Nominations for our class representative!

uzhiel feathered serpe · 05-02-2005, 05:25 PM

Ok, guys...FAARWOLF has posted in the non-gameplay discussion board for their respective subclasses to nominate a representative. A sort of when you think of Paladins who post who comes to mind. These are people you see in the Boards, not in game.

You can either post on the non game play board or we can nominate someone in ours and post the results in the lounge. Your choice! I think they are trying to start the Guide thing again...sort of.

Here is the link! remember to vote! With a unified voice we're more likely to be heard!

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Non-Gameplay&message.id=96124

Oakbr · 05-02-2005, 08:33 PM

Anybody that supports the coming Cheater Servers should be DQ'd immediately. Pallys do NOT cheat.

uzhiel feathered serpe · 05-02-2005, 09:03 PM

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stex&message.id=1286#M1286

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stex&message.id=4054#M4054

Very true. I feel about it just as strongly as you do. Station Exchange is a TERRIBLE idea, but unfortunately the DEVs will go ahead and do this anyways. To each his own, I guess.

Uzhiel, lvl 50 Paladin, Eternal Chaos, Faydark.

trout · 05-02-2005, 09:08 PM

I think a class guide or correspondent would be a great idea.

I can think of a few people who would do a great job. However I'm not certain who would want the job.

Perhaps thoose of you who are interested could post here with your intentions/ideas so that we can at least only nominate interested parties.

Oakbr · 05-02-2005, 09:25 PM

Hey Uzhiel, why don't you and Sanjun just tag team it?

SunT · 05-02-2005, 11:42 PM

Oakbrow wrote:
Hey Uzhiel, why don't you and Sanjun just tag team it?

Yup, these are my choices.

Either one.

uzhiel feathered serpe · 05-03-2005, 12:07 AM

Its up to you guys, I just have alot of free time at work! :smileytongue:

Seriously though, theres alot of great Paladins out there like Jedite, Boli, and others. I just want what's best for our class.

Boli32 · 05-03-2005, 02:10 AM

I think the 1 representative is not the way to go... after all in the end it will just be one person and one person's opinions - and as we all know there are many ways to play the class... rather than submitting a single name we could spend hours and hours arguing over submit a "council" of sorts with the disclaimer that these guys know the ins and outs of the class pretty well but are not the last word on what works and what doesn't and will on occasion be inaccurate / wrong.Take for example a n00bs questions:

Where do I buy my lvl 20 horsy fluff spell from?It is pretty much only a single answer affair

but take a question that is far more likely to come up?

How do you see yourself in a end game raid scenario?They'll be one person suggesting that Main tanking is the way to go - another says you should go complete DPS and another will say - no supporting tank - heals rezs etc. I don't think ONE SINGLE person (no offence to any of you guys) will know how to play our class in every circumstance with every conceivable outcome.

As it stands now asking the second question on the boards will net you any number of responses. Sift though the posts and the original person who asked the question will be given allthe information he needs to make an informed decision. That is what I appreciate on this board and I’m sure the people who stop by asking questions think the same.

Anyway all of that guff Aside - Uzhiel and SanJun seem to be the best two choices available. Uzheil takes our fight outside and SanJun keeps us imformed on the more technical aspects. EDIT: Thanks to the few of you who thought of as little ole me, but as I have it pointed out to me a few times I am only lvl 35 I know "Jack" about end game. My Pally has bee here since the first week - I like to take my time

Message Edited by boli on 05-02-2005 11:15 PM

RSZ · 05-03-2005, 03:50 AM

I nominate Gage-Mikel. He knows best what's good for you and you.

eyes007 · 05-03-2005, 04:18 AM

Maybe it's me but I feel that Paladins need to have a roleplay in this, there should be an element of roleplay for this representative to truly represent Paladins. Look at all the good fantasy novels, Dragonlance had a Council of 3 in the Knights of Solamnus (err...I know I spelt it wrong :smileysurprised SMILEY , the Sparhawk novels had the Council of the 4 Orders (sigh..forgotten so much!), King Arthur and his knights etc. The fact that we can't decide on the most eminent Paladins on these boards is the Paladin way :smileywink:!.

I know these are only forum boards but I would like to do it properly and with a little style..

Anyone think this is a bad idea?

My choice would be the Council of Three: SanJun, Uzhiel and Darkith

jshari · 05-03-2005, 05:27 AM

well i nominated you, you seem well informed but most of all dedacated

woo · 05-03-2005, 06:09 AM

Message Edited by woode on 05-02-2005 07:10 PM

eyes007 · 05-03-2005, 07:10 AM

OMG...that would be hilarious..

"Nominate me for you party president..co-incidentally...I forgot my sword and errrr....my pants :smileysurprised: so I'll just be right back..."

One word....

LOL

Reav · 05-03-2005, 07:21 AM

You got my vote Uzhiel.

HeraklesMolt · 05-03-2005, 07:50 AM

Kalen or Lustus.

Valian1 · 05-03-2005, 09:33 AM

Ive read your opinions and I agree with the Paladin changes that may occur. I vote for Uzhiel. (Respectively to the other candidates)

Message Edited by Valian164 on 05-02-2005 10:33 PM

MeridianR · 05-03-2005, 04:11 PM

There are a couple well informed posters on this board, but we need to make sure we choose someone who just isn't going to try to make Paladin's the highest dps, best tanking, best healer, etc.....we need someone who will listen to ALL of the posters here (since we have some good ones) and then post suggestions as to what he/she believes to be the best action to take to the devs about those issues. The post on this board about the current changes, is a good post to see the way that a lot of us post, as to what the issues are, and what we believe should be the answer. I guess I am trying to say, while being the best DPS, best healer, best tank etc, would be nice...we need someone with a level head to try to come up with a middle ground, and then draw on the responses from the community....before they rush to the devs with "OMG, MAKE US UBAH!!11111".... Just my 2 cents SMILEY

MeridianR · 05-03-2005, 04:16 PM

BTW - My list would be (kind of just narrowing down): Seomon boli SanJun MeridianR - yeah yeah I know...I shouldn't say myself SMILEY

No slight to the others mentioned, or to the OP, but these are my choices SMILEY

Pathin Merrithay · 05-03-2005, 10:19 PM

Respect to all, great and noble minds that have been nominated, but SanJun/Kalen has got to be my choice... assuming this is even a voting-type contest. Maybe we should go 'Battle Royale' and the last one to come out alive gets the nod... SMILEY

SanJ · 05-03-2005, 11:12 PM

Good afternoon all!

I've been off the boards a few days now making screen shots in-game of 40+ equipment to update the thread I started a few weeks ago. I should be able to make several of the updates tomorrow or the following day.

I appreciate all the nice nominations to help represent the Paladin community issues, but I'm not sure I'd be a really good candidate. I have a brand new project starting at work that is about to monopolize a large chuck of my time. However, I'd be more then willing to work with everyone to assist any way I can.

I love posting on the boards and discussing a variety of Paladin topics, but secretly I do this to learn as much from you guys as you'll ever learn from me SMILEY I guess the secret is out now! I did not play EQ1 and don't have those ground roots for comparison so I have to work extra hard sometimes to keep up. The terms MT, OT, MA, Proc, OOM, etc. were all greek to me before I started on EQ2. I do read a lot of the posts on the forums and I'm willing to share any tips/advice/insight I discover in-game or via other mediums, but sometimes I still feel like a noob on certain topics.

Uzhiel and many others post fantastic topics of interest and I wouldn't hesitate to work as a team with anyone on the Paladin forum to address topics of interest that currently impact or could impact our game play. I do go 2-3 days on the uncommon occasion where I'm unable to access the Paladin forum. I'm sure many of you experience the same dilema and that's why I propose we strive for a group to make our representation accurate and timely.

Thanks,
Kalen

Pathin Merrithay · 05-04-2005, 12:40 AM

So....

I actually read Faarwolf's post in detail, and while the thread seems to be a jump on the bandwagon sort of thing, at no point does it say she's looking for 'representatives', or any input from these people at all. Just which individual of each class comes to mind, perhaps simply to create discussion, or give credit to those that help out the others. Maybe we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves and crown our own Queen of the forums here.

MeridianR · 05-04-2005, 03:45 PM

Pathin Merrithay wrote:
So....

I actually read Faarwolf's post in detail, and while the thread seems to be a jump on the bandwagon sort of thing, at no point does it say she's looking for 'representatives', or any input from these people at all. Just which individual of each class comes to mind, perhaps simply to create discussion, or give credit to those that help out the others. Maybe we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves and crown our own Queen of the forums here.

If you played SWG, (another SOE ran game) then you know that each class had a rep. that was the go to person for the devs...these players got little nifty board icons, etc, but really there function was to gather data (from playing on Test Server where they did dps tests, etc..) and then make posts on a special board they were given access to. So pretty much whether this happens now, or later, eventually there is going to be a position where someone will speak for us all....hopefully from listening to all of us on the board...

05-02-2005, 08:33 PM	#2
Oakbr Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 250	Anybody that supports the coming Cheater Servers should be DQ'd immediately. Pallys do NOT cheat. __________________ Farghus--Level 57 Trollie Palladun. (Mees am NOT ebul!) Kahbueme--Level 57 Warlock (sounds like Kaboom as pronounced by a waiter in a snooty French restaurant) Najena Server

05-02-2005, 09:25 PM	#5
Oakbr Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 250	Hey Uzhiel, why don't you and Sanjun just tag team it? __________________ Farghus--Level 57 Trollie Palladun. (Mees am NOT ebul!) Kahbueme--Level 57 Warlock (sounds like Kaboom as pronounced by a waiter in a snooty French restaurant) Najena Server

05-02-2005, 11:42 PM	#6
SunT Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 821	Oakbrow wrote: Hey Uzhiel, why don't you and Sanjun just tag team it? Yup, these are my choices. Either one. __________________ Retired Roamin Nome, 70 Illusionist/60Jeweler Crack Bot, Nektulos Argyll, 60 Paladin / Heresy, 62 Defiler

05-03-2005, 02:10 AM	#8
Boli32 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,425	I think the 1 representative is not the way to go... after all in the end it will just be one person and one person's opinions - and as we all know there are many ways to play the class... rather than submitting a single name we could spend hours and hours arguing over submit a "council" of sorts with the disclaimer that these guys know the ins and outs of the class pretty well but are not the last word on what works and what doesn't and will on occasion be inaccurate / wrong.Take for example a n00bs questions: Where do I buy my lvl 20 horsy fluff spell from?It is pretty much only a single answer affair but take a question that is far more likely to come up? How do you see yourself in a end game raid scenario?They'll be one person suggesting that Main tanking is the way to go - another says you should go complete DPS and another will say - no supporting tank - heals rezs etc. I don't think ONE SINGLE person (no offence to any of you guys) will know how to play our class in every circumstance with every conceivable outcome. As it stands now asking the second question on the boards will net you any number of responses. Sift though the posts and the original person who asked the question will be given allthe information he needs to make an informed decision. That is what I appreciate on this board and I’m sure the people who stop by asking questions think the same. Anyway all of that guff Aside - Uzhiel and SanJun seem to be the best two choices available. Uzheil takes our fight outside and SanJun keeps us imformed on the more technical aspects. EDIT: Thanks to the few of you who thought of as little ole me, but as I have it pointed out to me a few times I am only lvl 35 I know "Jack" about end game. My Pally has bee here since the first week - I like to take my time Message Edited by boli on 05-02-2005 11:15 PM

05-03-2005, 04:18 AM	#10
eyes007 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 242	Maybe it's me but I feel that Paladins need to have a roleplay in this, there should be an element of roleplay for this representative to truly represent Paladins. Look at all the good fantasy novels, Dragonlance had a Council of 3 in the Knights of Solamnus (err...I know I spelt it wrong :smileysurprised, the Sparhawk novels had the Council of the 4 Orders (sigh..forgotten so much!), King Arthur and his knights etc. The fact that we can't decide on the most eminent Paladins on these boards is the Paladin way :smileywink:!. I know these are only forum boards but I would like to do it properly and with a little style.. Anyone think this is a bad idea? My choice would be the Council of Three: SanJun, Uzhiel and Darkith __________________

05-02-2005, 05:25 PM	#1
uzhiel feathered serpe Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461	Ok, guys...FAARWOLF has posted in the non-gameplay discussion board for their respective subclasses to nominate a representative. A sort of when you think of Paladins who post who comes to mind. These are people you see in the Boards, not in game. You can either post on the non game play board or we can nominate someone in ours and post the results in the lounge. Your choice! I think they are trying to start the Guide thing again...sort of. Here is the link! remember to vote! With a unified voice we're more likely to be heard! http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=Non-Gameplay&message.id=96124

05-02-2005, 09:03 PM	#3
uzhiel feathered serpe Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461	http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stex&message.id=1286#M1286 http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=stex&message.id=4054#M4054 Very true. I feel about it just as strongly as you do. Station Exchange is a TERRIBLE idea, but unfortunately the DEVs will go ahead and do this anyways. To each his own, I guess. Uzhiel, lvl 50 Paladin, Eternal Chaos, Faydark.

05-02-2005, 09:08 PM	#4
trout Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 57	I think a class guide or correspondent would be a great idea. I can think of a few people who would do a great job. However I'm not certain who would want the job. Perhaps thoose of you who are interested could post here with your intentions/ideas so that we can at least only nominate interested parties.

05-03-2005, 12:07 AM	#7
uzhiel feathered serpe Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 461	Its up to you guys, I just have alot of free time at work! :smileytongue: Seriously though, theres alot of great Paladins out there like Jedite, Boli, and others. I just want what's best for our class.

05-03-2005, 03:50 AM	#9
RSZ Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 201	I nominate Gage-Mikel. He knows best what's good for you and you.

05-03-2005, 05:27 AM	#11
jshari General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 198	well i nominated you, you seem well informed but most of all dedacated __________________

05-03-2005, 06:09 AM	#12
woo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 239	Message Edited by woode on 05-02-2005 07:10 PM

05-03-2005, 07:10 AM	#13
eyes007 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 242	OMG...that would be hilarious.. "Nominate me for you party president..co-incidentally...I forgot my sword and errrr....my pants :smileysurprised: so I'll just be right back..." One word.... LOL __________________

05-03-2005, 07:21 AM	#14
Reav Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 14	You got my vote Uzhiel. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Reaves - Half-Elven Paladin "The differance between good and evil is often determined by the victor." - Reaves Elvenkin

05-03-2005, 07:50 AM	#15
HeraklesMolt Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 72	Kalen or Lustus.

05-03-2005, 09:33 AM	#16
Valian1 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 52	Ive read your opinions and I agree with the Paladin changes that may occur. I vote for Uzhiel. (Respectively to the other candidates) Message Edited by Valian164 on 05-02-2005 10:33 PM

05-03-2005, 04:11 PM	#17
MeridianR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,402	There are a couple well informed posters on this board, but we need to make sure we choose someone who just isn't going to try to make Paladin's the highest dps, best tanking, best healer, etc.....we need someone who will listen to ALL of the posters here (since we have some good ones) and then post suggestions as to what he/she believes to be the best action to take to the devs about those issues. The post on this board about the current changes, is a good post to see the way that a lot of us post, as to what the issues are, and what we believe should be the answer. I guess I am trying to say, while being the best DPS, best healer, best tank etc, would be nice...we need someone with a level head to try to come up with a middle ground, and then draw on the responses from the community....before they rush to the devs with "OMG, MAKE US UBAH!!11111".... Just my 2 cents __________________ Meridian - L70 Brigand (Vendetta)

05-03-2005, 04:16 PM	#18
MeridianR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,402	BTW - My list would be (kind of just narrowing down): Seomon boli SanJun MeridianR - yeah yeah I know...I shouldn't say myself No slight to the others mentioned, or to the OP, but these are my choices __________________ Meridian - L70 Brigand (Vendetta)

05-03-2005, 10:19 PM	#19
Pathin Merrithay Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 473	Respect to all, great and noble minds that have been nominated, but SanJun/Kalen has got to be my choice... assuming this is even a voting-type contest. Maybe we should go 'Battle Royale' and the last one to come out alive gets the nod...

05-03-2005, 11:12 PM	#20
SanJ Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 396	Good afternoon all! I've been off the boards a few days now making screen shots in-game of 40+ equipment to update the thread I started a few weeks ago. I should be able to make several of the updates tomorrow or the following day. I appreciate all the nice nominations to help represent the Paladin community issues, but I'm not sure I'd be a really good candidate. I have a brand new project starting at work that is about to monopolize a large chuck of my time. However, I'd be more then willing to work with everyone to assist any way I can. I love posting on the boards and discussing a variety of Paladin topics, but secretly I do this to learn as much from you guys as you'll ever learn from me I guess the secret is out now! I did not play EQ1 and don't have those ground roots for comparison so I have to work extra hard sometimes to keep up. The terms MT, OT, MA, Proc, OOM, etc. were all greek to me before I started on EQ2. I do read a lot of the posts on the forums and I'm willing to share any tips/advice/insight I discover in-game or via other mediums, but sometimes I still feel like a noob on certain topics. Uzhiel and many others post fantastic topics of interest and I wouldn't hesitate to work as a team with anyone on the Paladin forum to address topics of interest that currently impact or could impact our game play. I do go 2-3 days on the uncommon occasion where I'm unable to access the Paladin forum. I'm sure many of you experience the same dilema and that's why I propose we strive for a group to make our representation accurate and timely. Thanks, Kalen __________________

05-04-2005, 12:40 AM	#21
Pathin Merrithay Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 473	So.... I actually read Faarwolf's post in detail, and while the thread seems to be a jump on the bandwagon sort of thing, at no point does it say she's looking for 'representatives', or any input from these people at all. Just which individual of each class comes to mind, perhaps simply to create discussion, or give credit to those that help out the others. Maybe we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves and crown our own Queen of the forums here.

05-04-2005, 03:45 PM	#22
MeridianR Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,402	Pathin Merrithay wrote: So.... I actually read Faarwolf's post in detail, and while the thread seems to be a jump on the bandwagon sort of thing, at no point does it say she's looking for 'representatives', or any input from these people at all. Just which individual of each class comes to mind, perhaps simply to create discussion, or give credit to those that help out the others. Maybe we shouldn't get too far ahead of ourselves and crown our own Queen of the forums here. If you played SWG, (another SOE ran game) then you know that each class had a rep. that was the go to person for the devs...these players got little nifty board icons, etc, but really there function was to gather data (from playing on Test Server where they did dps tests, etc..) and then make posts on a special board they were given access to. So pretty much whether this happens now, or later, eventually there is going to be a position where someone will speak for us all....hopefully from listening to all of us on the board... __________________ Meridian - L70 Brigand (Vendetta)