No more "Evil" Race/Monks

Kare · 02-04-2006, 08:26 AM

I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available.

Adewale · 02-04-2006, 08:49 AM

You're ignorant of the fact you can grow up a bruiser, betray and when you are a citizen of Qeynos, you automatically become a Monk.

Cwi · 02-04-2006, 08:49 AM

You can still be a monk if you start as an evil race. Just like before you have to betray Freeport and join Qeynos.

Cusashorn · 02-04-2006, 09:09 AM

AdewaleTD wrote:You're ignorant of the fact you can grow up a bruiser, betray and when you are a citizen of Qeynos, you automatically become a Monk.

He's also ignorant of the fact that THERE WAS NEVER ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO BE AN EVIL RACE MONK in the first place. You always had to betray. No exceptions.

Kare · 02-04-2006, 09:37 AM

"You always had to betray"No [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sherlock, isn't that what I said in the original post?I'd like to state that you are ignorant of that fact I already knew that you can't be an evil race monk "starting" off before Live Update 19. Just because you had to betray before doesn't mean that you always will. This is a patch and I expect CHANGES. And where in the world in the patch changes say that you automatically change classes after betraying? It didn't, so I assume classes are static. And I'm not like you spending countless hours on the forums. I can tell from the near 3k posts you have. You obviously have nothing better to do than make uninformative posts like this one.

KnowH · 02-04-2006, 11:00 AM

Kareya wrote:"You always had to betray"No [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sherlock, isn't that what I said in the original post?I'd like to state that you are ignorant of that fact I already knew that you can't be an evil race monk "starting" off before Live Update 19. Just because you had to betray before doesn't mean that you always will. This is a patch and I expect CHANGES. And where in the world in the patch changes say that you automatically change classes after betraying? It didn't, so I assume classes are static. And I'm not like you spending countless hours on the forums. I can tell from the near 3k posts you have. You obviously have nothing better to do than make uninformative posts like this one.

Dude, relax........ There was some discussion in the test forums about how betrayals will work. If you look closely at the notes for LU19, you'll find this little tidbit:

City Betrayal- The city betrayal quests currently remain as they were. These quests will be changing significantly in a future update.

We only have less than 3 weeks until KoS. I recommend that you play your character and REALLY get to know it, then when the time comes, betray. Since Bruiser and Monk mechanics are pretty similar (especially for the lower levels), you'll find the transition fairly easy. We'll need to help you achieve Calm Tranquility before then, though SMILEY

Igu · 02-04-2006, 10:21 PM

You class changes when you betray. All skills will be App1.

TimUK · 02-06-2006, 06:24 PM

Just to add something to this, doesnt really belong here

I made a ratonga assassin on Runnyeye server before the CU

I only went back yesterday to it. but was suprised i could pick my class and changed it to a ranger

so basicly i had betrayed without doing any work

I also gained 2 levels, i was quite pleased SMILEY

DarkerApprenti · 02-07-2006, 02:14 AM

Additionally this topic was already discussed in an early thread.

ganjookie · 02-07-2006, 02:51 AM

Soooooooo your asking for the game to be even easier because you dont want to betray then? try working for something first to make it more meaningfulWAAAAAHHHnobody cares

Kareya wrote:I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available.

mrjak · 02-07-2006, 11:18 AM

ganjookie wrote:
Soooooooo your asking for the game to be even easier because you dont want to betray then? try working for something first to make it more meaningfulWAAAAAHHHnobody cares
Kareya wrote:I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available.

you are an idiot, troll somewhere else.

02-04-2006, 08:49 AM	#3
Cwi Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 187	You can still be a monk if you start as an evil race. Just like before you have to betray Freeport and join Qeynos. __________________

02-04-2006, 11:00 AM	#6
KnowH Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 146	Kareya wrote:"You always had to betray"No [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sherlock, isn't that what I said in the original post?I'd like to state that you are ignorant of that fact I already knew that you can't be an evil race monk "starting" off before Live Update 19. Just because you had to betray before doesn't mean that you always will. This is a patch and I expect CHANGES. And where in the world in the patch changes say that you automatically change classes after betraying? It didn't, so I assume classes are static. And I'm not like you spending countless hours on the forums. I can tell from the near 3k posts you have. You obviously have nothing better to do than make uninformative posts like this one. Dude, relax........ There was some discussion in the test forums about how betrayals will work. If you look closely at the notes for LU19, you'll find this little tidbit: City Betrayal- The city betrayal quests currently remain as they were. These quests will be changing significantly in a future update. We only have less than 3 weeks until KoS. I recommend that you play your character and REALLY get to know it, then when the time comes, betray. Since Bruiser and Monk mechanics are pretty similar (especially for the lower levels), you'll find the transition fairly easy. We'll need to help you achieve Calm Tranquility before then, though __________________

02-06-2006, 06:24 PM	#8
TimUK Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 52	Just to add something to this, doesnt really belong here I made a ratonga assassin on Runnyeye server before the CU I only went back yesterday to it. but was suprised i could pick my class and changed it to a ranger so basicly i had betrayed without doing any work I also gained 2 levels, i was quite pleased __________________

02-07-2006, 02:14 AM	#9
DarkerApprenti Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 62	Additionally this topic was already discussed in an early thread. __________________

02-07-2006, 02:51 AM	#10
ganjookie Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,201	Soooooooo your asking for the game to be even easier because you dont want to betray then? try working for something first to make it more meaningfulWAAAAAHHHnobody cares Kareya wrote:I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available. __________________

02-04-2006, 08:26 AM	#1
Kare Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7	I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available.

02-04-2006, 08:49 AM	#2
Adewale Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	You're ignorant of the fact you can grow up a bruiser, betray and when you are a citizen of Qeynos, you automatically become a Monk.

02-04-2006, 09:09 AM	#4
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	AdewaleTD wrote:You're ignorant of the fact you can grow up a bruiser, betray and when you are a citizen of Qeynos, you automatically become a Monk. He's also ignorant of the fact that THERE WAS NEVER ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO BE AN EVIL RACE MONK in the first place. You always had to betray. No exceptions.

02-04-2006, 09:37 AM	#5
Kare Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 7	"You always had to betray"No [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] sherlock, isn't that what I said in the original post?I'd like to state that you are ignorant of that fact I already knew that you can't be an evil race monk "starting" off before Live Update 19. Just because you had to betray before doesn't mean that you always will. This is a patch and I expect CHANGES. And where in the world in the patch changes say that you automatically change classes after betraying? It didn't, so I assume classes are static. And I'm not like you spending countless hours on the forums. I can tell from the near 3k posts you have. You obviously have nothing better to do than make uninformative posts like this one.

02-04-2006, 10:21 PM	#7
Igu Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 188	You class changes when you betray. All skills will be App1.

02-07-2006, 11:18 AM	#11
mrjak Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	ganjookie wrote: Soooooooo your asking for the game to be even easier because you dont want to betray then? try working for something first to make it more meaningfulWAAAAAHHHnobody cares Kareya wrote:I don't like this new character creation system. I want to make a Ratonga monk, but I can't! You need to be a neutral or good race in order to play one! Before the change, you can play a ratonga, betray, THEN become a monk. SOE should just make all alignment/race/class combinations available. you are an idiot, troll somewhere else.