Brokenskull Bay (Heroics)

Ucala · 10-15-2014, 03:43 AM

Private stock.--
couldn't even find the first name in the zone after looking all over

Honet Yack --
the first names uncurable det (trauma) named Abondon Ship hits way too hard, unless there is a way to block it, we all got trucked right at the start of the fight

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 06:05 PM

We are likely moving the zone in point to the bottom of the really long ramp. The named ring event will start when you kill the Pirates fighting the Urzarachs in the large open room at the bottom of the ramps.

Hoist the Yellow Jack? heh.
Will check out the det. It might be something you are missing but I will double check it just in case. What were your levels, hp, and resists values because those will matter a great deal in there?

Ucala · 10-15-2014, 06:36 PM

ahh the ring event. that would explain some things I guess.

and yea Hoist.
I was 100, tank was 98, dirge was 98, fury was 99, and we had an assassin also 98.
I wouldn't know all those values itself, but the zone didn't give us a zone buff if that's what you mean, so we basically had the same values as we do in ToV

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 06:37 PM

That was likely the issue. We will try to get that resolved.

Ucala · 10-15-2014, 06:38 PM

well you should send word about the others, nearly all the zones we tried didn't give zone buffs (except for Lost Caverns) out of the like 5 zones we went to

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 06:40 PM

I just verified with the team that the issue has been fixed and should be part of the beta build that gets pushed to servers late tonight.

Yajirushi62 · 10-15-2014, 10:14 PM

Will the buffs actually work? I'm having issues getting the AS buffs to work Gninja

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 10:16 PM

Caith was reviewing them all this morning. he said he worked out the issue. I haven't been able to personally test them myself but I saw them in the upcoming patch and verified with Bunji that it was included.

Buffrat · 10-15-2014, 11:36 PM

Why is a mob named Triage Medic tagged as a Scout mob?

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 11:38 PM

Because he um... scouts for local medicines to add to his medicine bag... yeah that's it...

Gninja · 10-15-2014, 11:45 PM

What would make you think he was a scout though? He shouldn't have been using scout abilities. Though you were right his base class was set to swashy.

Ucala · 10-15-2014, 11:57 PM

well if the patch already happened, the buffs still aren't in (I assume it did since you can buff to 100 with baubles now)

Buffrat · 10-16-2014, 12:09 AM

Cont: Hoist
Cus I was looking to see what stat it wanted us to debuff, and it was Agility!

Also: There's a hole in the invisible wall beneath the zipline that I fell through and ended up in the water near the boats on the bottom level.

The first named Salty Dan kept porting 3000 meters away and resetting. The second name's add's weapon is set to do way too high damage. was meleeing the tank with 15k out of combat mit for >2 million and us poor dps for >5 million.

Gninja · 10-16-2014, 12:51 AM

Alerted Art guys!

Will check it out.

Buffrat · 10-16-2014, 10:49 PM

Bilgewater Falls:

First named (Barnacle Bill) has an extra digit in his hp. I feel like it should be 770 million and not 7.7 billion.

Also the beta buff in this zone is broken and keeps increasing your max hp. By a lot. Over and over.

ElectricPotato · 10-17-2014, 06:27 AM

Bilge Water Falls Heroic
HP a little high on bosses***
Bipsie had blue adds, and died like a solo boss.
Smooth duncan: let him be attackable when he bladestorms, give bladestorms more hp
Captain: Adds seemed like they had more hp than the boss. Got stacks of bilgewater with more adds. Hrrrmph

Zone buff is super wrong and snowballing hp constantly. SOmething is freezing up the zone bad, real bad at times.

Ucala · 10-17-2014, 07:05 AM

the dot on the boss (captain) about crashing waves hits way way too hard.

also the curse applies too fast for 1 healer to manage

in the zone brokenskull bay, Bilgewater Falls zone

Gninja · 10-17-2014, 04:28 PM

Will check out Bipsie. You are not meant to just stand there while he does his bladestorm. It should be really punishing if you do that. I can let him be attackable but that would mean he can cross thresholds more than once before ending his bladestorm which would cause issues.

For the Captain you can avoid Crashing Waves if you react to it. I will check out the hp on the adds as well.

Ucala · 10-17-2014, 09:29 PM

Hoist the Yellow Jack --

the 2nd to last name is a bit interesting.
the det window though only shows 1 when really there is up to 6 that needs to be cured.
also pretty sure the shark will eat anyone on the plank, not just the person that was ported to the plank.

Boss --
at 75% when he ports to summon a storm or whatever he breaks the encounter and resets

corruptbiker · 10-18-2014, 05:15 PM

this is my feed back of this zone. Ran this zone last night good zone I liked it trash was just that trash seem to burn down easy enough the first few boss seem out of balance for the zone and I will list the feed back and reasons why. We have 3 People in the group doing 5mill dps each on the names.

First boss has 7.7 billion HP need to drop a zero off this name other then that tank and spank

Second boss had 7.6 billion HP again need to drop a zero off this name other then that was a good fight as long as you cured right.

Third Boss needs a zero or too added to her Hp couldn't tell what total HP number was causes we killed her so fast it was a surprise compared to the first Two names
we faced

Fourth Boss was prefect this boss to me seemed like the only boss that was tuned right for the zone. Hp and Add wise so great job dev team

Last Boss We didn't kill the last name the damage output seemed really high getting one shoted for 2.4million was a kick in the face the AOE is easily joust-able and adds seem to have way too much HP for adds

Going to try the zone again in full MC gear tonight so maybe will have better result with the last name

fiyy · 10-19-2014, 12:10 AM

Private stock:

First named(Gamut Berogg) of the ring event just got turned and burned, didn't see to be many issues, possibly too easy? took us 48 seconds with 17 million group dps.

Second named (Eggtender Varogg) with the adds and detarget was interesting, ended up burning the adds to try and avoid stack up of them with the detarget. This named felt well balanced for our group, ended up with only 10mil group dps on this one.

Third named (Veerach the Vile) was very difficult, I don't think the encounter was working the way it was intended. The tank would get the vile because if anyone else did they would get blasted by the named. Once we got situated with that it was okay for a bit, the incurable curse would hit too random people, didn't seem to have much issue for us. Then the poison would hit, we assumed the vial hotbar would be used to remove the poison but it didn't seem to have any effect on it. We ended up just healing and burning through it with 20 mil group dps (36 second fight) I think the fight either needs tuning for that damage, or the vial wasn't working properly.

After that named Bosun just stands there stunned and doing nothing, we got no achievement for the zone is it done or broken?

Ucala · 10-19-2014, 11:33 PM

I don't know how this has got past everyone.

Hoist -- first name
the insta locks on the first name is awful, the clones have too much hp and we end up just playfully AoEing the main name down Tongue

seems rather dumb

Yajirushi62 · 10-20-2014, 02:42 AM

The x2 named in Hoist the Yellow Jack is not awarding his achievement.
Captain Krasnok the Immortal

Jaelissa · 10-20-2014, 02:53 AM

same here did not get the achivement for the kill of the captain in Hoist the Yellow Jack. also the first named target locks and you cant get it off other than dying.
for the captain we can get cannon balls from the little gadgets but cant do anything with them are they supposed to be used in the cannons that we can move? cant do anything with the cannons other than move them.

Gninja · 10-20-2014, 03:01 AM

Achievements are still in the works for heroics. Will make sure it gets in asap

Gninja · 10-20-2014, 03:02 AM

You cannot load the cannons unless they are placed in a location where they can be fired. I will add some messaging for that.

Jaelissa · 10-20-2014, 03:32 AM

Ahh Ok. I figured there must be some use for them but guess we just didnt hit any of the right spots. Cool zone btw.

Ucala · 10-20-2014, 03:32 AM

his radiating det really pushes healers to the max, I don't think it should be doing so much damage tbh (boss in hoist that is)

Gninja · 10-20-2014, 03:33 AM

not going to mess with damage too much right now since the zone buffs are still a little unstable. Once we get that worked out I can make a determination about the damage he is doing.

Ucala · 10-21-2014, 05:27 AM

Killed boss in Hoist of the Yellow Jack
group didn't get achievement.
Ucalax, Gigglezzzx, Falido, Moonburstx, Fisso, and Anghammarad all need the achievement for the kill of the boss as of 11:20 pm (central time).

group was illy, necro, monk, troub, fury, inq.
group dps was 8.3 mil
fight was 8:55 not a fight for a group of average joes.
really the memwipe on the fight is what makes it a real challenge, other than the damage det doing way way too much, it does more than half the names dps.
also I feel you should be able to dps the name while he is overboard in the water.

also his adds that come on the ship while he is overboard has next to no hp.

I need my achievement!

10-15-2014, 06:05 PM	#2
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “Private stock.-- couldn't even find the first name in the zone after looking all over” We are likely moving the zone in point to the bottom of the really long ramp. The named ring event will start when you kill the Pirates fighting the Urzarachs in the large open room at the bottom of the ramps. Ucala said: ↑ “Honet Yack -- the first names uncurable det (trauma) named Abondon Ship hits way too hard, unless there is a way to block it, we all got trucked right at the start of the fight” Hoist the Yellow Jack? heh. Will check out the det. It might be something you are missing but I will double check it just in case. What were your levels, hp, and resists values because those will matter a great deal in there?

10-15-2014, 06:36 PM	#3
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Gninja said: ↑ “We are likely moving the zone in point to the bottom of the really long ramp. The named ring event will start when you kill the Pirates fighting the Urzarachs in the large open room at the bottom of the ramps. Hoist the Yellow Jack? heh. Will check out the det. It might be something you are missing but I will double check it just in case. What were your levels, hp, and resists values because those will matter a great deal in there?” ahh the ring event. that would explain some things I guess. and yea Hoist. I was 100, tank was 98, dirge was 98, fury was 99, and we had an assassin also 98. I wouldn't know all those values itself, but the zone didn't give us a zone buff if that's what you mean, so we basically had the same values as we do in ToV

10-15-2014, 06:37 PM	#4
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “ahh the ring event. that would explain some things I guess. and yea Hoist. I was 100, tank was 98, dirge was 98, fury was 99, and we had an assassin also 98. I wouldn't know all those values itself, but the zone didn't give us a zone buff if that's what you mean, so we basically had the same values as we do in ToV” That was likely the issue. We will try to get that resolved.

10-15-2014, 06:38 PM	#5
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Gninja said: ↑ “That was likely the issue. We will try to get that resolved.” well you should send word about the others, nearly all the zones we tried didn't give zone buffs (except for Lost Caverns) out of the like 5 zones we went to

10-15-2014, 06:40 PM	#6
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “well you should send word about the others, nearly all the zones we tried didn't give zone buffs (except for Lost Caverns) out of the like 5 zones we went to” I just verified with the team that the issue has been fixed and should be part of the beta build that gets pushed to servers late tonight.

10-15-2014, 03:43 AM	#1
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Private stock.-- couldn't even find the first name in the zone after looking all over Honet Yack -- the first names uncurable det (trauma) named Abondon Ship hits way too hard, unless there is a way to block it, we all got trucked right at the start of the fight

10-15-2014, 10:14 PM	#7
Yajirushi62 Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Will the buffs actually work? I'm having issues getting the AS buffs to work Gninja

10-15-2014, 10:16 PM	#8
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Caith was reviewing them all this morning. he said he worked out the issue. I haven't been able to personally test them myself but I saw them in the upcoming patch and verified with Bunji that it was included.

10-15-2014, 11:36 PM	#9
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Why is a mob named Triage Medic tagged as a Scout mob?

10-15-2014, 11:38 PM	#10
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Buffrat said: ↑ “Why is a mob named Triage Medic tagged as a Scout mob?” Because he um... scouts for local medicines to add to his medicine bag... yeah that's it...

10-15-2014, 11:45 PM	#11
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Buffrat said: ↑ “Why is a mob named Triage Medic tagged as a Scout mob?” What would make you think he was a scout though? He shouldn't have been using scout abilities. Though you were right his base class was set to swashy.

10-15-2014, 11:57 PM	#12
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	well if the patch already happened, the buffs still aren't in (I assume it did since you can buff to 100 with baubles now)

10-16-2014, 12:09 AM	#13
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Gninja said: ↑ “What would make you think he was a scout though? He shouldn't have been using scout abilities. Though you were right his base class was set to swashy.” Cont: Hoist Cus I was looking to see what stat it wanted us to debuff, and it was Agility! Also: There's a hole in the invisible wall beneath the zipline that I fell through and ended up in the water near the boats on the bottom level. The first named Salty Dan kept porting 3000 meters away and resetting. The second name's add's weapon is set to do way too high damage. was meleeing the tank with 15k out of combat mit for >2 million and us poor dps for >5 million.

10-16-2014, 12:51 AM	#14
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Buffrat said: ↑ “Cont: Hoist Also: There's a hole in the invisible wall beneath the zipline that I fell through and ended up in the water near the boats on the bottom level.” Alerted Art guys! Buffrat said: ↑ “The first named Salty Dan kept porting 3000 meters away and resetting. The second name's add's weapon is set to do way too high damage. was meleeing the tank with 15k out of combat mit for >2 million and us poor dps for >5 million.” Will check it out.

10-16-2014, 10:49 PM	#15
Buffrat Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Bilgewater Falls: First named (Barnacle Bill) has an extra digit in his hp. I feel like it should be 770 million and not 7.7 billion. Also the beta buff in this zone is broken and keeps increasing your max hp. By a lot. Over and over.

10-17-2014, 06:27 AM	#16
ElectricPotato Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Bilge Water Falls Heroic HP a little high on bosses*** Bipsie had blue adds, and died like a solo boss. Smooth duncan: let him be attackable when he bladestorms, give bladestorms more hp Captain: Adds seemed like they had more hp than the boss. Got stacks of bilgewater with more adds. Hrrrmph Zone buff is super wrong and snowballing hp constantly. SOmething is freezing up the zone bad, real bad at times.

10-17-2014, 07:05 AM	#17
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	the dot on the boss (captain) about crashing waves hits way way too hard. also the curse applies too fast for 1 healer to manage in the zone brokenskull bay, Bilgewater Falls zone

10-17-2014, 04:28 PM	#18
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	ElectricPotato said: ↑ “Bilge Water Falls Heroic HP a little high on bosses*** Bipsie had blue adds, and died like a solo boss. Smooth duncan: let him be attackable when he bladestorms, give bladestorms more hp Captain: Adds seemed like they had more hp than the boss. Got stacks of bilgewater with more adds. Hrrrmph Zone buff is super wrong and snowballing hp constantly. SOmething is freezing up the zone bad, real bad at times.” Will check out Bipsie. You are not meant to just stand there while he does his bladestorm. It should be really punishing if you do that. I can let him be attackable but that would mean he can cross thresholds more than once before ending his bladestorm which would cause issues. For the Captain you can avoid Crashing Waves if you react to it. I will check out the hp on the adds as well.

10-17-2014, 09:29 PM	#19
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Hoist the Yellow Jack -- the 2nd to last name is a bit interesting. the det window though only shows 1 when really there is up to 6 that needs to be cured. also pretty sure the shark will eat anyone on the plank, not just the person that was ported to the plank. Boss -- at 75% when he ports to summon a storm or whatever he breaks the encounter and resets

10-18-2014, 05:15 PM	#20
corruptbiker Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	this is my feed back of this zone. Ran this zone last night good zone I liked it trash was just that trash seem to burn down easy enough the first few boss seem out of balance for the zone and I will list the feed back and reasons why. We have 3 People in the group doing 5mill dps each on the names. First boss has 7.7 billion HP need to drop a zero off this name other then that tank and spank Second boss had 7.6 billion HP again need to drop a zero off this name other then that was a good fight as long as you cured right. Third Boss needs a zero or too added to her Hp couldn't tell what total HP number was causes we killed her so fast it was a surprise compared to the first Two names we faced Fourth Boss was prefect this boss to me seemed like the only boss that was tuned right for the zone. Hp and Add wise so great job dev team Last Boss We didn't kill the last name the damage output seemed really high getting one shoted for 2.4million was a kick in the face the AOE is easily joust-able and adds seem to have way too much HP for adds Going to try the zone again in full MC gear tonight so maybe will have better result with the last name

10-19-2014, 12:10 AM	#21
fiyy Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Private stock: First named(Gamut Berogg) of the ring event just got turned and burned, didn't see to be many issues, possibly too easy? took us 48 seconds with 17 million group dps. Second named (Eggtender Varogg) with the adds and detarget was interesting, ended up burning the adds to try and avoid stack up of them with the detarget. This named felt well balanced for our group, ended up with only 10mil group dps on this one. Third named (Veerach the Vile) was very difficult, I don't think the encounter was working the way it was intended. The tank would get the vile because if anyone else did they would get blasted by the named. Once we got situated with that it was okay for a bit, the incurable curse would hit too random people, didn't seem to have much issue for us. Then the poison would hit, we assumed the vial hotbar would be used to remove the poison but it didn't seem to have any effect on it. We ended up just healing and burning through it with 20 mil group dps (36 second fight) I think the fight either needs tuning for that damage, or the vial wasn't working properly. After that named Bosun just stands there stunned and doing nothing, we got no achievement for the zone is it done or broken?

10-19-2014, 11:33 PM	#22
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	I don't know how this has got past everyone. Hoist -- first name the insta locks on the first name is awful, the clones have too much hp and we end up just playfully AoEing the main name down seems rather dumb

10-20-2014, 02:42 AM	#23
Yajirushi62 Active Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	The x2 named in Hoist the Yellow Jack is not awarding his achievement. Captain Krasnok the Immortal

10-20-2014, 02:53 AM	#24
Jaelissa New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	same here did not get the achivement for the kill of the captain in Hoist the Yellow Jack. also the first named target locks and you cant get it off other than dying. for the captain we can get cannon balls from the little gadgets but cant do anything with them are they supposed to be used in the cannons that we can move? cant do anything with the cannons other than move them.

10-20-2014, 03:01 AM	#25
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Achievements are still in the works for heroics. Will make sure it gets in asap

10-20-2014, 03:02 AM	#26
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Jaelissa said: ↑ “same here did not get the achivement for the kill of the captain in Hoist the Yellow Jack. also the first named target locks and you cant get it off other than dying. for the captain we can get cannon balls from the little gadgets but cant do anything with them are they supposed to be used in the cannons that we can move? cant do anything with the cannons other than move them.” You cannot load the cannons unless they are placed in a location where they can be fired. I will add some messaging for that.

10-20-2014, 03:32 AM	#27
Jaelissa New Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ahh Ok. I figured there must be some use for them but guess we just didnt hit any of the right spots. Cool zone btw.

10-20-2014, 03:33 AM	#29
Gninja Developer Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Ucala said: ↑ “his radiating det really pushes healers to the max, I don't think it should be doing so much damage tbh (boss in hoist that is)” not going to mess with damage too much right now since the zone buffs are still a little unstable. Once we get that worked out I can make a determination about the damage he is doing.

10-21-2014, 05:27 AM	#30
Ucala Well-Known Member Join Date: Jan 1970 Posts: 0	Killed boss in Hoist of the Yellow Jack group didn't get achievement. Ucalax, Gigglezzzx, Falido, Moonburstx, Fisso, and Anghammarad all need the achievement for the kill of the boss as of 11:20 pm (central time). group was illy, necro, monk, troub, fury, inq. group dps was 8.3 mil fight was 8:55 not a fight for a group of average joes. really the memwipe on the fight is what makes it a real challenge, other than the damage det doing way way too much, it does more than half the names dps. also I feel you should be able to dps the name while he is overboard in the water. also his adds that come on the ship while he is overboard has next to no hp. I need my achievement!