Cast order after GU51?

RafaelSmith · 01-28-2009, 03:29 PM

Althought I have copied over to test I have yet to be able to do any real testing...with groups/raids. However the training wall really hates me now.

Curious if other Guardians have had chance and can provide any ideas what our optimal casting order(CAs, Taunts) will be given the GU51 changes?.

Undorett · 01-28-2009, 06:53 PM

Assuming your agression is 10% higher than the mob you are fighting's level, cast your taunts early and often, but your cast order for dps doesnt really change other than adding taunts in far more often. 10% more agression makes your taunts unresistable. So for unresistable taunts, vs a lv80 mob, you want at least 440 aggression, vs a lv86 mob you want 473 or better, vs an 88 you want 484, and vs a lv90 you want 495. It also increases the value of taunts by a considerable amount, so you may want even more.

RafaelSmith · 01-29-2009, 01:28 AM

Undorett wrote:

Assuming your agression is 10% higher than the mob you are fighting's level, cast your taunts early and often, but your cast order for dps doesnt really change other than adding taunts in far more often. 10% more agression makes your taunts unresistable. So for unresistable taunts, vs a lv80 mob, you want at least 440 aggression, vs a lv86 mob you want 473 or better, vs an 88 you want 484, and vs a lv90 you want 495. It also increases the value of taunts by a considerable amount, so you may want even more.

Yeah ive read about what aggression will mean now.

Going to be tough considering I have not seen too many gear options with aggression on them from the content I have been doing...at least ones worth sacrificing other stats for.

I think at best I am at 450ish or so SMILEY

Undorett · 01-29-2009, 12:43 PM

Templar gives some, I think with the buff that is altered by their mythical...not sure if they give it premythical or not. Dirge gives like 30 and our defensive stance gives some. It should be pretty easy to get in a raid, but in a group it may be a little harder.

Antryg Mistrose · 01-29-2009, 07:28 PM

Undorett wrote:

Templar gives some, I think with the buff that is altered by their mythical...not sure if they give it premythical or not. Dirge gives like 30 and our defensive stance gives some. It should be pretty easy to get in a raid, but in a group it may be a little harder.

Mythical only.

Templar Aegolism (Adept3) with mythic gives 15.3 aggression, raised to 18.3 with 4 set VP or TSO bonus,

01-28-2009, 03:29 PM	#1
RafaelSmith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,808	Althought I have copied over to test I have yet to be able to do any real testing...with groups/raids. However the training wall really hates me now. Curious if other Guardians have had chance and can provide any ideas what our optimal casting order(CAs, Taunts) will be given the GU51 changes?. __________________

01-29-2009, 01:28 AM	#3
RafaelSmith Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,808	Undorett wrote: Assuming your agression is 10% higher than the mob you are fighting's level, cast your taunts early and often, but your cast order for dps doesnt really change other than adding taunts in far more often. 10% more agression makes your taunts unresistable. So for unresistable taunts, vs a lv80 mob, you want at least 440 aggression, vs a lv86 mob you want 473 or better, vs an 88 you want 484, and vs a lv90 you want 495. It also increases the value of taunts by a considerable amount, so you may want even more. Yeah ive read about what aggression will mean now. Going to be tough considering I have not seen too many gear options with aggression on them from the content I have been doing...at least ones worth sacrificing other stats for. I think at best I am at 450ish or so __________________

01-29-2009, 07:28 PM	#5
Antryg Mistrose Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 893	Undorett wrote: Templar gives some, I think with the buff that is altered by their mythical...not sure if they give it premythical or not. Dirge gives like 30 and our defensive stance gives some. It should be pretty easy to get in a raid, but in a group it may be a little harder. Mythical only. Templar Aegolism (Adept3) with mythic gives 15.3 aggression, raised to 18.3 with 4 set VP or TSO bonus, __________________ Illusionist//Paladin/Dirge/Templar Jeweler/Sage/Alchemist/Prov

01-28-2009, 06:53 PM	#2
Undorett Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 663	Assuming your agression is 10% higher than the mob you are fighting's level, cast your taunts early and often, but your cast order for dps doesnt really change other than adding taunts in far more often. 10% more agression makes your taunts unresistable. So for unresistable taunts, vs a lv80 mob, you want at least 440 aggression, vs a lv86 mob you want 473 or better, vs an 88 you want 484, and vs a lv90 you want 495. It also increases the value of taunts by a considerable amount, so you may want even more.

01-29-2009, 12:43 PM	#4
Undorett Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 663	Templar gives some, I think with the buff that is altered by their mythical...not sure if they give it premythical or not. Dirge gives like 30 and our defensive stance gives some. It should be pretty easy to get in a raid, but in a group it may be a little harder.