LvL 16 Def stance

Sin_Co · 06-27-2006, 06:59 PM

Hey all,Just started playing again to give PvP ago (only played until lvl 10 way back at release). Played a 65SK on VZ in EQ and im slowly learning this EQ2 one, but i have a question which has been bugging me.I just hit lvl 16 and got what looks like an upgraded Def stance. But the thing is with the old lvl 4 stance i have 460ish mitigation and that absorbs 35% damage. When i put the new lvl 16 one on my mitigation goes up over 500 yet my absorbtion has dropped to 34.4% and shows up as absorbing 34% damage on piercing, crushing etc.No gear changes or anything like that, just clicking from one to the other.Why?I don't get it, my mitigation increases yet i absorb less.......If someone knows whats going on i would appreciate the feedback

Xanoth · 06-27-2006, 11:13 PM

mitigation % is based on your level vs mobs level, and requires a certain amount of mitigation to reach the same %

i think it equates to mob level x 80 = mit cap

so for level 16, you need 1280 mitigation to mitigate 80%

so the simple answer is that because you've leveled you need a higher mitigation to mitigate the same % of incoming damage.

Sin_Co · 06-28-2006, 12:03 AM

Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish.I'm just curious as to why.....

Dijital · 07-02-2006, 01:27 AM

You obivously dont understand it, cos the guy who just posted was spot on. No offense or anything but hes about as right as you can be.

erimus · 07-02-2006, 10:55 PM

Sin_Core Wrote:

Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish.

I'm just curious as to why.....

What he was trying to say was that it works basically like an exponential curve on a graph (if that makes sense) at level 15 maybe it only took 460 mitigation to reach 35% however at level 16 it may take 560 to reach 35%

That being said, It doesnt make sense that a lower mitigation will yeild a higher amount of absorbtion. If at level 16 you can toggle between the 2 spells and the one that brings your mitigation to a higher amount (500) gives you less amount of absorbtion (34.4%), it just confuses me as well.

500 mitigation at level 16 should give you a higher amount of absorbtion than 460 mitigation

I understand that the response to your question was exactly right, but Im not sure that it answers exactly what you are asking, anyone else able to offer some insight?

Tasmai · 07-02-2006, 11:53 PM

In a nutshell, the game calculates your % by comparing it to a mob of your level. So if you didnt gain enough miti to compensate for the miti required against the next level, then the % will go down.

Fraenhawk · 07-07-2006, 06:34 PM

erimus wrote:

Sin_Core Wrote:

Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish.

I'm just curious as to why.....

What he was trying to say was that it works basically like an exponential curve on a graph (if that makes sense) at level 15 maybe it only took 460 mitigation to reach 35% however at level 16 it may take 560 to reach 35%

That being said, It doesnt make sense that a lower mitigation will yeild a higher amount of absorbtion. If at level 16 you can toggle between the 2 spells and the one that brings your mitigation to a higher amount (500) gives you less amount of absorbtion (34.4%), it just confuses me as well.

500 mitigation at level 16 should give you a higher amount of absorbtion than 460 mitigation

I understand that the response to your question was exactly right, but Im not sure that it answers exactly what you are asking, anyone else able to offer some insight?

Exactly the point I think he's trying to make. Everytone reread his post. He's not comparing level 15 mit to level 16 mit, he's comparing level 16 with the level 4 def stance to level 16 with the level 16 stance. That doesn't make any sense to me unless you have like the Master I of the 4 compared to the App I of the 16 or something bizarre like that.

06-27-2006, 11:13 PM	#2
Xanoth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Durham, UK Posts: 928	mitigation % is based on your level vs mobs level, and requires a certain amount of mitigation to reach the same % i think it equates to mob level x 80 = mit cap so for level 16, you need 1280 mitigation to mitigate 80% so the simple answer is that because you've leveled you need a higher mitigation to mitigate the same % of incoming damage. __________________ Xanoth Leader of Xanadu EQ2 Raid Loot Database

07-02-2006, 10:55 PM	#5
erimus Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 78	Sin_Core Wrote: Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish. I'm just curious as to why..... What he was trying to say was that it works basically like an exponential curve on a graph (if that makes sense) at level 15 maybe it only took 460 mitigation to reach 35% however at level 16 it may take 560 to reach 35% That being said, It doesnt make sense that a lower mitigation will yeild a higher amount of absorbtion. If at level 16 you can toggle between the 2 spells and the one that brings your mitigation to a higher amount (500) gives you less amount of absorbtion (34.4%), it just confuses me as well. 500 mitigation at level 16 should give you a higher amount of absorbtion than 460 mitigation I understand that the response to your question was exactly right, but Im not sure that it answers exactly what you are asking, anyone else able to offer some insight? __________________

07-02-2006, 11:53 PM	#6
Tasmai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 49	In a nutshell, the game calculates your % by comparing it to a mob of your level. So if you didnt gain enough miti to compensate for the miti required against the next level, then the % will go down. __________________ Kaylee - 90/250 Shadowknight Prexi - 90/250 - Illusionist

07-07-2006, 06:34 PM	#7
Fraenhawk Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 24	erimus wrote: Sin_Core Wrote: Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish. I'm just curious as to why..... What he was trying to say was that it works basically like an exponential curve on a graph (if that makes sense) at level 15 maybe it only took 460 mitigation to reach 35% however at level 16 it may take 560 to reach 35% That being said, It doesnt make sense that a lower mitigation will yeild a higher amount of absorbtion. If at level 16 you can toggle between the 2 spells and the one that brings your mitigation to a higher amount (500) gives you less amount of absorbtion (34.4%), it just confuses me as well. 500 mitigation at level 16 should give you a higher amount of absorbtion than 460 mitigation I understand that the response to your question was exactly right, but Im not sure that it answers exactly what you are asking, anyone else able to offer some insight? Exactly the point I think he's trying to make. Everytone reread his post. He's not comparing level 15 mit to level 16 mit, he's comparing level 16 with the level 4 def stance to level 16 with the level 16 stance. That doesn't make any sense to me unless you have like the Master I of the 4 compared to the App I of the 16 or something bizarre like that.

06-27-2006, 06:59 PM	#1
Sin_Co General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	Hey all,Just started playing again to give PvP ago (only played until lvl 10 way back at release). Played a 65SK on VZ in EQ and im slowly learning this EQ2 one, but i have a question which has been bugging me.I just hit lvl 16 and got what looks like an upgraded Def stance. But the thing is with the old lvl 4 stance i have 460ish mitigation and that absorbs 35% damage. When i put the new lvl 16 one on my mitigation goes up over 500 yet my absorbtion has dropped to 34.4% and shows up as absorbing 34% damage on piercing, crushing etc.No gear changes or anything like that, just clicking from one to the other.Why?I don't get it, my mitigation increases yet i absorb less.......If someone knows whats going on i would appreciate the feedback

06-28-2006, 12:03 AM	#3
Sin_Co General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2	Yes i understand that but nothing has changed. LvL 16 right now and i can switch between my lvl 16 def stance and lvl 4 def stance and the stats read that i have lost 1% absorbtion with the lvl 16 stance......even though my mitigation goes up by 40ish.I'm just curious as to why.....

07-02-2006, 01:27 AM	#4
Dijital General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 33	You obivously dont understand it, cos the guy who just posted was spot on. No offense or anything but hes about as right as you can be.