PvP advice

Owa · 07-18-2006, 09:46 PM

We do a fair amount of 1 vs 1 on Venekor and as you know the mechanics are different to duels on a blue server. My l 70 Bruiser has not bad gear for a PvP server- but not nearly as good as the average lvl 70 from a blue. Anyway, I do pretty well 1 vs 1 against pretty much everyone I've fought - but the other day I got beaten twice out of three by a 68 Warden.

I tried all-out burst damage (the 'Zidane') and nearly had him dead before his heals kicked in. Then I tried timing stuns, mez, fear etc to stop him casting -but didn't seem to have enough to stop all his DoTs and heals from doing their work. In fact this second approach worked out worse than the Zidane.

I know that if I could upgrade my spells to Master 1 and or/get Twin Calamities, the burst damage approach would probably work. Failing that, can anyone who does well against Wardens in PvP gimme a few tips? Do I just need to work on timing the stuns bettter? Is this our 'can't beat' class?

Erendil · 07-18-2006, 09:52 PM

I want to start by saying that I don't play on a PVP server. That said, I have a friend who is a warden that I have dueled with quite a bit...I started off using our knockout combination on her at the open of a fight followed by as much burst damage as I could muster....and that worked until she got a heal off before the attacks- then it was lights out.

Ultimately I shifted my gear to cover heat and cold resists. Makes a longer fight, but her damage just doesnt do enough now to take me out. Hope this helps.

Arindle- 70 Bruiser, Guk

MakhailSamma · 07-19-2006, 01:32 AM

I basicaly go with just auto attack and quick reuse combat arts at first because they always have their big heals available then. I think of it as softening them up SMILEY

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From there its basicaly a gut feeling. Generally, while luring them into this "false sense of security" they will start letting their helth drop a bit because you not really beating them that hard. Once they let you get them between 50%-60% health (this will generally happen after they think they "have you" because you are around <50% HP then I hit knockout combo and go all out, unleashing everything I have, that'll generally drop them everytime.

CosmicAcidGu · 07-19-2006, 01:17 PM

wardens are extremely hard to kill for bruisers. Krommus' strat is the one I go for usually...but still fail most of the time. Finnster / Finni

chadawok · 07-19-2006, 06:17 PM

just run away and come back with a gank squad!!! its the only way!!!

johnasaur · 07-20-2006, 05:21 PM

Hey there,

Healers are tough.

To beat these guys I always have a Potion of Power -regen hot-keyed. I also always have a HP regen too.

It is is truely satisfying beating Healers at their own game and also maybe the only way to beat them ?

Hope this helps.

baconkil · 07-21-2006, 11:52 AM

Since I went with the final ability on the int line, I just use a ca here and there, basically biding my time till i hit 30% health, then i hit knockout combo and go off with everything crit'ing. No healer can keep up with that amount of damage.

Owa · 07-21-2006, 11:05 PM

Hm. Sounds like a /respec is in order...

Geoff · 07-22-2006, 07:43 AM

I think it's fair to say that in true 1v1, a good warden can beat anyone, with the exception of a good ranger, and possibly a lucky bruiser

07-18-2006, 09:46 PM	#1
Owa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 944	We do a fair amount of 1 vs 1 on Venekor and as you know the mechanics are different to duels on a blue server. My l 70 Bruiser has not bad gear for a PvP server- but not nearly as good as the average lvl 70 from a blue. Anyway, I do pretty well 1 vs 1 against pretty much everyone I've fought - but the other day I got beaten twice out of three by a 68 Warden. I tried all-out burst damage (the 'Zidane') and nearly had him dead before his heals kicked in. Then I tried timing stuns, mez, fear etc to stop him casting -but didn't seem to have enough to stop all his DoTs and heals from doing their work. In fact this second approach worked out worse than the Zidane. I know that if I could upgrade my spells to Master 1 and or/get Twin Calamities, the burst damage approach would probably work. Failing that, can anyone who does well against Wardens in PvP gimme a few tips? Do I just need to work on timing the stuns bettter? Is this our 'can't beat' class? __________________

07-19-2006, 01:32 AM	#3
MakhailSamma General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 349	I basicaly go with just auto attack and quick reuse combat arts at first because they always have their big heals available then. I think of it as softening them up . From there its basicaly a gut feeling. Generally, while luring them into this "false sense of security" they will start letting their helth drop a bit because you not really beating them that hard. Once they let you get them between 50%-60% health (this will generally happen after they think they "have you" because you are around <50% HP then I hit knockout combo and go all out, unleashing everything I have, that'll generally drop them everytime. __________________

07-19-2006, 01:17 PM	#4
CosmicAcidGu Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 200	wardens are extremely hard to kill for bruisers. Krommus' strat is the one I go for usually...but still fail most of the time. Finnster / Finni __________________

07-21-2006, 11:05 PM	#8
Owa General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 944	Hm. Sounds like a /respec is in order... __________________

07-22-2006, 07:43 AM	#9
Geoff General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 211	I think it's fair to say that in true 1v1, a good warden can beat anyone, with the exception of a good ranger, and possibly a lucky bruiser __________________

07-18-2006, 09:52 PM	#2
Erendil Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 43	I want to start by saying that I don't play on a PVP server. That said, I have a friend who is a warden that I have dueled with quite a bit...I started off using our knockout combination on her at the open of a fight followed by as much burst damage as I could muster....and that worked until she got a heal off before the attacks- then it was lights out. Ultimately I shifted my gear to cover heat and cold resists. Makes a longer fight, but her damage just doesnt do enough now to take me out. Hope this helps. Arindle- 70 Bruiser, Guk

07-19-2006, 06:17 PM	#5
chadawok General Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 41	just run away and come back with a gank squad!!! its the only way!!!

07-20-2006, 05:21 PM	#6
johnasaur Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1	Hey there, Healers are tough. To beat these guys I always have a Potion of Power -regen hot-keyed. I also always have a HP regen too. It is is truely satisfying beating Healers at their own game and also maybe the only way to beat them ? Hope this helps.

07-21-2006, 11:52 AM	#7
baconkil Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3	Since I went with the final ability on the int line, I just use a ca here and there, basically biding my time till i hit 30% health, then i hit knockout combo and go off with everything crit'ing. No healer can keep up with that amount of damage.