Thomm ... Qeynos 92/320 Troubador, 92 Carpenter, T9 (450) Transmuter Denon ..... Qeynos 90/320 Warden, 90 Tailor Draziw ..... Freeport 92/320 Wizard, 90 Sage Jacuzzi .... Freeport 92/320 Necromancer, 90 Woodworker Steab ...... Qeynos 92/320 Guardian, 90 Armorer, T9 (450) Tinker ---------------------------------------------------------------- .....(-.-).....

12-02-2011, 02:28 PM	#2
Brook Tester Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336	lvl 90 merc cost 5p + 25g every half hour + he/she gets half your coin loot, up to and including what you get from a a player on pvp. My experience with the different mercs varied, the healer mercs tend to be slow to start healing if your taking damage to fast, the cures seem to take priority and they are pretty good at taking care of detrimental effects, damage output seems ok. If you die they will rez you, but only after they kill the mob, if they can. The guard merc couldn't hold aggro from my ranger and seemed rather soft, the pally merc however could pull aggro from me and keep it and would heal himself when needed. (liked the pally) Warlock did some pretty good damage and worked very well with the exception that they seemed a little slow to get in the fight. Dirge did some really good damage, but last time I played with him there was a bug that was doubling some of the stats, don't know if its been adjusted since then. Didnt really test out any more than that. All in all I would say that the mercs are OK and for me probably the only really good thing from this expansion thats really not what they are asking (but thats another topic). Also note that there may be other adjustments made before release and this is going off what I experienced while I was messing with them. __________________ But seriously, you're the kind of guy that zones into gears without a healer and spends the whole match talking about the fact there isn't a healer instead of contributing. I hate you, and everyone like you that plays this game. Please spend less time whining and more time winning, it contributes to the general growth of the game and makes gameplay more enjoyable for all.

12-02-2011, 02:36 PM	#3
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	So the price of them was made ridicuously low, who would have thought. If that 5P is not the cost to resummon them after you dismiss them there is an area that is going to be abused by dismissing mercs to circumvent them getting loot. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 02:56 PM	#4
MystsofLedge12 Lord Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 189	i get the 5p hire fee, i get hourly rates but they still eat half your loot? __________________ Galatians 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

12-02-2011, 03:07 PM	#5
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	The hourly rates are far too low and they don't eat half the loot, they eat half the coin so people will be doing instances with 3 players 3 mercs and getting 2x the # of drops for players as was intended by the amount of loot the developers set up to drop in the instances. This not including what is going to be abused as I mentioned above if the 5P plat fee is not just a 1 time thing, instead of a fee charged each time you dismiss them. I guess the only option I have is to abuse the merc system to the fullest as I see fit, if they want to make them so trivial then so be it. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 03:14 PM	#6
MystsofLedge12 Lord Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 189	I misread that, they get a share of the coin..... the group i usually run with were consistently a slot short, the mercs will be nice. __________________ Galatians 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

12-02-2011, 03:26 PM	#7
GeminiStar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Posts: 75	Stamper is my favorite so far. Ratonga Inquisitor in East Freeport bar on the dock. He seems to heal better than the Templar and cures quickly, rezes when he can and usually about 5 sec after you die with the no rez sickness rez. He comes with group wide Tenacity, Fanatacism, etc. I know they don't want the mercenaries to be "too good" because the bad healers will cry that they cant get groups anymore. This was actually a discussion on the beta forums so the healer spells are all adept while all the others have Expert and Master spells.

12-02-2011, 03:31 PM	#8
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	The sad thing here is going to be that in many cases, the merc healers, even with Adept level spells, will STILL be better than some of the "less skilled" players in the game. If you get outhealed by a merc, you're probably terrible. __________________

12-02-2011, 03:34 PM	#9
Kasar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 540	NPC's don't fall asleep when running through a dungeon so they're already better than many healers in PUGs.

12-02-2011, 03:36 PM	#10
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	the healer spells will be changed when the players start moaning about how it isn't fair. I'm not surpirsed the other spells are expert and masters for other classes, heck the day this goes live top tier masters will be on sale in the marketplace for $6 via research reducer potions, lol what a joke. So the mercs are going to have expert and master spells (the experts will be changed to all be masters as well in time). If the blowers words were true about it not really making a difference about selling masters because they were not hard to get anyway it just took time, people would have to run the mercs for X number of hours to get spell upgrades, but what he said wasn't the truth it was just so he could skirt the issue about the lie he told that players would decide on such issues through in-game polls. Instead we have a merc system that is going to be abused for coin (via dismissing merc) and loot purposes because zones will still give the same amount of loot for 3 players / 3 mercs as they do for 6 players. This is because these people don't have the foresight beyond what they can put on the SC shop in what and how it will affect the game. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 03:40 PM	#11
Notsovilepriest Server: Nagafen Guild: Ill Gotten Gain Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,184	One of the rare mercs has an op temp buff with groupwide 120 potency(or cb) buff and other effects for 6 seconds but it does have a 4 min recast. __________________

12-02-2011, 04:11 PM	#12
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	How is 25 gp per half hour too low? I am not a power player by any means, but do people get that much in coin and vendor trash to actually cover this fee? You can't count the stuff you put on the broker because that is hit or miss on actually selling anything.

12-02-2011, 04:23 PM	#13
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each. Once mercs go live, everyone will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc. __________________

12-02-2011, 04:30 PM	#14
Ahlana Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,238	Lempo their crit is overly low for anything DoV just FYI. So most of them will not be critting on anything in the current heroic dungeons. They are nice at low level.. but seems at end game the only ones worthwhile are the healers to fill gaps and not be your main healer.. you will not survive (well there was a rare healer merc that cost ALOT more that was decent though) __________________

12-02-2011, 04:31 PM	#15
GeminiStar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Posts: 75	Junglelilly@Guk wrote: How is 25 gp per half hour too low? I am not a power player by any means, but do people get that much in coin and vendor trash to actually cover this fee? You can't count the stuff you put on the broker because that is hit or miss on actually selling anything. One PR run or one OoA run covers you or some time. Also someone posted about the spell levels of the mercs. You cannot upgrade the merc's spells. Healers are stuck at Adept. Yes I do agree that they should be expert or Master. Bad players are just getting away with too much these days. This would be a good way to say improve or reroll because we can make AI better than you play.

12-02-2011, 04:34 PM	#16
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Banditman wrote: Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each. Once mercs go live, everyone with good gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc. Fixed the blanket statement. Do merc healers heal summoner pets? __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

12-02-2011, 04:41 PM	#17
Ahlana Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,238	Brigh wrote: Banditman wrote: Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each. Once mercs go live, everyone with good gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc. Fixed the blanket statement. Do merc healers heal summoner pets? Unless they changed something ( I haven't checked in a week or so due to holiday stuff) no. __________________

12-02-2011, 04:49 PM	#18
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	So they are useless for summoners then since if your pet dies, gl to the merc keeping you up if solo. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

12-02-2011, 04:53 PM	#19
Ahlana Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,238	Brigh wrote: So they are useless for summoners then since if your pet dies, gl to the merc keeping you up if solo. They did say it was something they are working on. But atm Players, not pets, are the Mercs priorities. __________________

12-02-2011, 04:58 PM	#20
Jovie Server: Guk Can't decide... Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 880	That is a shame because eq1 merc healers took care of pets just fine.

12-02-2011, 05:04 PM	#21
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Need a check like: If player_total = 1 And player_class = summoner Then merc_healer_priority_1 = summoner_pet And merc_healer_priority_2 = player_summoner End If Yes I took BASIC as a kid back in the 80s and remember stuff like that. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

12-02-2011, 05:18 PM	#22
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	Brigh wrote: Banditman wrote: Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each. Once mercs go live, everyone with good a few pieces of PQ gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc. Fixed the blanket statement. Do merc healers heal summoner pets? There I fixed your understatement. Also they will not have to split one iota of that money with the merc. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 05:35 PM	#23
GeminiStar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Posts: 75	Junglelilly@Guk wrote: That is a shame because eq1 merc healers took care of pets just fine. You do know the playerbase on EQ1 is alot better at the game than EQ2 also. EQ1 did not play with you, if that game wanted to kick your butt and laugh at you it did it and you adapted to the zone or you left knowing you are not good at the game. The merc healers in EQ1 had to be spot on the heals or nobody would touch them. They are still steps behind of EQ1 players. EQ2 mercs I wish would be better than players to make those players become better or be replaced. EDIT Mercs do heal pets but as a last priority. Healer mercs seem to Cure anyone/anything > Heal player > Heal self = DPS, Heal pets. Question I have is how will mercs work with Curses/Dots that should not be cured. :-/

12-02-2011, 05:45 PM	#24
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	GeminiStar wrote: You do know the playerbase on EQ1 is alot better at the game than EQ2 also. EQ1 did not play with you, if that game wanted to kick your butt and laugh at you it did it and you adapted to the zone or you left knowing you are not good at the game. Question I have is how will mercs work with Curses/Dots that should not be cured. :-/ EQ2 used to be much more challenging than it is now. As for the mercs knowing what to cure and what not to cure that is a good question, and the ONLY way that it could be implemented properly on the mercs would be to do it in a fashion that if a player were to improvise a way to automate it they would be in a clear violation of the ToS. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 05:46 PM	#25
Brigh Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,159	Lempo@Everfrost wrote: Brigh wrote: Banditman wrote: Even as far back as RoK, there are vendor trash items worth 25g that drop not infrequently if you are killing at a decent clip. I've seen a few items in DoV that are nothing but vendor crap which sell for over a plat each. Once mercs go live, everyone with good a few pieces of PQ gear at 90 will have the ability to solo PR and walk out with a nice chunk of plat even after paying the merc. Fixed the blanket statement. Do merc healers heal summoner pets? There I fixed your understatement. Also they will not have to split one iota of that money with the merc. A word such as "good" is relative and subjective, whereas "everyone" is definite, which in this case would include anyone below 85, hence my inclusion of "90" and the term "blanket statement". You imply that only "a few pieces of PQ gear" would be enough to solo with a merc. Saying that what I said was an understatement implies that 90s with "good gear" actually would need more than "a few pieces of PQ gear", perhaps Rime instance or Drunder gear. __________________ Anything you can achieve through hard work, you can also just buy. -Stephen Colbert CoD3 double XP Rank Up promotion lesson for kids

12-02-2011, 05:52 PM	#26
gourdon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 632	How well do healer mercs heal characters in the party that haven't hired them? If there are 2 or 3, will they all heal the tank? __________________

12-02-2011, 05:56 PM	#27
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	Brigh wrote: A word such as "good" is relative and subjective, whereas "everyone" is definite, which in this case would include anyone below 85, hence my inclusion of "90" and the term "blanket statement". You imply that only "a few pieces of PQ gear" would be enough to solo with a merc. Saying that what I said was an understatement implies that 90s with "good gear" actually would need more than "a few pieces of PQ gear", perhaps Rime instance or Drunder gear. I was simply stating that run of the mill SF gear along with a few PQ pieces would suffice, I didn't realize that more was changed in the original statement. 90 is too generic, better players in all PQ/DoV gear will be able to it sub 90 with a merc as well. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

12-02-2011, 06:01 PM	#28
Dawnstrike Lord Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 294	I don't know if this has been covered but can you take Mercs out in the open world? If so, how will they work on a PVP server? __________________ Antonia Bayle: Cheribomb, Dawnstrike, Bonnfire, Wmdee, Bonfury, Bonkitty Cheribomb's Design Portal Hub The New Halas Express The Tangle Island Resort The Shimmering Serpent Mens Lounge - Personal Library A Frostfell Carol - Opera House Dawnstrike's Manors of Erollisi Home Dawnstrike's Maj Dul Suite Nagafen: Elinor Elinor's Freeblood Lair Savne's Maj Dul Suite & Graveshadow's Grand Hall

12-02-2011, 06:50 PM	#29
Brook Tester Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,336	They function just as they would against any other enemy mob. __________________ But seriously, you're the kind of guy that zones into gears without a healer and spends the whole match talking about the fact there isn't a healer instead of contributing. I hate you, and everyone like you that plays this game. Please spend less time whining and more time winning, it contributes to the general growth of the game and makes gameplay more enjoyable for all.

12-02-2011, 06:55 PM	#30
GeminiStar Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Posts: 75	gourdon wrote: How well do healer mercs heal characters in the party that haven't hired them? If there are 2 or 3, will they all heal the tank? The merc window actually covers that. There are three options you can toggle. Follow will make the Merc follow whoever you set them to. Protect makes them focus on that person to heal or basicly protect for non healer mercs. This is not to say they will not heal others, they just set the highest priority to the person you set. No pets are not included. Assist is more for DPS mercs, this obviously makes them target the person who place as assist.