Non-recurring Subscriptions

Piestro · 06-08-2012, 09:41 PM

Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.

We apologize for any confusion.

SlashnGut · 06-09-2012, 04:02 AM

Another way to chase away people who try to play your games?

Kinya · 06-09-2012, 06:59 AM

Piestro wrote:

Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.

Piestro, could you clarify this pls? I am a bit confused...

So do we have those subscriptions back for a week as Smed wrote in his post, or we got them back for now and in a seperate post you will inform us exactly when they will be removed so it can take more than a week?

And I really hope it will take more than a week SMILEY

feldon30 · 06-09-2012, 09:04 AM

Hakdagutz@Butcherblock wrote:

Another way to chase away people who try to play your games?

EQ2 costs $15 a month. The days of being able to get an EQ2 sub for $1.25 a month or free (with Plat) are ending. There will be a 1 week grace period to buy as much EQ2 subscription time as you want. Years if you want. SMILEY

Gorekin · 06-09-2012, 09:49 AM

1 week is pointless. I not sure where soe is going anymore. I been playing eq2 since it was in beta and now I am actually thinking maybe try something else. I don;t think you guys are thinking of the people who play the game. You can only toy with people so long. I know a lot of people who are moving on cause of this change. Trust me I am a loyal to eq2 ...just now don't know maybe after all theses years time to go to another game. I know the voice thing will be cool but to honest i would rather you add real voices in game( current games do this) ......You guys gave us things and we grew to like them then you just take them away...

You only make money when people play EQ2...If you tick them off you will lose money...

Look at what starwars did....and now it is gone

Juravael · 06-09-2012, 01:20 PM

Piestro wrote:

Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.

Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.

Ahlana · 06-09-2012, 01:29 PM

Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Piestro wrote:
Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.
Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.

How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers.

The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys.

akin99 · 06-09-2012, 05:02 PM

Ahlana wrote:

Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Piestro wrote:
Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.
Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.
How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers.
The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys.

It affects my ability to buy Expansions! Even the small bonus of 2000sc for $15 on walmart cards makes a big difference to multi account holders like myself.

Juravael · 06-09-2012, 07:25 PM

Ahlana wrote:

Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Piestro wrote:
Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.
Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.
How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers.
The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys.

1.) My finances. Which is why I stated and underlined the word MY in my post. My ability to pay $15 a month to play a game has been taken away due to unforeseen circumstances. Other bills take priority over a computer game subscription, no matter how much I enjoy playing it. This is why I cancelled my 8+ year old monthly CC subscription last month and converted my account to a non-recurring gold membership.

2.) I never have and I never will purchase a game card in-game using plat. I'm hard pressed to spend 500p or so, which is most of what I have anyhow, on the hopes that the person selling the game card does not give a false or already used code. I see it all of the time on Antonia Bayle in the auction channel where so-and-so sold a bad card and logged out on the buyer and SOE will not do a thing about that if it happens.

gourdon · 06-11-2012, 08:18 PM

akin99 wrote:

Ahlana wrote:
Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Piestro wrote:
Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs.
We apologize for any confusion.
Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.
How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers.
The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys.
It affects my ability to buy Expansions! Even the small bonus of 2000sc for $15 on walmart cards makes a big difference to multi account holders like myself.

You can still use Walmart cards to buy one month and 500SC, or if you pay $15/month recurring, then you will still get 500SC per month. Since expansions can still be purchased with SC, there will be no change for you in this regard.

jeremiya-bullfrog · 06-12-2012, 01:13 AM

i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency.

IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that.

player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing.

if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX.

Juravael · 06-12-2012, 09:03 AM

jeremiya-bullfrog wrote:

i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency.
IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that.
player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing.
if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX.

Good idea.

If they did something like this then I would consider buying game time in game using in game currency as long as I had enough plat to keep my subscription going on a month by month basis. As it stands now there is no chance in hell that I would risk it. Too many people get ripped off constantly.

LadyMist · 06-12-2012, 12:46 PM

jeremiya-bullfrog wrote:

i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency.
IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that.
player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing.
if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX.

Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again?

They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it.

I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud

jeremiya-bullfrog · 06-12-2012, 04:41 PM

LadyMist wrote:

jeremiya-bullfrog wrote:
i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency.
IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that.
player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing.
if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX.
Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again?
They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it.
I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud

well if it's done this way then SOE will know SOMEONE is paying for everyone's time, and there would not be anymore problems with people getting scammed out of hundreds of plat.

the way it was with the nonrecurring subs in the SC in game window meant that someone coujld only pay 2, 3 bucks for a months game time (thanks to taking advantage of all the various bonus SC days, etc) .... my way (well, eve's way) would mean that everytime a 15$ code is turned into an item, and that item is redeemed in game, that SOMEONE paid 15 bones for that code. who redeems it is really immaterial to them isnt it?

alaplayer · 06-12-2012, 06:30 PM

LadyMist wrote:

Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again?
Why? Why shouldn't they? The only thing it will do is increase subscriptions. You can gift a mount to someone, you can gift an outfit to someone, you can't gift sub time to someone, can't gift an expansion. WHY? There is no justifiable reason for such idiocy on their behalf. It would take a minimal amount of effort for these items to be turned into a 'useable' item, just like the character slot expanders which CAN BE GIFTED lol. That is the only thing I have ever bought with plat. Why do YOU care where the cards come from? For that matter how would you even KNOW how someone paid their sub? If they pay it by giving plat to someone that wants to spend their RL money on game cards and sell them for X amount of plat in game SOE is still making money. I swear it seems like there are people that are too thick to grasp that concept. Do not sell non recurring subs for SC, fine, but they should make the same discount available to people that want to use multiple cards to pay in advance. You can't buy into this garbage from the assorted 'damaged goods' that are posting about a secret SLR mafia
They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it.
They never really said anything I would consider discouraging it, they said they do not endorse it and will not become involved in disputes.
I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud
That has no relevance in any way to the topic at hand here, none whatsoever.

kullaili · 06-12-2012, 10:11 PM

What, Why I ask i have over 16k in station cash that I cant use becuase I cant buy a membership but you want me to put a card up to play. Well I dont put cards anymore not since your hacking but I guess untill you open your eyes and let us buy non-recurring subscriptions i guess ill just play WoW or something (btw dont pay with a card for that one as well

BillieJoe108 · 06-12-2012, 10:17 PM

Really hope they get PayByCash/Ultimate Gamecard to start supporting their games again, otherwise I'll be out of a subscription too, mainly based on the factor that my only payment options for PC games are PayPal and gamecards, which stores around here don't seem to carry SOE's anymore...

rowanleigh · 06-12-2012, 11:40 PM

Piestro:

Do you mean using station cash for non-recurring subs is being done away with? Or do you mean that all non-recurring subscriptions are being done away with, and time cards will no longer be allowed at all, even if redeemed on SOE website for time in game?

The way you worded this makes it sound like recurring is the only way to go, and you are doing away with non-recurring all together even if we buy time cards at Gamestop/Wal-mart to redeem at the SOE account page for monthly time.

and as your customer service can attest, my debit and my credit card is not usuable on your website. We have gone round and round with this, I say to your CS department the cards are good, they tell me my CC/Debit card companies don't allow the subscription, my Card companies say they do, and we always end up playing the same game of "it's not us, it's them".

Time cards are the only way I can pay for my sub according to your CS department. A paypal option like Netflix offers would be fantastic. Any chance of that happening if you do away with time cards used for non-recurring subs?

Thank you.

Cratoh · 06-13-2012, 03:47 AM

It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so.

Some answers, clarification, thanks SMILEY

feldon30 · 06-13-2012, 07:01 AM

kullaili wrote:

What, Why I ask i have over 16k in station cash that I cant use becuase I cant buy a membership but you want me to put a card up to play. Well I dont put cards anymore not since your hacking but I guess untill you open your eyes and let us buy non-recurring subscriptions i guess ill just play WoW or something (btw dont pay with a card for that one as well

You've been given 1 week to buy non-recurring subscriptions with StationCash. What are you waiting for?

Cratoh wrote:

It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so.
Some answers, clarification, thanks

If you buy a card that says "1500 StationCash or 30-days Game Time" then you can obviously use it for 30 days of game time. What you will not be able to do after this week, is fund an EQ2 subscription with StationCash, whether your $15 bought you 1500SC or 12,000SC.

General_Info · 06-13-2012, 07:04 AM

Cratoh wrote:

It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so.
Some answers, clarification, thanks

wether or not subs can be purchased with SC you can still use the gamecards to claim gametime all it means is instead of claiming it as SC you have to directly claim it as gametime rather then storing the 1500SC for a rebate event as well as storing the cards for a double/triple weekend and then purchasing discounted sub time with SC (or converting it to sc for the occassional 500SC bonus).

all this means for those that use game cards is you cant get discounted subscriptions unelss the cards themselves are discounted at the retailer.

Juravael · 06-13-2012, 09:04 AM

General_Info wrote:

Cratoh wrote:
It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so.
Some answers, clarification, thanks
wether or not subs can be purchased with SC you can still use the gamecards to claim gametime all it means is instead of claiming it as SC you have to directly claim it as gametime rather then storing the 1500SC for a rebate event as well as storing the cards for a double/triple weekend and then purchasing discounted sub time with SC (or converting it to sc for the occassional 500SC bonus).
all this means for those that use game cards is you cant get discounted subscriptions unelss the cards themselves are discounted at the retailer.

So unless you use a CC to subscribe going forward there is no way to purchase game time in blocks ( 3, 6,12 months ) at a discounted rate. That is not fair.

According to Smedley's post the removal of non-recurring subs had NOTHING to do with the sc promotions.

Raienya · 06-15-2012, 08:15 PM

Just checked the facebook page and found this:

On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback!

Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it.

Piestro · 06-15-2012, 08:25 PM

Raienya wrote:

Just checked the facebook page and found this:
On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback!
Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=519222 Just in case people have missed it.

Juravael · 06-15-2012, 09:48 PM

Thank you for letting us know Piestro.

The NR Subs are all half price this weekend during the big 50% off sale that they have going on until Monday 6/18 so if you were wanting to sub via that method now would be the time to do it.

This gives me more reason to believe that Smedley was being honest about them not being removed because of the SC promotions.

Sloke · 06-16-2012, 12:16 AM

Piestro wrote:

Raienya wrote:
Just checked the facebook page and found this:
On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback!
Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it.
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=519222 Just in case people have missed it.

I am posting this in this thread as well per a suggestion from SOE's support staff. He linked it for me to do so. I am not spamming the forums to be heard. I am just doing what I was told.

I have been a loyal Gold member of Everquest 2 since launch. Prior to that I had been a loyal Gold member of EQ1 for almost 3 years. During that time, I spent 2-3 years as an All Access member paying $29.99 a month. Until recently, we had always paid for our accounts via a monthly credit card transaction. I say "we" reffering to me and my wife. A couple of years back, my wife and I happened upon some financial hardships surrounding an illness and eventual death of a family member. My wife made the sacrifice and let her account lapse to save the monthly fees. She would not hear of me doing the same, since I truly enjoyed the game so much more. When you allowed players to start paying via SC, it was a blessing for us. We were able to take advantage of the SC sales from time to time, while removing the worry of adding to our credit card balance every month. Honestly, things were THAT tight. So paying for a years subscription via SC was a godsend, and for that we thank you. However, with the recent fiasco involving pulling the non-recurring subscription off of the marketplace with NO warning (I pay close attention to things like this in the forums), I must say I am appauled at what I logged in to see today! Smed posted that he would have the non-recurring memberships put back up for a week so folks could use the SC they had saved strictly for the purpose of purchasing one year subscriptions, including me and my wife. So, last night I did what I thought was the right thing to do and on day 7, I purchased 2 one year non-recurring memberships for my wife and I in anticipation of this feature being pulled. What do you folks do after telling everyone to make sure ya do it in a week....? You put it on sale for 50% off on day 8! I am sickened that almost $120 of our SC has just been wasted merely a few hours prior, on YOUR ADVICE! I know the policy on no returns or refunds, but how can your company honestly say this was a fair manuver? At this point, I feel betrayed and lied too. I am not a sucker for SOE to lure into deminishing my stockpile of SC that we hoarded and saved to spend on the items that we so much wanted to spend them on. This is WRONG and should have been announced!!! Please see what can be done to recitify this and make amends to the honest, hard working families that have been so loyal to your company for so many years. Sincerely, Sloke Silverwind...AKA a real life person named Bradley.

Shadeyblades · 06-17-2012, 06:47 PM

alaplayer wrote:

LadyMist wrote:
Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again?
Why? Why shouldn't they? The only thing it will do is increase subscriptions. You can gift a mount to someone, you can gift an outfit to someone, you can't gift sub time to someone, can't gift an expansion. WHY? There is no justifiable reason for such idiocy on their behalf. It would take a minimal amount of effort for these items to be turned into a 'useable' item, just like the character slot expanders which CAN BE GIFTED lol. That is the only thing I have ever bought with plat. Why do YOU care where the cards come from? For that matter how would you even KNOW how someone paid their sub? If they pay it by giving plat to someone that wants to spend their RL money on game cards and sell them for X amount of plat in game SOE is still making money. I swear it seems like there are people that are too thick to grasp that concept. Do not sell non recurring subs for SC, fine, but they should make the same discount available to people that want to use multiple cards to pay in advance. You can't buy into this garbage from the assorted 'damaged goods' that are posting about a secret SLR mafia
They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it.
They never really said anything I would consider discouraging it, they said they do not endorse it and will not become involved in disputes.
I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud
That has no relevance in any way to the topic at hand here, none whatsoever.

They shouldn't because all you will be doing is paying for their game with their fake money, profits go down. Eve I agree sucked and yes it is mentioned in this thread twice oh orange typing one. Maybe if you read whole posts instead of half you could respond to them right instead of griefing

Lord Locton · 06-28-2012, 07:53 AM

Sorry, somehow I missed that there was a main topic and posted this in piestro's post. I'll amend that as moved to here.

Hi,

I have a point I need to raise. You re-instated the purchase of non recurring memberships with station cash for a short period but still removed it on the Monday 18th June, this is unfair to anyone who did not see this post or was not even aware that the station cash purchase had been removed. Anyone playing EQ2 and buying Non recurring memberships will only attempt to buy one when their existing membership runs out.

I have a disabled son who plays EQ2 and uses station cash to renew his membership. He has over 4000 SC in his wallet and only uses it for membership renewal. The Station cash was purchased for him as a present specifically to renew his membership as and when required. His non recurring membership ran out on the 20th June and he tried to renew it at that time, only to discover that you had removed the option to do so. How does reinstating the option to buy non recuring memberships for a short period help those who have station cash for the purpose and yet did not know that the option had been removed.

I have contacted SoE customer support who were less than helpful but did give me the email address of a customer services manager. However that prooved to be usless as well as the manager has chosen to ignore my email regarding this matter. My email was sent on the 20th June, as yet I have not had a reply.

My gut feeling is that when SoE offered a means to purchase a non recurring membership through the Station cash store they encouraged players to purchase station cash specifically for that purpose. By removing the option without addressing the problem of players that already have station cash in their wallets ready to purchase memberships they have obtained funds illegally.

Please get this option reinstated and find a way to remove it without leaving members out of pocket i.e. have accounts flagged that had station cash in them prior to a fixed date allowing them to purchase non recurring memberships with the station cash they had already purchased. Add a note to the non recurring membership option that only station cash purchased before the said date can be used to purchase the non recurring membership. Then players could not buy Station cash specifically for memberships and those that did will be able to buy the memberships untill their station cash bought for this purpose has run out.

Onurissa · 06-28-2012, 08:57 AM

I feel for your son, i have a disabled son too. However the Non-recurring was placed back on for just over a week, to allow people to get their subs renewed. Everyone was talking about it in almost every channel, so hard to believe you didnt notice it, even if you didnt see forum. They already did right thing by allowing people to use their SC that way, in fact they even ran a 50% off sale ON those said Non-recurring SC subs, to even allow those with lots of SC to really take advantage of them being back on marketplace. At this point, theres not much they will do for you im sure. They may return to marketplace, they may not in future. You can still buy SC cards to pay for a month for him though.

Lord Locton · 06-28-2012, 09:20 AM

Onurissa@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I feel for your son, i have a disabled son too. However the Non-recurring was placed back on for just over a week, to allow people to get their subs renewed. Everyone was talking about it in almost every channel, so hard to believe you didnt notice it, even if you didnt see forum. They already did right thing by allowing people to use their SC that way, in fact they even ran a 50% off sale ON those said Non-recurring SC subs, to even allow those with lots of SC to really take advantage of them being back on marketplace. At this point, theres not much they will do for you im sure. They may return to marketplace, they may not in future. You can still buy SC cards to pay for a month for him though.

Thank you for your comments but discussions in 'in game chat' will have gone unseen. Personally I played EQ2 from launch to about a 2 years ago. I came back for a short run around the creation of the Freeport server but I have not played the game for at least 3 months. My disabled son does not group or read the chat channels because he would not be able to play the game with the same, shall we say enthusiasm as most. He is partially sighted and everything takes him time to achieve. Having said that he gets great enjoyment form his level 92 conjuror and is perfectly happy soloing with a merc and his pets. He might be a rare beast in that he plays an online game by himself but thats his thing.

The point I am making is that SoE owes it to every subscriber to ensure that they all receive fair treatment. If station cash was purchased soley for the purpose of buying their membership and before SoEs decision to remove the option from the station cash store they should have made certain that none of their members would be out of pocket by putting in place a mechanism to catch all those that slip through the net. Relying on word getting round through the chat channels or the forums isn't really good enough... just my opinion.

06-08-2012, 09:41 PM	#1
Piestro Community Relations Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 481	Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. __________________ -Piestro EverQuest Community Relations Manager

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06-09-2012, 06:59 AM	#3
Kinya Server: Splitpaw Guild: Runnyeye Raiding Club Rank: Boss Fansite Staff Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 86	Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Piestro, could you clarify this pls? I am a bit confused... So do we have those subscriptions back for a week as Smed wrote in his post, or we got them back for now and in a seperate post you will inform us exactly when they will be removed so it can take more than a week? And I really hope it will take more than a week __________________ http://babagra.pl - Polish Everquest 2 Fansite

06-09-2012, 09:04 AM	#4
feldon30 Fansite Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,424	Hakdagutz@Butcherblock wrote: Another way to chase away people who try to play your games? EQ2 costs $15 a month. The days of being able to get an EQ2 sub for $1.25 a month or free (with Plat) are ending. There will be a 1 week grace period to buy as much EQ2 subscription time as you want. Years if you want. __________________ .. EQ2Wire.com \| EQ2U - Character, Item, Spell, and Guild Data

06-09-2012, 01:20 PM	#6
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good.

06-09-2012, 09:49 AM	#5
Gorekin Server: Crushbone Guild: Epic Rank: Elder Tester Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 62	1 week is pointless. I not sure where soe is going anymore. I been playing eq2 since it was in beta and now I am actually thinking maybe try something else. I don;t think you guys are thinking of the people who play the game. You can only toy with people so long. I know a lot of people who are moving on cause of this change. Trust me I am a loyal to eq2 ...just now don't know maybe after all theses years time to go to another game. I know the voice thing will be cool but to honest i would rather you add real voices in game( current games do this) ......You guys gave us things and we grew to like them then you just take them away... You only make money when people play EQ2...If you tick them off you will lose money... Look at what starwars did....and now it is gone

06-09-2012, 01:29 PM	#7
Ahlana Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,238	Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote: Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good. How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers. The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys. __________________

06-09-2012, 05:02 PM	#8
akin99 Lord Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 60	Ahlana wrote: Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote: Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good. How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers. The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys. It affects my ability to buy Expansions! Even the small bonus of 2000sc for $15 on walmart cards makes a big difference to multi account holders like myself.

06-09-2012, 07:25 PM	#9
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	Ahlana wrote: Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote: Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good. How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers. The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys. 1.) My finances. Which is why I stated and underlined the word MY in my post. My ability to pay $15 a month to play a game has been taken away due to unforeseen circumstances. Other bills take priority over a computer game subscription, no matter how much I enjoy playing it. This is why I cancelled my 8+ year old monthly CC subscription last month and converted my account to a non-recurring gold membership. 2.) I never have and I never will purchase a game card in-game using plat. I'm hard pressed to spend 500p or so, which is most of what I have anyhow, on the hopes that the person selling the game card does not give a false or already used code. I see it all of the time on Antonia Bayle in the auction channel where so-and-so sold a bad card and logged out on the buyer and SOE will not do a thing about that if it happens.

06-11-2012, 08:18 PM	#10
gourdon Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 632	akin99 wrote: Ahlana wrote: Glenedhel@Antonia Bayle wrote: Piestro wrote: Some of you may have noticed that non-recurring subscriptions are no longer available on the Marketplace. This change was premature, and the option will be restored. However, we do intend to discontinue offering non-recurring subscriptions in the near future, and we will be sure to let you know in advance when this occurs. We apologize for any confusion. Discontinue for good or temporarily? I would like to know because this impacts my ability to remain a gold member once my current subscription runs out if it is taken away for good. How? You can still buy $15 SC cards and use them for subscriptions at the time of redemption. You could also still buy said cards with Plat through your fellow gamers. The only thing this will affect is buying Subs on Double/Triple SC days and on rebate dys. It affects my ability to buy Expansions! Even the small bonus of 2000sc for $15 on walmart cards makes a big difference to multi account holders like myself. You can still use Walmart cards to buy one month and 500SC, or if you pay $15/month recurring, then you will still get 500SC per month. Since expansions can still be purchased with SC, there will be no change for you in this regard. __________________

06-12-2012, 01:13 AM	#11
jeremiya-bullfrog Master Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2	i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency. IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that. player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing. if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX.

06-12-2012, 09:03 AM	#12
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	jeremiya-bullfrog wrote: i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency. IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that. player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing. if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX. Good idea. If they did something like this then I would consider buying game time in game using in game currency as long as I had enough plat to keep my subscription going on a month by month basis. As it stands now there is no chance in hell that I would risk it. Too many people get ripped off constantly.

06-12-2012, 12:46 PM	#13
LadyMist Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 270	jeremiya-bullfrog wrote: i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency. IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that. player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing. if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX. Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again? They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it. I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud __________________

06-12-2012, 04:41 PM	#14
jeremiya-bullfrog Master Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 2	LadyMist wrote: jeremiya-bullfrog wrote: i thik that if they are going to remove this feature, they should have some sort of truly secure way of trading SOE cards in game via in game currency. IE player 1 buys 20 bucks SC card. goes to SOE website. inputs a code and poof, the card becomes an in game item on his toon of choice that can be redeemed via right click for 2000 SC or 1 month game time +500SC or something like that. player 2 can then buy the in game item from player 1 with plat using the very secure in game trade method or hell, player 1 can brokersell the durn thing. if any of you play eve online as your second game as i do, this should seem familiar as they do it with PLEX. Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again? They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it. I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud well if it's done this way then SOE will know SOMEONE is paying for everyone's time, and there would not be anymore problems with people getting scammed out of hundreds of plat. the way it was with the nonrecurring subs in the SC in game window meant that someone coujld only pay 2, 3 bucks for a months game time (thanks to taking advantage of all the various bonus SC days, etc) .... my way (well, eve's way) would mean that everytime a 15$ code is turned into an item, and that item is redeemed in game, that SOMEONE paid 15 bones for that code. who redeems it is really immaterial to them isnt it?

06-12-2012, 06:30 PM	#15
alaplayer Elder Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 173	LadyMist wrote: Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again? Why? Why shouldn't they? The only thing it will do is increase subscriptions. You can gift a mount to someone, you can gift an outfit to someone, you can't gift sub time to someone, can't gift an expansion. WHY? There is no justifiable reason for such idiocy on their behalf. It would take a minimal amount of effort for these items to be turned into a 'useable' item, just like the character slot expanders which CAN BE GIFTED lol. That is the only thing I have ever bought with plat. Why do YOU care where the cards come from? For that matter how would you even KNOW how someone paid their sub? If they pay it by giving plat to someone that wants to spend their RL money on game cards and sell them for X amount of plat in game SOE is still making money. I swear it seems like there are people that are too thick to grasp that concept. Do not sell non recurring subs for SC, fine, but they should make the same discount available to people that want to use multiple cards to pay in advance. You can't buy into this garbage from the assorted 'damaged goods' that are posting about a secret SLR mafia They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it. They never really said anything I would consider discouraging it, they said they do not endorse it and will not become involved in disputes. I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud That has no relevance in any way to the topic at hand here, none whatsoever.

06-12-2012, 10:11 PM	#16
kullaili Loremaster Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1	What, Why I ask i have over 16k in station cash that I cant use becuase I cant buy a membership but you want me to put a card up to play. Well I dont put cards anymore not since your hacking but I guess untill you open your eyes and let us buy non-recurring subscriptions i guess ill just play WoW or something (btw dont pay with a card for that one as well

06-12-2012, 10:17 PM	#17
BillieJoe108 Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8	Really hope they get PayByCash/Ultimate Gamecard to start supporting their games again, otherwise I'll be out of a subscription too, mainly based on the factor that my only payment options for PC games are PayPal and gamecards, which stores around here don't seem to carry SOE's anymore...

06-12-2012, 11:40 PM	#18
rowanleigh Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 138	Piestro: Do you mean using station cash for non-recurring subs is being done away with? Or do you mean that all non-recurring subscriptions are being done away with, and time cards will no longer be allowed at all, even if redeemed on SOE website for time in game? The way you worded this makes it sound like recurring is the only way to go, and you are doing away with non-recurring all together even if we buy time cards at Gamestop/Wal-mart to redeem at the SOE account page for monthly time. and as your customer service can attest, my debit and my credit card is not usuable on your website. We have gone round and round with this, I say to your CS department the cards are good, they tell me my CC/Debit card companies don't allow the subscription, my Card companies say they do, and we always end up playing the same game of "it's not us, it's them". Time cards are the only way I can pay for my sub according to your CS department. A paypal option like Netflix offers would be fantastic. Any chance of that happening if you do away with time cards used for non-recurring subs? Thank you.

06-13-2012, 03:47 AM	#19
Cratoh Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 458	It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so. Some answers, clarification, thanks __________________ Expand Krono! Expacs/Transfers etc! Forum - 1. a meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest Censorship - deleting parts of publications or correspondence. "Where there is official censorship it is a sign that speech is serious"

06-13-2012, 07:01 AM	#20
feldon30 Fansite Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5,424	kullaili wrote: What, Why I ask i have over 16k in station cash that I cant use becuase I cant buy a membership but you want me to put a card up to play. Well I dont put cards anymore not since your hacking but I guess untill you open your eyes and let us buy non-recurring subscriptions i guess ill just play WoW or something (btw dont pay with a card for that one as well You've been given 1 week to buy non-recurring subscriptions with StationCash. What are you waiting for? Cratoh wrote: It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so. Some answers, clarification, thanks If you buy a card that says "1500 StationCash or 30-days Game Time" then you can obviously use it for 30 days of game time. What you will not be able to do after this week, is fund an EQ2 subscription with StationCash, whether your $15 bought you 1500SC or 12,000SC. __________________ .. EQ2Wire.com \| EQ2U - Character, Item, Spell, and Guild Data

06-13-2012, 07:04 AM	#21
General_Info Lord Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 658	Cratoh wrote: It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so. Some answers, clarification, thanks wether or not subs can be purchased with SC you can still use the gamecards to claim gametime all it means is instead of claiming it as SC you have to directly claim it as gametime rather then storing the 1500SC for a rebate event as well as storing the cards for a double/triple weekend and then purchasing discounted sub time with SC (or converting it to sc for the occassional 500SC bonus). all this means for those that use game cards is you cant get discounted subscriptions unelss the cards themselves are discounted at the retailer. __________________

06-13-2012, 09:04 AM	#22
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	General_Info wrote: Cratoh wrote: It's now been 5 days since your post Piestro, and some of us are waiting for clarification before we decide whether or not we will be deleting eq2 or not, as some of us will plain not be able to play if we cannot use cash cards to do so. Some answers, clarification, thanks wether or not subs can be purchased with SC you can still use the gamecards to claim gametime all it means is instead of claiming it as SC you have to directly claim it as gametime rather then storing the 1500SC for a rebate event as well as storing the cards for a double/triple weekend and then purchasing discounted sub time with SC (or converting it to sc for the occassional 500SC bonus). all this means for those that use game cards is you cant get discounted subscriptions unelss the cards themselves are discounted at the retailer. So unless you use a CC to subscribe going forward there is no way to purchase game time in blocks ( 3, 6,12 months ) at a discounted rate. That is not fair. According to Smedley's post the removal of non-recurring subs had NOTHING to do with the sc promotions.

06-15-2012, 08:15 PM	#23
Raienya Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 202	Just checked the facebook page and found this: On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback! Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it.

06-15-2012, 08:25 PM	#24
Piestro Community Relations Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 481	Raienya wrote: Just checked the facebook page and found this: On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback! Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=519222 Just in case people have missed it. __________________ -Piestro EverQuest Community Relations Manager

06-15-2012, 09:48 PM	#25
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	Thank you for letting us know Piestro. The NR Subs are all half price this weekend during the big 50% off sale that they have going on until Monday 6/18 so if you were wanting to sub via that method now would be the time to do it. This gives me more reason to believe that Smedley was being honest about them not being removed because of the SC promotions.

06-16-2012, 12:16 AM	#26
Sloke Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Legion of Truthseekers Rank: Keeper of the Legion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 37	Piestro wrote: Raienya wrote: Just checked the facebook page and found this: On Monday 18th June, we will remove Station Cash Memberships while we assess the best way to move forward.As always, we thank you for your feedback! Interesting that this hasn't made it to the forums yet (if it has, I haven't seen it, and apologize). Spend that SC this weekend if you have it. http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=519222 Just in case people have missed it. I am posting this in this thread as well per a suggestion from SOE's support staff. He linked it for me to do so. I am not spamming the forums to be heard. I am just doing what I was told. I have been a loyal Gold member of Everquest 2 since launch. Prior to that I had been a loyal Gold member of EQ1 for almost 3 years. During that time, I spent 2-3 years as an All Access member paying $29.99 a month. Until recently, we had always paid for our accounts via a monthly credit card transaction. I say "we" reffering to me and my wife. A couple of years back, my wife and I happened upon some financial hardships surrounding an illness and eventual death of a family member. My wife made the sacrifice and let her account lapse to save the monthly fees. She would not hear of me doing the same, since I truly enjoyed the game so much more. When you allowed players to start paying via SC, it was a blessing for us. We were able to take advantage of the SC sales from time to time, while removing the worry of adding to our credit card balance every month. Honestly, things were THAT tight. So paying for a years subscription via SC was a godsend, and for that we thank you. However, with the recent fiasco involving pulling the non-recurring subscription off of the marketplace with NO warning (I pay close attention to things like this in the forums), I must say I am appauled at what I logged in to see today! Smed posted that he would have the non-recurring memberships put back up for a week so folks could use the SC they had saved strictly for the purpose of purchasing one year subscriptions, including me and my wife. So, last night I did what I thought was the right thing to do and on day 7, I purchased 2 one year non-recurring memberships for my wife and I in anticipation of this feature being pulled. What do you folks do after telling everyone to make sure ya do it in a week....? You put it on sale for 50% off on day 8! I am sickened that almost $120 of our SC has just been wasted merely a few hours prior, on YOUR ADVICE! I know the policy on no returns or refunds, but how can your company honestly say this was a fair manuver? At this point, I feel betrayed and lied too. I am not a sucker for SOE to lure into deminishing my stockpile of SC that we hoarded and saved to spend on the items that we so much wanted to spend them on. This is WRONG and should have been announced!!! Please see what can be done to recitify this and make amends to the honest, hard working families that have been so loyal to your company for so many years. Sincerely, Sloke Silverwind...AKA a real life person named Bradley. __________________

06-17-2012, 06:47 PM	#27
Shadeyblades Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Viking Funeral Rank: Cheiftain Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 9	alaplayer wrote: LadyMist wrote: Why should they secure a way for you to buy cards with the game money you aquire in their game again? Why? Why shouldn't they? The only thing it will do is increase subscriptions. You can gift a mount to someone, you can gift an outfit to someone, you can't gift sub time to someone, can't gift an expansion. WHY? There is no justifiable reason for such idiocy on their behalf. It would take a minimal amount of effort for these items to be turned into a 'useable' item, just like the character slot expanders which CAN BE GIFTED lol. That is the only thing I have ever bought with plat. Why do YOU care where the cards come from? For that matter how would you even KNOW how someone paid their sub? If they pay it by giving plat to someone that wants to spend their RL money on game cards and sell them for X amount of plat in game SOE is still making money. I swear it seems like there are people that are too thick to grasp that concept. Do not sell non recurring subs for SC, fine, but they should make the same discount available to people that want to use multiple cards to pay in advance. You can't buy into this garbage from the assorted 'damaged goods' that are posting about a secret SLR mafia They have already warned those who dont wish to pay with real money the risks of buying card codes from fellow players and discouraged it. They never really said anything I would consider discouraging it, they said they do not endorse it and will not become involved in disputes. I used to play eve onlone but quit felt like i was playing a mud That has no relevance in any way to the topic at hand here, none whatsoever. They shouldn't because all you will be doing is paying for their game with their fake money, profits go down. Eve I agree sucked and yes it is mentioned in this thread twice oh orange typing one. Maybe if you read whole posts instead of half you could respond to them right instead of griefing

06-28-2012, 07:53 AM	#28
Lord Locton Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Sorry, somehow I missed that there was a main topic and posted this in piestro's post. I'll amend that as moved to here. Hi, I have a point I need to raise. You re-instated the purchase of non recurring memberships with station cash for a short period but still removed it on the Monday 18th June, this is unfair to anyone who did not see this post or was not even aware that the station cash purchase had been removed. Anyone playing EQ2 and buying Non recurring memberships will only attempt to buy one when their existing membership runs out. I have a disabled son who plays EQ2 and uses station cash to renew his membership. He has over 4000 SC in his wallet and only uses it for membership renewal. The Station cash was purchased for him as a present specifically to renew his membership as and when required. His non recurring membership ran out on the 20th June and he tried to renew it at that time, only to discover that you had removed the option to do so. How does reinstating the option to buy non recuring memberships for a short period help those who have station cash for the purpose and yet did not know that the option had been removed. I have contacted SoE customer support who were less than helpful but did give me the email address of a customer services manager. However that prooved to be usless as well as the manager has chosen to ignore my email regarding this matter. My email was sent on the 20th June, as yet I have not had a reply. My gut feeling is that when SoE offered a means to purchase a non recurring membership through the Station cash store they encouraged players to purchase station cash specifically for that purpose. By removing the option without addressing the problem of players that already have station cash in their wallets ready to purchase memberships they have obtained funds illegally. Please get this option reinstated and find a way to remove it without leaving members out of pocket i.e. have accounts flagged that had station cash in them prior to a fixed date allowing them to purchase non recurring memberships with the station cash they had already purchased. Add a note to the non recurring membership option that only station cash purchased before the said date can be used to purchase the non recurring membership. Then players could not buy Station cash specifically for memberships and those that did will be able to buy the memberships untill their station cash bought for this purpose has run out.

06-28-2012, 08:57 AM	#29
Onurissa Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Order of Marr Rank: Council Lord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 418	I feel for your son, i have a disabled son too. However the Non-recurring was placed back on for just over a week, to allow people to get their subs renewed. Everyone was talking about it in almost every channel, so hard to believe you didnt notice it, even if you didnt see forum. They already did right thing by allowing people to use their SC that way, in fact they even ran a 50% off sale ON those said Non-recurring SC subs, to even allow those with lots of SC to really take advantage of them being back on marketplace. At this point, theres not much they will do for you im sure. They may return to marketplace, they may not in future. You can still buy SC cards to pay for a month for him though.

06-28-2012, 09:20 AM	#30
Lord Locton Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 3	Onurissa@Antonia Bayle wrote: I feel for your son, i have a disabled son too. However the Non-recurring was placed back on for just over a week, to allow people to get their subs renewed. Everyone was talking about it in almost every channel, so hard to believe you didnt notice it, even if you didnt see forum. They already did right thing by allowing people to use their SC that way, in fact they even ran a 50% off sale ON those said Non-recurring SC subs, to even allow those with lots of SC to really take advantage of them being back on marketplace. At this point, theres not much they will do for you im sure. They may return to marketplace, they may not in future. You can still buy SC cards to pay for a month for him though. Thank you for your comments but discussions in 'in game chat' will have gone unseen. Personally I played EQ2 from launch to about a 2 years ago. I came back for a short run around the creation of the Freeport server but I have not played the game for at least 3 months. My disabled son does not group or read the chat channels because he would not be able to play the game with the same, shall we say enthusiasm as most. He is partially sighted and everything takes him time to achieve. Having said that he gets great enjoyment form his level 92 conjuror and is perfectly happy soloing with a merc and his pets. He might be a rare beast in that he plays an online game by himself but thats his thing. The point I am making is that SoE owes it to every subscriber to ensure that they all receive fair treatment. If station cash was purchased soley for the purpose of buying their membership and before SoEs decision to remove the option from the station cash store they should have made certain that none of their members would be out of pocket by putting in place a mechanism to catch all those that slip through the net. Relying on word getting round through the chat channels or the forums isn't really good enough... just my opinion.