I have Lethal

shirka · 09-20-2006, 01:10 PM

I have Lethal Abolishment at master 1 (dispells 100 lvls off... etc) What I want to know: how many lvls dispells Abolishment at adpt 3? Is it worth the moonstone?

Dani · 09-20-2006, 01:24 PM

adept 3 =109

TehDrunkenFury · 09-20-2006, 07:01 PM

Higher levels of it (ad1->m1) also remove more then one at a time. So although your previous is M1, it still wont have the "umph" versus lvl75 mobs that your ad3 version of the next one will.

Asp728 · 09-20-2006, 07:43 PM

I have the Master 1 version of Abolishment. If I remember correctly, it cures 124 levels of heat, cold, poison and disease. It was given to me by a guildmate and it has proved to be a very useful spell. Another good note, as Ossot stated, it cures more than 1 at a time (sometimes). If you raid, it will be a lifesaver at times.

Tige · 09-20-2006, 10:01 PM

Asp728 wrote:
I have the Master 1 version of Abolishment. If I remember correctly, it cures 124 levels of heat, cold, poison and disease. It was given to me by a guildmate and it has proved to be a very useful spell. Another good note, as Ossot stated, it cures more than 1 at a time (sometimes). If you raid, it will be a lifesaver at times.

Don't even waste your time on the lev 70 spell and here is why I say this.

Lev. 56 Lethal uses 306 Power. Adept III does 87 levels and Master 1 does 100 levels

Lev. 70 Abolishment uses 380 power. Master I does 124 levels. Don't know about Adept III

So far in the game I have found nothing that the lev. 56 Adpet III version can not cure. This even includes Tarinax AE poision, which is require 85 levels I been told. I have always cured his AE's and any other mobs AE's with my lev 56 Adept III.

Unless one can show me a Mob that can't be cured with an Adpet III lev 56, why waste more power on a higher spell where the lower one does the same thing? Even best, if you go the Stamina line in AA's and put 5 points in the 2nd Tier you now have another Cure Spell at the same level pretty much as the Lev 56 Adpet III.

As a healer where I may be doing lots of cures, I rather save that 74 power for heals instead of wasteing it using a cure that an Adept III can do.

Since you have the Master I of it, you will be not needed an upgrade for it for a while unless they add some very tuff raid mod that has a high level of AE. So far, I haven't seen it for most, if not all the T7 raid mobs.

If I am wrong, please show me what mob can not cure with the lev 56 Adpet III or Master I of that spell then, cause I sure haven't seen it yet then.

Tige · 09-20-2006, 10:10 PM

OssotSromo wrote:
Higher levels of it (ad1->m1) also remove more then one at a time.

So although your previous is M1, it still wont have the "umph" versus lvl75 mobs that your ad3 version of the next one will.

Define what you mean by Umpth? The Lev 56. cause cure the whole group with multi dots for example. Everyone can have a poision and a cold dot on them and they all be wiped out.

Now if you are refering to stacks, say like a group had the number 8 on the posion icon, then I can see where it may take 2 off at a time. But really, how offten or what mob casts a double AE where you must do 2 group cures? Tarinax doesn't do this and he is lev. 75, he only does 1 level posion dot on ya.

If you are allowing an AE dot get on your group mutiple times before you cure it, you may want to speed up your clicking some :smileywink:.

Cale2281 · 09-24-2006, 01:20 AM

Lethal is imo better than Abolishment unless for some reason Abolishment "crits" more often which I don't know about and there is no real way to study that.Both spells have the potential to remove multiple "effects" on the group. I've had lethal remove two at once in t7 raids so it can't just be the lvl 70 spell. It seems though that the Healer claymore has a bigger chance of curing the group than either of these spells have of curing mulitple effects. IMO it seems a waste of 80 power for a group cure if no mob in the game has an effect that is higher than 100. At this point in the game, Abolishment M1 is only better than Lethal M1 if you are fighting a mob that casts effects 62. Then it will always remove multiple effects at one time whereas Lethal will not. I don't fight many of those mobs anymore and certainly none where it is vital that I cure quickly.

Gertack_v2 · 09-25-2006, 01:09 AM

My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine.

EQ2Playa432 · 09-25-2006, 03:59 AM

Gertack wrote:My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine.

shh dont say that or it will get nerfed!

quetzaqotl · 09-25-2006, 03:28 PM

EQ2Playa432 wrote:

Gertack wrote:
My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine.

shh dont say that or it will get nerfed!

OMG what will be next maddening swarm or our lion form getting nerfed oh noes!!!!

Message Edited by quetzaqotl on 09-25-2006 01:28 PM

09-20-2006, 01:10 PM	#1
shirka Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	I have Lethal Abolishment at master 1 (dispells 100 lvls off... etc) What I want to know: how many lvls dispells Abolishment at adpt 3? Is it worth the moonstone? __________________

09-20-2006, 10:01 PM	#5
Tige General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 110	Asp728 wrote: I have the Master 1 version of Abolishment. If I remember correctly, it cures 124 levels of heat, cold, poison and disease. It was given to me by a guildmate and it has proved to be a very useful spell. Another good note, as Ossot stated, it cures more than 1 at a time (sometimes). If you raid, it will be a lifesaver at times. Don't even waste your time on the lev 70 spell and here is why I say this. Lev. 56 Lethal uses 306 Power. Adept III does 87 levels and Master 1 does 100 levels Lev. 70 Abolishment uses 380 power. Master I does 124 levels. Don't know about Adept III So far in the game I have found nothing that the lev. 56 Adpet III version can not cure. This even includes Tarinax AE poision, which is require 85 levels I been told. I have always cured his AE's and any other mobs AE's with my lev 56 Adept III. Unless one can show me a Mob that can't be cured with an Adpet III lev 56, why waste more power on a higher spell where the lower one does the same thing? Even best, if you go the Stamina line in AA's and put 5 points in the 2nd Tier you now have another Cure Spell at the same level pretty much as the Lev 56 Adpet III. As a healer where I may be doing lots of cures, I rather save that 74 power for heals instead of wasteing it using a cure that an Adept III can do. Since you have the Master I of it, you will be not needed an upgrade for it for a while unless they add some very tuff raid mod that has a high level of AE. So far, I haven't seen it for most, if not all the T7 raid mobs. If I am wrong, please show me what mob can not cure with the lev 56 Adpet III or Master I of that spell then, cause I sure haven't seen it yet then.

09-20-2006, 10:10 PM	#6
Tige General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 110	OssotSromo wrote: Higher levels of it (ad1->m1) also remove more then one at a time. So although your previous is M1, it still wont have the "umph" versus lvl75 mobs that your ad3 version of the next one will. Define what you mean by Umpth? The Lev 56. cause cure the whole group with multi dots for example. Everyone can have a poision and a cold dot on them and they all be wiped out. Now if you are refering to stacks, say like a group had the number 8 on the posion icon, then I can see where it may take 2 off at a time. But really, how offten or what mob casts a double AE where you must do 2 group cures? Tarinax doesn't do this and he is lev. 75, he only does 1 level posion dot on ya. If you are allowing an AE dot get on your group mutiple times before you cure it, you may want to speed up your clicking some :smileywink:.

09-25-2006, 03:28 PM	#10
quetzaqotl Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,336	EQ2Playa432 wrote: Gertack wrote: My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine. shh dont say that or it will get nerfed! OMG what will be next maddening swarm or our lion form getting nerfed oh noes!!!! Message Edited by quetzaqotl on 09-25-2006 01:28 PM __________________

09-20-2006, 01:24 PM	#2
Dani Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8	adept 3 =109

09-20-2006, 07:01 PM	#3
TehDrunkenFury Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 125	Higher levels of it (ad1->m1) also remove more then one at a time. So although your previous is M1, it still wont have the "umph" versus lvl75 mobs that your ad3 version of the next one will.

09-20-2006, 07:43 PM	#4
Asp728 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 306	I have the Master 1 version of Abolishment. If I remember correctly, it cures 124 levels of heat, cold, poison and disease. It was given to me by a guildmate and it has proved to be a very useful spell. Another good note, as Ossot stated, it cures more than 1 at a time (sometimes). If you raid, it will be a lifesaver at times.

09-24-2006, 01:20 AM	#7
Cale2281 Lord Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 102	Lethal is imo better than Abolishment unless for some reason Abolishment "crits" more often which I don't know about and there is no real way to study that.Both spells have the potential to remove multiple "effects" on the group. I've had lethal remove two at once in t7 raids so it can't just be the lvl 70 spell. It seems though that the Healer claymore has a bigger chance of curing the group than either of these spells have of curing mulitple effects. IMO it seems a waste of 80 power for a group cure if no mob in the game has an effect that is higher than 100. At this point in the game, Abolishment M1 is only better than Lethal M1 if you are fighting a mob that casts effects 62. Then it will always remove multiple effects at one time whereas Lethal will not. I don't fight many of those mobs anymore and certainly none where it is vital that I cure quickly.

09-25-2006, 01:09 AM	#8
Gertack_v2 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 256	My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine.

09-25-2006, 03:59 AM	#9
EQ2Playa432 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 966	Gertack wrote:My Lethal M1 still cures multiple effects for me and as a bonus I can cast it on the run without it interrupting like Abolishment does, and it costs less power. I use it on Tarinax and everything else just fine. shh dont say that or it will get nerfed!