Another dumb question..

Meskin · 12-13-2006, 05:20 AM

Look at my history, I will always be a n00b. SMILEY

When we talk about pally taunts we are just talking about our hate increasing spells (they also reduce mitigation too, but the spells that draw aggo). I know in old EQ you had to have a /taunt button set up to increase a taunt skill. That isn't the case here is it? Please tell me I have not been this out of it for this long.

Vadiman

Wulfborne · 12-13-2006, 10:00 AM

No /taunt macro required. Your 'taunt' abilities will appear in your knowledge book, just like all your other spells and combat arts. All you have to do is push that icon button just like casting anything else. SMILEY

You have 2 taunts (3 if you count goading gesture, but it's on the same timer as your single target, so we won't count that). One is single target, and one is encounter ae. The encounter ae one decreases resistance to divine damage spells. None of your taunts decrease the mob's mitigation. Some people also consider our shield bash a taunt as well, just because it has extra aggro tacked onto the ability besides just the damage done.Hope that helped.~Hawke

beliker · 12-13-2006, 11:52 AM

Speaking of noob, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are people talking about when they talk about, what is it FT, LT RT, something like that; has to do with armor?

Boli32 · 12-13-2006, 05:54 PM

FT - flowing thought often comes on gear - regenerates incombat power at a faster rate.ie. FT8 (flowing thought VIII) will increase the power you gain back at every 'tick' (3 seconds I think) by 8On its own it doesn;t do much but stacked together it does a surprising amount of power regen and is mainly sought after by crusadrers (Paladin's Shadow Knights) Mages and Priests.Unsure what LT and RT could be though.

Seomon · 12-13-2006, 10:45 PM

Wulfborne wrote:
Some people also consider our shield bash a taunt as well, just because it has extra aggro tacked onto the ability besides just the damage done.

Hope that helped.

~Hawke

Shield bash give more +hate to a single target than your AE taunt, so I'd call it a taunt with a stun effect.

Meskin · 12-13-2006, 11:45 PM

Thanks for the replies. I thought I was right about the taunts just being my +hate spells, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something

Rast · 12-14-2006, 12:03 AM

I love my shield bash! SMILEY

though noone has ever answered if it is still bad to stun epics. I know in the past, a stun could cause (or guarentee) some sort of special attack from the mob, is that still in the game. It always bothered me the number of abilities I had to give up (in the few raids I've been on) to not have a stun effect in there.

Wallzak · 12-14-2006, 12:56 AM

RE: Shield bash

I've always known this was an agro generator... what I didn't realize that it generates more hate than our single taunt and group taunt... and it stuns!!

BASH AWAY!

beliker · 12-14-2006, 02:20 AM

boli wrote:FT - flowing thought often comes on gear - regenerates incombat power at a faster rate.ie. FT8 (flowing thought VIII) will increase the power you gain back at every 'tick' (3 seconds I think) by 8On its own it doesn;t do much but stacked together it does a surprising amount of power regen and is mainly sought after by crusadrers (Paladin's Shadow Knights) Mages and Priests.Unsure what LT and RT could be though.

That makes total sense haha, I know what Flowing Thought is, just for some reason I never put two and two togather for FT =p The other acronyms where just random ones, all I remember from some post I had skimmed over was that it definatly had a 'T' in it. =pThanks for the school lesson.

Seomon · 12-14-2006, 05:04 AM

Raston wrote:

though noone has ever answered if it is still bad to stun epics.

The stun doesn't work on Epics.

Rast · 12-14-2006, 06:04 AM

I know they don't work, but at least in the past, using a stun was bad news (ie triggered some spell effect, aoe, etc). Is that still in?

Seomon · 12-14-2006, 01:16 PM

It all depends on the mob. Like on the drake you can't use AE's.

Rast · 12-14-2006, 08:23 PM

Thanks for the info SMILEY

Meskin · 12-15-2006, 02:20 AM

Can someone tell me what a proc is and how you get them, how they work and what good + to proc is?

Rast · 12-15-2006, 02:26 AM

a proc is something that goes off based on some random number generator. Imbues are procs (damage for weapons and pants, healing for bp). But you also get a buff that is a proc (Righteousness line I believe it is called. Yellow symbol with a sword in it). A good plus is one that goes off regularly or with enough effect when it does to be acceptable (this is a personal call on the player to be honest).

12-13-2006, 05:20 AM	#1
Meskin Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Look at my history, I will always be a n00b. When we talk about pally taunts we are just talking about our hate increasing spells (they also reduce mitigation too, but the spells that draw aggo). I know in old EQ you had to have a /taunt button set up to increase a taunt skill. That isn't the case here is it? Please tell me I have not been this out of it for this long. Vadiman

12-13-2006, 10:00 AM	#2
Wulfborne Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 596	No /taunt macro required. Your 'taunt' abilities will appear in your knowledge book, just like all your other spells and combat arts. All you have to do is push that icon button just like casting anything else. You have 2 taunts (3 if you count goading gesture, but it's on the same timer as your single target, so we won't count that). One is single target, and one is encounter ae. The encounter ae one decreases resistance to divine damage spells. None of your taunts decrease the mob's mitigation. Some people also consider our shield bash a taunt as well, just because it has extra aggro tacked onto the ability besides just the damage done.Hope that helped.~Hawke __________________

12-13-2006, 10:45 PM	#5
Seomon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 362	Wulfborne wrote: Some people also consider our shield bash a taunt as well, just because it has extra aggro tacked onto the ability besides just the damage done. Hope that helped. ~Hawke Shield bash give more +hate to a single target than your AE taunt, so I'd call it a taunt with a stun effect. __________________

12-14-2006, 12:03 AM	#7
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	I love my shield bash! though noone has ever answered if it is still bad to stun epics. I know in the past, a stun could cause (or guarentee) some sort of special attack from the mob, is that still in the game. It always bothered me the number of abilities I had to give up (in the few raids I've been on) to not have a stun effect in there. __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

12-14-2006, 05:04 AM	#10
Seomon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 362	Raston wrote: though noone has ever answered if it is still bad to stun epics. The stun doesn't work on Epics. __________________

12-13-2006, 11:52 AM	#3
beliker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 124	Speaking of noob, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are people talking about when they talk about, what is it FT, LT RT, something like that; has to do with armor?

12-13-2006, 05:54 PM	#4
Boli32 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,425	FT - flowing thought often comes on gear - regenerates incombat power at a faster rate.ie. FT8 (flowing thought VIII) will increase the power you gain back at every 'tick' (3 seconds I think) by 8On its own it doesn;t do much but stacked together it does a surprising amount of power regen and is mainly sought after by crusadrers (Paladin's Shadow Knights) Mages and Priests.Unsure what LT and RT could be though.

12-13-2006, 11:45 PM	#6
Meskin Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Thanks for the replies. I thought I was right about the taunts just being my +hate spells, I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something

12-14-2006, 12:56 AM	#8
Wallzak Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 367	RE: Shield bash I've always known this was an agro generator... what I didn't realize that it generates more hate than our single taunt and group taunt... and it stuns!! BASH AWAY!

12-14-2006, 02:20 AM	#9
beliker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 124	boli wrote:FT - flowing thought often comes on gear - regenerates incombat power at a faster rate.ie. FT8 (flowing thought VIII) will increase the power you gain back at every 'tick' (3 seconds I think) by 8On its own it doesn;t do much but stacked together it does a surprising amount of power regen and is mainly sought after by crusadrers (Paladin's Shadow Knights) Mages and Priests.Unsure what LT and RT could be though. That makes total sense haha, I know what Flowing Thought is, just for some reason I never put two and two togather for FT =p The other acronyms where just random ones, all I remember from some post I had skimmed over was that it definatly had a 'T' in it. =pThanks for the school lesson.

12-14-2006, 06:04 AM	#11
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	I know they don't work, but at least in the past, using a stun was bad news (ie triggered some spell effect, aoe, etc). Is that still in? __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

12-14-2006, 01:16 PM	#12
Seomon Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 362	It all depends on the mob. Like on the drake you can't use AE's. __________________

12-14-2006, 08:23 PM	#13
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	Thanks for the info __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)

12-15-2006, 02:20 AM	#14
Meskin Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Can someone tell me what a proc is and how you get them, how they work and what good + to proc is?

12-15-2006, 02:26 AM	#15
Rast General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	a proc is something that goes off based on some random number generator. Imbues are procs (damage for weapons and pants, healing for bp). But you also get a buff that is a proc (Righteousness line I believe it is called. Yellow symbol with a sword in it). A good plus is one that goes off regularly or with enough effect when it does to be acceptable (this is a personal call on the player to be honest). __________________ Ancient Council Jalathan T'Varik (90 Paladin) Rhapsodee Windsong (90 Troubador) Garaok (90 Brigand) Tytherian (90 Templar) Shaydroth (51 Illusionist) Raston Roderick (28 Assassin) Saphyrria (21 Warlock) Concordia Discors Jalathe Stoneshield (34 Guardian)