Healing Procs not proccing.

Talathion · 11-10-2011, 03:46 PM

Green numbers going up, but hitpoints not updating.

The_Cheeseman · 11-13-2011, 07:01 AM

Mine seem to be working just fine.

Gilli · 11-21-2011, 03:09 PM

Since this thread really isn't worth much due to the lack of information, I will add some here.

In a typical instance run I will have Aegis 1 proc hundreds of times, but Empowered healing barely ever goes off. There is either something wrong with the Empowered Healing proc or the trigger isn't listed right, because I get about a dozen Empowered Healing of those for every 100 of Aegis 1.

I was using Harmonic Gorget of Empowered Shadows (until I had an upgrade drop in Kael): http://eq2.zam.com/db/item.html?eq2...4b2a0aedfd94e5a

Well isn't that interesting. Zam says: When Equipped: [Empowered Healing]. On CastHealTriggerOnce this spell has a 12% chance to cast Empowered Healing, which Restores 1598 health divine damage on caster.

In-game it says: On a healing spell, casts Empowered healing. Triggers about 2.4 times per minute and heals group for 1750.

I bet the Zam proc is really what's happening, since then it would only do something if it proc'ed and if the caster were hurt after the heal were cast.

Banditman · 11-21-2011, 04:08 PM

Empowered Healing is fine. The problem is that most of the time, when EH procs, there is nothing to heal. When there is nothing to heal, you have no way to tell that it proc'ed.

On the other hand, when Aegis procs, it just sits there, and the first time damage occurs, it absorbs it, thus you see the proc nearly every time.

Talathion · 11-21-2011, 04:14 PM

I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore.

Mermut · 11-21-2011, 04:35 PM

My heal procs fire just fine in raid zones.

Gilli · 11-21-2011, 04:38 PM

Banditman wrote:

Empowered Healing is fine. The problem is that most of the time, when EH procs, there is nothing to heal. When there is nothing to heal, you have no way to tell that it proc'ed.
On the other hand, when Aegis procs, it just sits there, and the first time damage occurs, it absorbs it, thus you see the proc nearly every time.

Makes sense to me, but I am not sure that accounts for the lack of procs EH is giving me. I just pulled up a parse for an hour and 19 minutes of healing time (actual, in-combat time) in Kael Drakkel last night:

Aegis I - 304 times Empowered Healing - 14 timesPanacaea I - 73 times

Fourteen times in an hour and 19 minutes of playing, as the only healer in the group, in KD? I warden spam my group heals, so assuming it procs on the initial cast, I can say my heal almost never fills the group on the first tick, not after those giants takes us all down to 40-60% of our HP with their AOE, depending on the class/gear. So it seems like EH has plenty to heal to me

Perhaps it comes into the heal queue absolutely last, behind all the other stuff that's going on (other HoTs, life taps, mending runes, spirit of druidism, crusader wards, etc.). At any rate, I like my new neck a lot better, and I'm not sad to lose the useless proc.

Banditman · 11-21-2011, 05:46 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore.

Here's your problem right here.

To paraphrase Commander Harrison: Don't think, find out.

Aneova · 11-22-2011, 02:50 AM

As much as it would be amusing to post the obvious insult, I'm just going to say that all my proc's are working just fine healing and damage side of them.

Sedenten · 11-22-2011, 06:41 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore.

Some examples might help your case.

All healing procs for my priests and fighters appear to be working in raid content currently.

If I were a developer reading this thread I'd be hard pressed to give it much thought without hard examples.

11-13-2011, 07:01 AM	#2
The_Cheeseman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,285	Mine seem to be working just fine. __________________

11-21-2011, 04:08 PM	#4
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	Empowered Healing is fine. The problem is that most of the time, when EH procs, there is nothing to heal. When there is nothing to heal, you have no way to tell that it proc'ed. On the other hand, when Aegis procs, it just sits there, and the first time damage occurs, it absorbs it, thus you see the proc nearly every time. __________________

11-21-2011, 04:35 PM	#6
Mermut Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 852	My heal procs fire just fine in raid zones. __________________ I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, But not hang it by the neck until dead.

11-21-2011, 04:38 PM	#7
Gilli Server: Blackburrow Guild: Mithril Web Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 335	Banditman wrote: Empowered Healing is fine. The problem is that most of the time, when EH procs, there is nothing to heal. When there is nothing to heal, you have no way to tell that it proc'ed. On the other hand, when Aegis procs, it just sits there, and the first time damage occurs, it absorbs it, thus you see the proc nearly every time. Makes sense to me, but I am not sure that accounts for the lack of procs EH is giving me. I just pulled up a parse for an hour and 19 minutes of healing time (actual, in-combat time) in Kael Drakkel last night: Aegis I - 304 times Empowered Healing - 14 timesPanacaea I - 73 times Fourteen times in an hour and 19 minutes of playing, as the only healer in the group, in KD? I warden spam my group heals, so assuming it procs on the initial cast, I can say my heal almost never fills the group on the first tick, not after those giants takes us all down to 40-60% of our HP with their AOE, depending on the class/gear. So it seems like EH has plenty to heal to me Perhaps it comes into the heal queue absolutely last, behind all the other stuff that's going on (other HoTs, life taps, mending runes, spirit of druidism, crusader wards, etc.). At any rate, I like my new neck a lot better, and I'm not sad to lose the useless proc.

11-21-2011, 05:46 PM	#8
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore. Here's your problem right here. To paraphrase Commander Harrison: Don't think, find out. __________________

11-10-2011, 03:46 PM	#1
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Green numbers going up, but hitpoints not updating.

11-21-2011, 03:09 PM	#3
Gilli Server: Blackburrow Guild: Mithril Web Rank: Officer Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northern Kentucky Posts: 335	Since this thread really isn't worth much due to the lack of information, I will add some here. In a typical instance run I will have Aegis 1 proc hundreds of times, but Empowered healing barely ever goes off. There is either something wrong with the Empowered Healing proc or the trigger isn't listed right, because I get about a dozen Empowered Healing of those for every 100 of Aegis 1. I was using Harmonic Gorget of Empowered Shadows (until I had an upgrade drop in Kael): http://eq2.zam.com/db/item.html?eq2...4b2a0aedfd94e5a Well isn't that interesting. Zam says: When Equipped: [Empowered Healing]. On CastHealTriggerOnce this spell has a 12% chance to cast Empowered Healing, which Restores 1598 health divine damage on caster. In-game it says: On a healing spell, casts Empowered healing. Triggers about 2.4 times per minute and heals group for 1750. I bet the Zam proc is really what's happening, since then it would only do something if it proc'ed and if the caster were hurt after the heal were cast.

11-21-2011, 04:14 PM	#5
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore.

11-22-2011, 02:50 AM	#9
Aneova Server: Kithicor Guild: Masters of the Universe Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,027	As much as it would be amusing to post the obvious insult, I'm just going to say that all my proc's are working just fine healing and damage side of them. __________________ http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=438341 Originally Posted by Smed: I've been a regular lurker on this site for a while but I wanted to step in here and dispel something that's just plain not true - I don't have my name highlighted here, but anyone that doubts it's me can email me at [email protected] and I'll happily reply. We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. In any event, I wanted to stop in and at least set the record straight - you aren't going to be seeing RMT allowed on the non-exchange enabled servers. John Smedley President, Sony Online Entertainment

11-22-2011, 06:41 PM	#10
Sedenten Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 680	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: I think several healing procs don't work in raid zones anymore. Some examples might help your case. All healing procs for my priests and fighters appear to be working in raid content currently. If I were a developer reading this thread I'd be hard pressed to give it much thought without hard examples.