Warrior Wisdom Line AA: Unshakeable...

Talathion · 08-07-2011, 03:42 PM

Currently the Worst AA in the game, 10 points can add an awesome 250 Mitigation (it goes down alot when you add more points into it), Currently the character sheet adds 750 Mitigation... this is NOT in line with the current content or game.

Please change it to 1% Damage Reduction or Minus 5-50 (scale) to all damage per point spent.

P.S. It would also be nice if you changed the Damage Per Second Above it to Autoattack Modifier.

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 01:00 PM

Reduces "Physical" Damage by 1% Per Point.

urgthock · 08-10-2011, 01:16 PM

I can agree that the mitigation it grants is very low and needs to be increased or changed to something like damage reduction. But I think the DPS AA in that line is fine the way it is.

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 01:20 PM

urgthock wrote:

I can agree that the mitigation it grants is very low and needs to be increased or changed to something like damage reduction. But I think the DPS AA in that line is fine the way it is.

Other classes get autoattack modifier, as a "warrior" who is NOT a hybrid in any way, I think we should also get auto-attack modifier, up to 0.12

aislynn00 · 08-10-2011, 08:04 PM

I agree on both counts if brawlers aren't getting a nerf.

Ilovecows · 08-10-2011, 08:16 PM

I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one.

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 08:20 PM

Steppen@Nagafen wrote:

I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one.

after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p.

Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better.

I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%.

While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is or what equipment you wear, which is in my opinion MUCH better because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor.

Ilovecows · 08-10-2011, 08:28 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Steppen@Nagafen wrote:
I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one.
after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p.
Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better.
I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%.
While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is, which is in my opinion MUCH better, because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor.

well, i guess i am level 39 so the dps mod as is would be much more helpful, but soe doesn't care about me so i guess whichever you need more is what will happen :/

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 08:53 PM

Steppen@Nagafen wrote:

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Steppen@Nagafen wrote:
I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one.
after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p.
Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better.
I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%.
While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is, which is in my opinion MUCH better, because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor.
well, i guess i am level 39 so the dps mod as is would be much more helpful, but soe doesn't care about me so i guess whichever you need more is what will happen :/

What if you grouped with a coercer or someone that buffs DPS to 100?

Geothe · 08-10-2011, 09:02 PM

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Currently the Worst AA in the game, 10 points can add an awesome 250 Mitigation (it goes down alot when you add more points into it),

lol with sweeping statements.And I can trump you.Brigands have an AA in the very last row of our Shadows AA tree, spending 5 points adds 100 physical mitigation at level 90.heh.

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 09:06 PM

Geothe wrote:

Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Currently the Worst AA in the game, 10 points can add an awesome 250 Mitigation (it goes down alot when you add more points into it),
lol with sweeping statements.And I can trump you.Brigands have an AA in the very last row of our Shadows AA tree, spending 5 points adds 100 physical mitigation at level 90.heh.

EverQuest II Alternate Advancement InformationAAs » Shadows AAs » Brigand Shadows AAs

Rugged Shielding		Rank (*/5)
Brigand		1 point
Requires 170 AA Points spend and 10 of them in General tree, 10 of them in Scout tree and 10 of them in Rogue tree

Improves the mitigation bonuses found on the brigand's self buff.

Passive Spell

Effects:
Improves the physical mititgation by X%.

Geothe · 08-10-2011, 09:22 PM

good job you can copy and paste!

5 points = 15% increase.15% increase of a 700 physical mit buff=5 points for 110 physical mit for Brigsvs10 points for 250 mit for Warriors.Like I said, Warriors AA isnt the worst ;p

Talathion · 08-10-2011, 09:25 PM

Geothe wrote:

good job you can copy and paste!
5 points = 15% increase.15% increase of a 700 physical mit buff=5 points for 110 physical mit for Brigsvs10 points for 250 mit for Warriors.Like I said, Warriors AA isnt the worst ;p

Your right! SMILEY

But its in the shadow's tree, you can select other things besides that craqqy spell, while in the KoS tree you "must" take it to get whatever is below :/

08-10-2011, 01:20 PM	#4
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	urgthock wrote: I can agree that the mitigation it grants is very low and needs to be increased or changed to something like damage reduction. But I think the DPS AA in that line is fine the way it is. Other classes get autoattack modifier, as a "warrior" who is NOT a hybrid in any way, I think we should also get auto-attack modifier, up to 0.12

08-10-2011, 08:04 PM	#5
aislynn00 Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 560	I agree on both counts if brawlers aren't getting a nerf. __________________ Karnoz Deviation Splitpaw

08-10-2011, 08:16 PM	#6
Ilovecows Server: Nagafen Guild: The Catalyst Rank: Initiate (1k Status) Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 795	I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one. __________________ All people suck and are idiots. Only believe yourself. I AM ILOVECOWS! REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE I LOVE COWS. YOU SHOULD LOVE THEM TOO. COWS ARE AMAZING AND I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY SAY THAT THEY AREN'T AMAZING. JUST LOOK AT THEIR NATURAL BEAUTY AND GRACE. THE AMAZINGNESS OF THESE ANIMALS ASTOUNDS ME EVERY TIME THAT I SEE THEM. DON'T HATE ON ME FOR THIS, BUT IF YOU DO NOT LOVE COWS, YOU ARE NOT A REAL PERSON.

08-10-2011, 08:20 PM	#7
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Steppen@Nagafen wrote: I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one. after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p. Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better. I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%. While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is or what equipment you wear, which is in my opinion MUCH better because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor.

08-10-2011, 08:28 PM	#8
Ilovecows Server: Nagafen Guild: The Catalyst Rank: Initiate (1k Status) Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 795	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: Steppen@Nagafen wrote: I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one. after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p. Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better. I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%. While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is, which is in my opinion MUCH better, because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor. well, i guess i am level 39 so the dps mod as is would be much more helpful, but soe doesn't care about me so i guess whichever you need more is what will happen :/ __________________ All people suck and are idiots. Only believe yourself. I AM ILOVECOWS! REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE I LOVE COWS. YOU SHOULD LOVE THEM TOO. COWS ARE AMAZING AND I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD POSSIBLY SAY THAT THEY AREN'T AMAZING. JUST LOOK AT THEIR NATURAL BEAUTY AND GRACE. THE AMAZINGNESS OF THESE ANIMALS ASTOUNDS ME EVERY TIME THAT I SEE THEM. DON'T HATE ON ME FOR THIS, BUT IF YOU DO NOT LOVE COWS, YOU ARE NOT A REAL PERSON.

08-07-2011, 03:42 PM	#1
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Currently the Worst AA in the game, 10 points can add an awesome 250 Mitigation (it goes down alot when you add more points into it), Currently the character sheet adds 750 Mitigation... this is NOT in line with the current content or game. Please change it to 1% Damage Reduction or Minus 5-50 (scale) to all damage per point spent. P.S. It would also be nice if you changed the Damage Per Second Above it to Autoattack Modifier.

08-10-2011, 01:00 PM	#2
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Reduces "Physical" Damage by 1% Per Point.

08-10-2011, 01:16 PM	#3
urgthock Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston, TX. Posts: 1,308	I can agree that the mitigation it grants is very low and needs to be increased or changed to something like damage reduction. But I think the DPS AA in that line is fine the way it is.

08-10-2011, 08:53 PM	#9
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Steppen@Nagafen wrote: Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: Steppen@Nagafen wrote: I agree with this change. But i think dps is fine how it is... although if the auto attack multiplier will give me more damage than i am all for that one. after you get 100 DPS mod (which is very easy) the DPS gains afterwords are cr@p. Autoattack Modifier is basicly uncapped DPS mod, its the same thing except its not capped, therefore regardless what your DPS mod it, it will ALWAYS increase your autoattack damage by a certain percent, making it 999x better. I usually go around with 200 DPS mod, which is 125% Extra Autoattack Damage, adding another 35 with the aa line (which seems like alot), isn't, it only increases it to 128%. While if it was autoattack modifier, say... all 10 points netting you 0.15 Autoattack Modifier, thats 15% extra autoattack damage, regardless of what your DPS mod is, which is in my opinion MUCH better, because even you can get 200 DPS as a guardian grouped with a coercer or inquisitor. well, i guess i am level 39 so the dps mod as is would be much more helpful, but soe doesn't care about me so i guess whichever you need more is what will happen :/ What if you grouped with a coercer or someone that buffs DPS to 100?

08-10-2011, 09:02 PM	#10
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	Talathion@Antonia Bayle wrote: Currently the Worst AA in the game, 10 points can add an awesome 250 Mitigation (it goes down alot when you add more points into it), lol with sweeping statements.And I can trump you.Brigands have an AA in the very last row of our Shadows AA tree, spending 5 points adds 100 physical mitigation at level 90.heh. __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

08-10-2011, 09:22 PM	#12
Geothe Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,098	good job you can copy and paste! 5 points = 15% increase.15% increase of a 700 physical mit buff=5 points for 110 physical mit for Brigsvs10 points for 250 mit for Warriors.Like I said, Warriors AA isnt the worst ;p __________________ Smed: We aren't going to be allowing RMT in any way, shape or form on the non-exchange enabled EQ II servers. Period. End of statement. Smed: 5) This [LoN] is not some slippery slope towards selling items directly in EQ & EQ II. Lie #3: Station Cash. Enough Said.

08-10-2011, 09:25 PM	#13
Talathion Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Cladire Mortii Rank: Initiate/Slave Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,780	Geothe wrote: good job you can copy and paste! 5 points = 15% increase.15% increase of a 700 physical mit buff=5 points for 110 physical mit for Brigsvs10 points for 250 mit for Warriors.Like I said, Warriors AA isnt the worst ;p Your right! But its in the shadow's tree, you can select other things besides that craqqy spell, while in the KoS tree you "must" take it to get whatever is below :/