Any other fury's not happy with the new stuff

[Princess Ariel]

Hi

 

Okay i don't like to complain but i am not happy with the changes at all.  I lost 2 good heal spells i use all the time and i lost 2 of my damage spells that i use all the time.  The new spell they did give us is fine but when i up graded my triats i picked chill master 2 and  they are the same spell so you can't use one while you wait for the other to charge up.  Also does it seem like they are taking forever to charge?  I lost one of my buffs.  I can't solo hardly at all.  I like to play alot solo and play in groups when my friends are on or with large things and now i can't even solo what i use to solo.  Why is nothing greyed out?  Why are bears in TS at the start of the level now herioc?  Also is anyone else having problems logging from one zone to another and it is not my internet because i am dsl.

 

Thanks

Areil

[kell_the_kyuss]

Patience Lioness Pack Mate, it will get better.   Everything revolves around upgrades now.  (rumored zoning lag is about buffs being on person). 

[Princess Ariel]

I hope it gets better because i am on the verge of quiting

I also noticed that sony is locking eveyone that is complaining.

 

I guess we are not titled to our opion or giving them idea's to fix the problem

Thanks

Areil

[Lich_Ekil]

Im not happy at all, my fury is on mothballs now and if they nerf my necro any more im goin to go back playing WoW full time again and cancell this account and all other sony accounts for good.

[DrainPipeLP]

I'm not happy either -- What I liked about the fury (and why I've been developing him) is that it seemed a nice balance between healing magic and combat ability.   90% of my play time is solo.    I feel these changes have seriously curtailed his ability to deal damage in combat.  Strike of Thunder, Chill etc. are all well and good, but those drain my power pretty fast.  The damage/attack procs on Peerless Predator, Savagery, Predatory Salve and Ferocity of the Eel, and the dps buff from Fleshweave have saved my bacon many a time in the past.   But now I have a ton of redundant heal spells [e.g. minor healing, healing, minor arch healing, improved arch healing, nature's salve and predatory salve are the same except for an incremental improvement]. They've castrated my lion and pigeonholed him into a second string healer.

[Rumbler]

The game is a little harder for everyone. Forget soloing heroics - it was never meant to be. The game in general was too easy before. Personally I like the changes and the new level of challenge.

 

We get some extra heals as we level up though at 50 I do think we are a bit underpowered on healing.

 

The new city is a very dangerous place, expecially after you have picked your faction - expect to die a lot if you are not careful or with a group.

[WasFycksir]

I just posted a longer answer in another thread so I won't repeat myself here.  But the revamp is bad imo, see specifics in the other thread.

[kcirrot]

Well besides doing three times as much damage (when I can log in :smileymad: ), my heals being legitimate upgrades, my having more HP, more WIS, more AGI, more STA and MUCH more INT than yesterday, better buffs, not having to spam Savagery on all the melee people, being able to see clearly in the water, my debuff making spell and weapons hit more often, I don't see anything good about the combat revamp.

:smileytongue:

Message Edited by kcirrot on 09-13-2005 07:36 PM

[THteampink]

I love the patch, and am having the time of my life.  At the risk of sounding like a know it all, play with your spells a bit and im sure you will begin to come around.  Using porcupine and two sets of HOTs = the win.

[Rumbler]

I do hate the changes to invis though. One concentration buff I could handle but not 3. Making it 3 achieves nothing other tham forcing us to remove and recast our buffs over and over.

[Princess Ariel]

I am so glad to know i am not the only one not happy.  What i am most disappointed in is that fact they screwed with our damage spells.  I could live with what they did to the heal spells, i could even maybe get use to the buff situation but the damage thing is just wrong.  I picked fury because not only could you heal yourself but you could do alot a damage soloing.  I am hoping that sony will read this and take our opionions to heart (does anyone know where u can email coustomer support with our opinions) not that they will.  At least we didn't get hit as bad as some other races but it makes me worry about what happens to us in the future. 

 

Once again thanks for everyone's opinion even if it isn't the same as mine.  I look forward to more post

Areil

[Hyru]

I screamed till I finally gave up in the development forums. None cared at SOE to listen. Now the nightmare comes true. I am one of the people who returned when ya added more solo content, and will probably be leaving now............EQ II team, good work on ruining a good thing that was broken, then you fixed, then broke again. /sigh

[IveDefected]

what do you mean "what they did to our damage spells"? im lvl 50 and i do over 1k damage now from a single starburst (or whatever the higher one is ) as far as power drian , i dunno ifi ts just me but i have no trouble soloing and staying above 40% at the end of most fights yes im a little mad about the heal drop i think adding at least one more heal line would fill us out perfectly and im honestly confused about fae flames now (s it a damage proc? is it an attack ? ) and where did toxic quills go ? all those things considered i enjoyed the heck out of my class so far and i think that SoE although being a bit cryptic with what they are telling us is doing a fine job. i just say give it time because this is by no means the end of their tweaking ...i have faith

[Ryoh]

All I have to say is my Master I heal spell "Bloom" does 1/3 of the healing it once did with an extra second added to the reuse timer... 1/3!!!!!!! God [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] it!

[spammy]

disappointed also.... ok, so we used to be able to stack spells of the same spell-line before, and i agree that these things should be fixed. but, for 1 thing, i totally screwed up my respec due to those changes... and now i know im missing nuke power somewhere, since smite, chill and cyclone (all of different spell - lines) now use the same recast timer! which makes it hard to use my HO in battle now, because i have to cast cyclone, and then wait for the re-use timer to come up to cast chill.

 

and another thing, i counted up all my WIS granted from spells adn equipment and got 116+ WIS... i look in my persona window, and see i have 69 WIS. hmmmm... and arent we granted extra base WIS for being a preist and all?

 

i do agree though, combat has been a little more fun. not the challenging part of it though... SOE's idea of a challenge is to increase the interruption and resisted rates, which doesnt make it more fun, it just makes it more tedious.

Message Edited by spammy on 09-13-2005 08:17 PM

[kell_the_kyuss]

It does get better once your properly outfitted and with some levels. I soloed a few heroic blue^^'s earlier today.  Also went through the SP arena on easy mode and it was cake.   2200 pt HO's is not a joke, and very possible.  Yes we lost our procs.   With a master 2 regen and a master 1 ferine salve we still heal fine.  Yes im very happy im not a bruiser, defiler, illusionist, mystic right now.  Furies made out of this ok on the High/Top end.  So theres light at the end of the tunnel.  Its all about upgrades now. 

[kell_the_kyuss]

"which makes it hard to use my HO in battle now, because i have to cast cyclone, and then wait for the re-use timer to come up to cast chill." use a swarm, nuke, master smite, or aoe (if possible).  HO, swarm/cold dot -- cast a regen, then HO a lightning/aoe As for stats I have 190 agi, 169 wis and 180 int.  (had 89 int yesterday).  I havent changed a thing.  Yes im bored, they cant find my character at moment...

[IveDefected]

yeah im using my AoE star thingy as my mian attack now with storm as second blast ...i am starting HOs with either whirlwind or Dooming swarm but thats all i have for attacks 

[Surething]

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kcirrot wrote:

being able to see clearly in the water,

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Now I feel really gypped; I read the descriptiion on ferocity of eel (allows breathing under water and clear vision under water) - darned spell - I can breath underwater ok - but still foggy vision.  Now I find out it's just me that can't see, ack!

[apwyork]

Well, my level 38 fury is staying out of the game now until something gets changed.  Sure, my main attack spell got a nice boost, the group attack spell got a real nice boost, but I'm a PRIEST! My best heal now is 300 points!  At 38, healing 300 points is like spitting on the injuries since everything hits for more than 300 damage (could go up if I upgrade that spell but at this point it's a waste since all my adept heals got nerfed down to the 100 point range).  I can kill level 31 solo monster just fine But when I tried a group of 4 level 33 who con as an easy kill, I got stomped so bad it wasnt funny.  I couldn't even kill 1 before I had to run like hell since I couldn't even heal enough to keep fighting let alone cast any attack spells.  I'm going to go check out the rest of my char's and if what I hear about them is true, I'll be looking for another game

[troodon311]

I haven't gotten to group yet but I was soloing yellow scorpians and fire thingees in Pillars of Flame just fine earlier, before my server's hamster had a heart attack.  I don't see any problem with what they've done to Furies.

I'm more concerned with my SK losing his skelly form :smileyhappy:

[Goozman]

Don't be fooled by your nuke doing a bigger number, with the longer recasts and loss of all procs, the damage isnt killer. It's not the end of the world, though. And I'm sure either they'll lower the Strike recast timer or increase our heals eventually. We aren't really gimped but we arent powerhouses either

[Tige]

As a lev 50 Fury and also Beta tested up to level 58 I feel the changes are good. Wasn't sure how things will be at 50 since I was used to being at level 58. After my respec I have 200 more power. My Strike Spell at Adept III can do over 1,000 dmg and at level 51 we get a new Nuke that can do up to 1700 points. Also my Master I Star Burst can do over 1,400 point AE, nice . You just need to get your INT close to 200 which is pretty easy with us with the right equipment.

The only thing I do not like is the Invis. 3 con slots to use PLUS at rudce speed. At level 50 the group invis was reduced down to 32% I believe, talk about sloooooow! I can see maybe slowing it down, but also at 3 con slots??? I also don't like the fact that our Chill spell is on the same timer with Whirlwind. Doing solo HO's kinda now sucks cause there isn't much to use to get them off cause you are waiting for a spell to recharge. Yes I know you can use Fae Flames for an HO but if you use it to finish it, I never see any dmg done.

Also here is what I do not understand. Lots of heales are now on the same time, ok no problem there, to a point. But why would Light Heal be a 4 sec recast time but if you cast Ferine Elixer it takes 6 sec and all other heals on the line take just as long?

At 50 you are pretty much limited to 3 single target heals. But we do get another heal line down the road making it 4 single target heals.

Do not expect to take on any ^ ^ ^ up's. Do not even attempt it. When I was level 58 in Beta with close to 4,000 power, I could not kill a Green Lev 49 ^ ^ ^. It hit to hard and I spent most of my power healing my self. You are talking alomst a 10 level difference. I don't see how a mob that is almost 10 level lower than me can kill me but I be lucky to lad a hit on a mob 10 levels above me.

Soloers, you are better off with the even cons or all down arrows. If you can find any ^ up's or ^ ^ you can take them, base on your play style. ^ up's you should be able to take down but ^ ^ may be tuff for some.

Key here to you all, upgrade your spells as high as you can get them. I havn't solo much yet, but will next week. Grouping is so easy now with the right crew in that you don't even need to heal in most cases. Feel the spells out and get used to them. I know it may take some of you o get used of the changes but once you do get used to them, you will find you can be more efficent with your spells.

 

Message Edited by Tigerj on 09-14-2005 03:12 AM

[HBP]

My 36 Fury had 2 good healing spells that healed for around 570 hps a piece.  One of the spells was Wildling Elixir and the other spell was called Sproutmore something (can't recall the name...it was one of the class specific rewards you got from the green plus sign). Both of these spells were yellow.  Now I still have Wildling Elixir but the next best healing spell I have is Predatory Salve, which heals for like 200hp.  And all the regrowth spells share the same timer.  Was hoping that they would make them stackable.  OVerall not really happy with the changes as of now.  Hopefully they will get better.  I just feel totally useless as a healer now. 

[Zar]

Is it just me or does it seem the majority of Furies posting "I like the changes" are 50+? Go start a level one priest and see what the rest of us under 50 are dealing with. You are already past the "relearnig" phase, we, on the other hand are getting trashed.

[troodon311]

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Zaree wrote:
You are already past the "relearnig" phase

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How?  The changes are as new to me as anyone.  If anything, I have more play time to try and "unlearn" int he process of relearning.

Message Edited by troodon311 on 09-14-2005 01:25 AM

[lmhotep]

God stop whining and start playing for once.

 

After i did my respec i tested alot and came to the conclusion that i can now say im a real fury!

I heal like a bot now meaning i can heal better then i did before (im currently L4 and especialy

ALOT faster.

My nukes do way more damage and yes ive got less damage spells now but as ive tested with some

solo mobs i stil do alot more damage then before.

 

Everything has changed wich is a thing that needs to be accepted so the mobs you used to kill before

are different now.

Just try harclave for a while and see how easy you can rip through those mobs wich is a good indication

of what you can do wity your fury.

[wasub]

>>Using porcupine and two sets of HOTs = the win. Sorry 2* HOT @ lvl 50? I have Wildbloodflow, what is the second? are you refering to group regen owl's restoration? BTW i love the changes. The only 2 things im worried about but cant confirm yet is out mana loss (some classes get nice regen and efficiency) and no wards. Its [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] hard to keep a warlock alive if he gets agro when solo healer in a group. Im also not happy about our regens not stacking for raids. Our buffs are awesome and our Damage output is very nice also and heals are nice and snappy. All up it is a harder game but from a group perspective it is much more fun now as im actually not a bad healer. I hope raiding turns out to be just as fun i think it might as our buffs are going to be needed. Nice work.

[vochore]

i am personaly [Removed for Content] at what they did to my fury,i spent most of last night with a grp"and yes we had a inquisitor in grp" and i spent almost the entire 2 hrs chain healing with all 3 of my spells to keep the tank up. and taking away the mit. parts of some of our buffs hurt a lot to. i curently have a 26 ranger  that if things dodnt start looking up soon i will most likly be leveling up and mothballing my fury.

[Chabisu]

My Fury is level 47 and I love the changes they made to her. With very small exceptions, it was massively positive for the class.Perhaps at the lower end it has changed for the worst some, but if you can get over that hump the higher end is better than it has ever been.