What Lore has been solved, and what is left?

[Dramadon]

When the game started, there were several mysteries that were started. Just to name a few off the top of my head, there was the what happened to Luclin, what caused the rending, what's with the void invading Rivervale, what's with the Drakota attacking the boat, and many more.

I was just thinking we could start a thread of all the main storylines and summarize what we know about them and which are solved, which ones need to be solved, and even what new storylines have started up since the game's launch?

[Rainmare]

1. we still don;t know exactly what happened to luclin, but all signs point to the Dresolisk crystal being detonated in the Nexus.

2. the Rending was caused when all the gods of nature/influence/elements withdrew thier presence from Norrath, as far as anyone can tell. it even tore up thier own planes.

3. the Drakota that attack the ship...I don't think we ever found that one out...other then a random encounter on the ocean.

4. the Void hitting Rivervale was just that. they attacked/sacked it. you could speculate after RoK that perhasp they hit there first and hard to get to Fiddy, as he was on the 'list of most wanted norrathians', and they did possess him as we found out later...and fiddy being a Freethinker gave him all sorts of ties and connections.

[Vanisher123]

Drakota attack was part of the prismatic line, though i beleive some of it was redacted (something in the original prismatic about you having had your memory erased or something? Wasn't around then so I'm just going off rumors)

[Dramadon]

Actually, the Drakota was sent by Darathar who was using the Drakotas to get a prismatic egg from Naggy. I think it was just more of a manipulation than anything (because Darathar was actually the ship captain that picked you up).

[Vanisher123]

Dramadon wrote:

Actually, the Drakota was sent by Darathar who was using the Drakotas to get a prismatic egg from Naggy. I think it was just more of a manipulation than anything (because Darathar was actually the ship captain that picked you up).

Ahh ok, maybe that memory thing was from something else then. (the prismatic would make more sense if they put the mention of the attack back in lol nowadays it just seems like a random thing in LS)

[Cusashorn]

Captain Vargas (or whatever his name is spelled), IS Darathar himself. The very captain who pulled you out of the waters ordered a Drakota to attack the ship just to stir up some comotion. It was all part of his plan from the very beginning. For reasons never explicitely explained, Darathar was ended up giving you amnesia and then claims he pulled you out of the ocean. He claims you ended up there after the Rending happened, but floating in the ocean for a few hundred years is a long time... He wanted us to start over from scratch and learn the world again. Giving us amnesia would ensure that we didn't know anything of what happened among the dragons in the past. I believe he wanted us to obtain more prismatic eggs from Nagafen (who has hundreds of them from mating with Vox), so that he could hatch the egg (which takes hundreds of years to incubate) and then create another Kerafyrm, It backfired in his face when Nagafen convinces us that killing him would reward us better, so we did, and now he's dead.

As mentioned, the Rending happened because of the God's withdrawn influence from Norrath. However, it actually ended up affecting their own planes, which makes one question if their lack of presence was actually the reason why it happened.

The Void's presence in Rivervale was merely just a scouting party and beachfront assault to gain a foothold on Norrath. They studied how the Halflings interacted with the other races of Norrath, possessed a few of them, did their research, and then eventually invaded and took over most of Rivervale. Establishing their presence there allowed them to report back to the ones giving all the orders in the Void, so they could eventually use Norrath as an anchor, take over the planet, and when the time finally came, move onto the next world as Norrath gets sucked into the galaxy-sized black hole that threatens everything in the Void.

Over the course of the game, we learned the history behind the Qeynos Claymore and the Soulfire, two of the most powerful and legendary swords of all time. Ever since the start of the game, we've been hearing the name "Theer", but never found out who or what it was.

We only learned very recently that "Rohan Theer" is the full name of this Theer character, and that he is the Avatar of the Nameless, the creator of existance. How there can be an avatar for an entity that wills the existence of existence is beyond me, but apparently, Rohan Theer is known as the God Slayer. Using the Claymore and Soulfire as his "Left" and "Right" hands, he had the power to slay the gods if they ever stepped out of line. The gods didn't like the fact that they could cease to exist, so they somehow managed to trick him and banished him to the Void. He seems to be the ultimate Big-Bad of all of Everquest.

What he intends to do to Norrath, if anything, remains to be seen, but we know that he's pretty much in control of everything that exists in the Void. His story and the Void in whole will come to a final conclusion in the next expansion next month.

[Zabjade]

Big Bad is relative at his level, then again..maybe not, sorry just had a mental flash.

What we do know is that he was a rep of the Nameless aka the Creator...he  is trapped above what is essentially a Bottomless Pit...

Makes you wonder if there is more to the lore on Theer then we are lead to believe....

[Thoronve]

Two things...

Isn't it spelled 'Roehn Theer', not 'Rohan Theer', or am I mis-remembering that? (Perhaps Cusa plays LOTRO and mixed up

and...

This thread got me wondering. If the void presence in Rivervale is a scouting party - where is the anchor in Rivervale? I think the big tree stump north of the nightbloods in EL could have been the point of entry, but why didn't they go straight into Rivervale?

-Thoronve-

[teddyboy4]

Thoronve@Kithicor wrote:

Two things...

Isn't it spelled 'Roehn Theer', not 'Rohan Theer', or am I mis-remembering that? (Perhaps Cusa plays LOTRO and mixed up

and...

This thread got me wondering. If the void presence in Rivervale is a scouting party - where is the anchor in Rivervale? I think the big tree stump north of the nightbloods in EL could have been the point of entry, but why didn't they go straight into Rivervale?

-Thoronve-

I think you're right, I'm pretty sure it's Roehn, or Roerhn or some such.

and

I think the Obelisk of Lost Souls was the anchor, or it's possible that the scouting party didn't need an anchor at all at first, but I think OoLS was most likely their anchor as there is an entrance in EL.

As for their interest in the Halflings...I think they took Rivervale first b/c the Halflings were an attractive race to possess b/c of their size, diplomatic ties, the location and defensibility of their home city, and probably a hundred other reasons. I mean, the Halflings might not have had friendly relations with all the races, but the "evil" races that didn't have ties to them didn't really see them as much of a threat, they were probably seen as the best race to infiltrate the other races home cities with. And then there is the Drafling and his tower. We know they were interested in the Drafling, naturally, as he seems to be a pretty powerful individual and would be a prime canidate for possesion b/c of his ties not only w/ the Halflings and other humanoid races, but his connections with the various factions of Dragons. And we all know how very interested they were in the Dragons...

I think Rivervale, the Halflings, and the Enchanted Lands themselves were probably just the most logical place to start when they weighed out their options.

[Cusashorn]

Thoronve@Kithicor wrote:

Two things...

Isn't it spelled 'Roehn Theer', not 'Rohan Theer', or am I mis-remembering that? (Perhaps Cusa plays LOTRO and mixed up

and...

This thread got me wondering. If the void presence in Rivervale is a scouting party - where is the anchor in Rivervale? I think the big tree stump north of the nightbloods in EL could have been the point of entry, but why didn't they go straight into Rivervale?

-Thoronve-

Rohan, Roehn, I don't know and I don't really care either.. Perhaps there was some geographical, metaphysical, or other factor that prevented them from going to Rivervale directly.

[The_Cheeseman]

It is worth mentioning that not every being in the Void is organized and lead by the same folks. There is factionization and dissent among the Void beings just as there is among humans (see the events inside the Obelisk of Ahkzul). The Obelisk of Lost Souls (Known as the Obelisk of Vul) was created as a sort of spy hideout for gaining intel on the Shattered Lands. That is the reason why it's connection to Norrath was constantly in motion (or was, before SOE just made all the portals permanent), it helped it remain hidden and protected it from invasion. The invasion of Rivervale probably launched from this obelisk.

As I recall, the Obelisk of Blight (Obelisk of Zet) was also merely a scouting mission, meant to gather information on "Target Prime" which was Wuoshi. The void was very interested in Wuoshi and his connection to the Bloom of Growth, since harnessing its power would be very beneficial to their cause. In fact, as I understand it, the experiment involving the soul of Tarinax was mostly designed to test a process they planned to use on Wuoshi. It's never revealed who these shadowed men worked for, but it isn't really relevant to the further void storyline.

Anyway, as far as I know, the first permanent void anchors on Norrath were created by Anashti'Sul in the Moors of Ykesha. Anashti wasn't so much working for Theer as cooperating with him to achieve the same ends (escaping the void). However, Anashti ended up accelerating her timetable a bit faster than Theer had anticipated, and revealed the Void's presence to Norrath before Theer was really ready. Anashti'Sul's invasion was unsuccessful, due to the actions of the PCs in TSO. We recovered the Staff of Theer (which has the power to sever Void anchor's connections to Norrath) and were able to close the anchors that Anashti'Sul placed on Norrath (the Obelisk of Ahkzul and Anchor of Bazzul). Eventually, we stormed her palace and killed her in the void. This actually had the effect of releasing her spirit back into Norrath, so we sort of defeated her and helped her win at the same time. Anyways, now that she is free of the Void, Anashti doesn't really want anything to do with Theer at all, probably for the same reasons the other gods don't. Anashti is also way too busy trying to re-establish herself among the Norrathian pantheon and begin machinations to reclaim the Plane of Health.

Anyways, what we have learned since then was that Theer has his own massive army of Void creatures (which is even stronger than Anashti's force) and he had placed secret anchors on Norrath, which were hidden by powerful magic. It was actually Najena who employed a ritual to reveal the locations of Theer's anchors, which were in Lavastorm (Munzok's Material Bastion) and the Field of Bone (Kurn's Tower).

As it turns out, Theer's plan was a lot more comlex than Anashti's, and involved quite a bit more subtlety and manipulation. We'll soon see exactly what Theer's plan entailed, but much of that information is still under NDA. Stay tuned for Sentinel's Fate to learn how it all goes down!

[Mixxit]

Some stuff i'd like to see answered

How will the council save lucan

The Xulous lore/Rodcet Crusade still hasn't been detailed and the history of the Anxefen, Shissar etc

The result of the war of earth and air

What really is the history of the dead hills

Why there is a combine spire in the water in timerous deep

What is going on in velious

Where has the temple of life traveled

What is Zebs plan

What is going on in highkeep/highbourne/kithicor and the hills of shade

The history of the hills of shade before the elven exodus

What is Morrell's plan

Why/how did luclin blow up

Where is the oracle of k'arnon

[The_Cheeseman]

Mixxit@Nagafen wrote:

Some stuff i'd like to see answered

How will the council save lucan

The Xulous lore/Rodcet Crusade still hasn't been detailed and the history of the Anxefen, Shissar etc

The result of the war of earth and air

What really is the history of the dead hills

Why there is a combine spire in the water in timerous deep

What is going on in velious

Where has the temple of life traveled

What is Zebs plan

What is going on in highkeep/highbourne/kithicor and the hills of shade

The history of the hills of shade before the elven exodus

What is Morrell's plan

Why/how did luclin blow up

Where is the oracle of k'arnon

The next expansion will probably take care of Lucan's fate. I assume that once Theer has recovered Soulfire, he'll discard Lucan like the useless bagge he is.

The Xulous were a Norrathian race wiped out by Bertoxxulous long, long ago. The history of the Ankexfen (who became the goblins) is pretty well told, as far as I am aware, and leaves no significant holes. The Shissar have yet to return or show any signs of having survived the destruction of Luclin, though Zeb's prophecies do imply that they will show-up in the future.

The War of Earth and Air? I assume you are referring to the war that is discussed in the creation stories of the minotaurs and Valkyries? I am unaware of any other sources that mention the conflict.

Considering the current live event, I imagine we'll hear more about the Dead Hills soon. Possibly in a Live Update or an expansion after SF.

There's been a spire in the waters outside Timorous Deep since EQ1. I assume it sank some time after being built, kind of like what happened to the Ulteran Spire in Everfrost (before it was fixed).

Velious supposedly melted and has subsequently re-frozen, so much of it is likely very different. However, the Temple of Veeshan most likely survived, as it was built into solid rock, along with much of the Wakening Lands and Cobalt Scar. Of course, the Bloom of Growth is no longer in the Wakening Lands, so it's probably far less pleasant than it was in EQ1.

I assumed that the Temple of Life teleported to the Plane of Health, has it been suggested that it went elsewhere?

I was not aware that Zeb had a plan, per se. Zeb has always seemed to me to be the type of being that stuff happens to, not one to cause things to happen.

Highkeep is the secret base of the Far Seas Trading Company, which they have kept hidden in order to protect it. Kithicor Woods and the Hills of Shade, as far as I know, have not been mentioned.

As far as I know, the Hills of Shade have never been mentioned in the context of EQ2.

Morell-Thule? He has a plan? I have never heard anything in EQ2 about Morell-Thule, and he's barely a blip on the radar in EQ1, as well. There were some wild assumptions made regarding the 5-year anniversary event being somehow connected to Morell-Thule, but nothing official has ever been revealed, and in my opinion, those theories are fairly far-fetched.

I have a theory on the destruction of Luclin, but I'll have to wait until the release of SF to talk about it.

I am not familiar with this being in the context of EQ2, so I cannot comment. The only information I was able to find involved some old quests in EQ1. I can only assume that he no longer exists.

[Wilde_Night]

I am pretty sure Morrell Thule was the "Dreamer" we assisted during the event before the Citadel Destruction/Soulfire event.

The Forest of Kithicor exists as the sunken and burned woods in the ocean surrounding the Enchanted Lands as far as anyone knows.  Perhaps a chunk of it is floating as an island somewhere, but most of it is dead and under sea water.

[Cusashorn]

Mixxit@Nagafen wrote:

Some stuff i'd like to see answered

How will the council save lucan

The Xulous lore/Rodcet Crusade still hasn't been detailed and the history of the Anxefen, Shissar etc

Isn't there a book called "The history of the Anhexfen" from Runnyeye? The Shissar's history has been more than expanded upon through EQlive lore. I don't know what loose ends you're looking for.

The result of the war of earth and air

The what? What are you talking about?

What really is the history of the dead hills

The Dead Hills? A non-existant zone in EQlive that played no significance to any lore in the series?

Why there is a combine spire in the water in timerous deep

Miragul's Highway was never explained why it looked like a Combine Spire, and it probably never will be.

What is going on in velious

Tune in next expansion.

Where has the temple of life traveled

It traveled from the Plane of Health to North Qeynos, and it's been there ever since. It doesn't move anymore. It was a one way trip and it hasn't left since.

What is Zebs plan

He doesn't really have a plan. It's never been his intentions to scheme and plot. He's a benevolent God of Knowledge, and really has nothing to hide... even if he only talks in cryptic riddles.

What is going on in highkeep/highbourne/kithicor and the hills of shade

Highkeep is the headquarters of the Far Seas Trading Company. It's location is withheld from the public to prevent pirate attacks.

The taint of the undead that remained after the Battle of Bloody Kithicor has spread across all of Kithicor Island. *EVERYTHING* on the island is dead or undead now. Just merely approaching it will begin to drain your life. For our safety, the FSTC keeps it's location hidden from anyone and everyone.

The Hills of Shade, another zone that didn't exist in EQlive and holds no significant lore value. (Yes, I'm aware both zones are listed on the maps in EQlive, but they didn't exist at zones.) Why the interest in these places?

The history of the hills of shade before the elven exodus

Something that is likely to never be explained.

What is Morrell's plan

We don't know. I suppose time may tell.

Why/how did luclin blow up

Please refer to this post. It's very unlikely we'll ever find out why it blew up. We'll never be able to return there to search for any remaining evidence (which itself is likely to all be ashes by now anyway.) Keep in mind that there's no solid evidence supporting this theory, but it's more likely than the "Kerafyrm Blew it Up" theory that both Darathar and Nagafen told us, which both of them were lying to our faces about.

Where is the oracle of k'arnon

An insignifcant character who's story probably won't be told.

[Vaedaer]

Actually the Oracle of K'arnon is mentioned on eq2, iirc he didnt turned  the robe of the oracle back and left felwithe then was killed by a rogue (eq1 rogue epic xp) I believe its all mentioned during the robe of the oracle heritage quest

Hills of shade is a zone on eq1  but it appeared on the secrets of faydwer expansion which would make it none cannon until its mentioned on eq2 /shrug

[CorpseGoddess]

Cusashorn wrote:

Thoronve@Kithicor wrote:

Two things...

Isn't it spelled 'Roehn Theer', not 'Rohan Theer', or am I mis-remembering that? (Perhaps Cusa plays LOTRO and mixed up

and...

This thread got me wondering. If the void presence in Rivervale is a scouting party - where is the anchor in Rivervale? I think the big tree stump north of the nightbloods in EL could have been the point of entry, but why didn't they go straight into Rivervale?

-Thoronve-

Rohan, Roehn, I don't know and I don't really care either.. Perhaps there was some geographical, metaphysical, or other factor that prevented them from going to Rivervale directly.

Interesting attitude for somebody posting in the Lore thread.  Usually everybody here likes to dot all the i's and cross all the t's, and is hugely involved in making sure the minutiae is absolutely correct.  Just made me lol.

This is a great thread...I'm just starting to get into the Lore of things and it's a bit intimidating at this stage of the game, I can tell you.

[Aurel]

The lore:  The third (+ the rest, if applicable) Assistant Researcher's Notes book(s).

What needs to be solved:  Where on earth it is!!  **sobs**

[Dramadon]

Streppoch@Guk wrote:

Cusashorn wrote:

Thoronve@Kithicor wrote:

Two things...

Isn't it spelled 'Roehn Theer', not 'Rohan Theer', or am I mis-remembering that? (Perhaps Cusa plays LOTRO and mixed up

and...

This thread got me wondering. If the void presence in Rivervale is a scouting party - where is the anchor in Rivervale? I think the big tree stump north of the nightbloods in EL could have been the point of entry, but why didn't they go straight into Rivervale?

-Thoronve-

Rohan, Roehn, I don't know and I don't really care either.. Perhaps there was some geographical, metaphysical, or other factor that prevented them from going to Rivervale directly.

Interesting attitude for somebody posting in the Lore thread.  Usually everybody here likes to dot all the i's and cross all the t's, and is hugely involved in making sure the minutiae is absolutely correct.  Just made me lol.

This is a great thread...I'm just starting to get into the Lore of things and it's a bit intimidating at this stage of the game, I can tell you.

Yeah, I was gone for two years and lost touch. I got tired of trying to filter through a million threads to find out what I missed so I thought this would be a good way to get caught up.

One other question, what the heck happened to Vhalen? He doesn't appear to be working at SOE anymore but I haven't been able to find a thread explaining where he went (there was one mentioning his final gift to us or whatever, but it never actually explained what happened to him).

[Mixxit]

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[Mixxit]

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[Triasa]

WARNING - spoilers ahead! Now that the NDA for SF has been lifted, we can add Luclin's demise to the "solved" column. All is explained by one of the researchers in the Paineel library (in a movie, no less) - there is a nice transcription of the dialogue on the beta boards, but here's the short version: El'Arad, who had secretly allied with the shadowed men prior to the new nexus' construction, activated it in a hurry (his secret was about to be uncovered), and accidentally (or perhaps intentionally) did not realize their spires were still connected to the Luclin nexus. The power from the new nexus was channeled by the spires into Luclin and overloaded the original nexus, causing an explosion that destroyed the moon. The resulting backlash of magical energy traveled back through the spires, destroying them in the process, and ripped Odus from this reality and shifted it into... Ulteria. They refer to this event as "The Great Feedback." There are still questions that I haven't found any answers to, like why did the Paineel Erudites transform, but the Erudins did not? The Erudins are mostly void touched now, perhaps that has something to do with it. Also, why are Tallonites attacking the Vigilant? They are almost certainly agents of Tallon Zek - they say things like "You lost the battle before it even began!" and have buffs like "Tallon's Favor." Anyone else find some interesting info in SF?

[Cusashorn]

So neither Kerafyrm OR the Dresolisk Crystal had anything to do with Luclin huh? That's.. kinda depressing. What the point of them moving it into the Nexus to begin with? I know it makes sense that if they intended to detonate it, they would have done it right away and not waited 450 years, but it still leaves unanswered questions.

[teddyboy4]

Wait...does the movie actually show Luclin exploding?

B/c I know from the text logs posted in the "SPOILER" thread it only actually confirms that the power channeled through the Nexus on Luclin was returned and not only ripped Odus apart, but also shifted it into Ultera.

I know I had personally drawn the conclusion that that is what had destroyed Luclin, but it wasn't confirmed in the logs I read so although I speculated about it in the other post, I didn't want to just come out and say that's what it was.

[Rezikai]

Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:

Wait...does the movie actually show Luclin exploding?

B/c I know from the text logs posted in the "SPOILER" thread it only actually confirms that the power channeled through the Nexus on Luclin was returned and not only ripped Odus apart, but also shifted it into Ultera.

I know I had personally drawn the conclusion that that is what had destroyed Luclin, but it wasn't confirmed in the logs I read so although I speculated about it in the other post, I didn't want to just come out and say that's what it was.

No, the "play" goes on to explain that the Farisan Nexus as the new nexus at Quel'ule is called, were trying to touch the mystical properties of the orignal old Combine Spires, and a great feedback happened detroying alot of Quel'ule and the new nexus with it. But it never states that it destroys Luclin, just is responsible for Odus -shifting- into Ultera. 

Did it destroy Luclin.. that we dont know yet.. I'm willing to bet it somehow played a part in it's overall demise. But that's simply not known yet.

[Vaedaer]

Heh that great feedback makes me think tho ... what if parts of luclin were translocated too? Maybe we will see akhevas and shissars again =P or not! /shrugs all I know is I have a certain erudite to hunt 

[Cusashorn]

who?

[Vaedaer]

Cusashorn wrote:

who?

if by who you meant the erudite, El'Arad xp

[Cusashorn]

You made it sound like you have a vendetta to fulfill when you said it.