Skyshrine: The Underdepths

Emperors · 05-03-2012, 03:53 PM

I must have missed some of the story arc, but who is Grendish the dragon and why is he invading Skyshrine? He disappears at the end of the instance when he tries to pursue one of the guardians. Instead we get to fight Dozekar who I am sure is just one of his lackies. Any information on either Dozekar or Grendish would be appreciated.

Cyliena · 05-03-2012, 04:37 PM

On EQ it was believed that Dozekar was Kerafyrm's father. No idea if anything ever confirmed that, I just remember him kicking my butt in ToV's Halls of Testing. SMILEY

Don't recall Grendish from EQ and haven't done any of the Skyshrine stuff. Anyone have any dialogues from what's going on in there?

Emperors · 05-03-2012, 05:09 PM

As you fly down to the final area this is happening.

(1336075517)[Thu May 03 16:05:17 2012] #FF0000You hear angry voices emanating from the cavern below...

(1336075521)[Thu May 03 16:05:21 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "Your crime is unforgivable!"

(1336075526)[Thu May 03 16:05:26 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "You swore an oath all your life, to protect Skyshrine!"

(1336075536)[Thu May 03 16:05:36 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "My betrayal is complete."

(1336075540)[Thu May 03 16:05:40 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "I will make you bleed!"

(1336075545)[Thu May 03 16:05:45 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "How could you betray us Grendish, at what cost?"

(1336075551)[Thu May 03 16:05:51 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "Hahah, this is none of your affair."

(1336075560)[Thu May 03 16:06:00 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "No Grendish, how could you commit such an outrage!"

(133607556 SMILEY [Thu May 03 16:06:08 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "Ah yes, feel the bite of my teeth!"

(1336075576)[Thu May 03 16:06:16 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "I can not die here. The king must know of your betrayal!"

(1336075584)[Thu May 03 16:06:24 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "You will one day pay for this malefaction!"

(1336075590)[Thu May 03 16:06:30 2012] #FF0000In the face of certain defeat Susarrak attempts to escape Skyshrine, but Grendish pursues her!

Cyliena · 05-03-2012, 05:33 PM

Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274

From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it.

Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291

LordPazuzu · 05-03-2012, 07:29 PM

This is what I got from it, I could be way off base.

The storyline of the Underdepths seems to revolve around the four crusaders mentioned by Lord Yelinak in Thurgadin. You find the corpses to two of the crusaders and witness the fight between Grendish and Susarrak. I got the general impression that Grendish was one of the four, Susarrak being the final, and it was Grendish who betrayed Skyshrine to Kerafyrm. The links to Grendish the Crusader and Susarrak the Crusader in EQ1 seem to confirm this.

The corpse of Charayan is the first dead dragon you find.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=10631

I think Jortreva's corpse is the second.

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=10502

Also, as Dozekar is one of the main bosses of this update, I think it's extremely likely that he was indeed Kerafyrm's father.

Cyliena · 05-03-2012, 09:20 PM

Nice.. I'm ally with Skyshrine with my main on EQ, might have to pop into there tomorrow and see if those two have anything interesting to say. SMILEY

Cusashorn · 05-04-2012, 09:51 PM

Cyliena wrote:

Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274
From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it.
Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291

The Crusaders didn't come into being until *AFTER* the 4 Warders were destroyed and Kerafyrm woke up and went on his rampage.

Back around 2003 or so, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm. For many servers who still hadn't woken him up, as soon as they had, Skyshrine would then change by spawning new mobs, including the crusaders, to defend Skyshrine in case Kerafyrm ever came back. It was kinda funny to see that they would eventually force the new Skyshrine upon every server regardless of whether they woke him up or not. This screwed up with the rampage script and broke it. Just one more reason for the Rallos Zek server to ensure that they killed Kerafyrm when they woke him up... and they did... and it was GLORIOUS!

As for Dozekar, while it's never been straight up confirmed that he is Kerafyrm's father, it is very heavily implied that he is. His punishment as such was to be bound to the western wing of the Temple of Veeshan, where he was supposed to die to mortals, be resurrected by the priests, and forced to live the rest of eternity being killed again and again.

LordPazuzu · 05-05-2012, 11:30 AM

Cusashorn wrote:

Cyliena wrote:
Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274
From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it.
Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291
The Crusaders didn't come into being until *AFTER* the 4 Warders were destroyed and Kerafyrm woke up and went on his rampage.
Back around 2003 or so, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm. For many servers who still hadn't woken him up, as soon as they had, Skyshrine would then change by spawning new mobs, including the crusaders, to defend Skyshrine in case Kerafyrm ever came back. It was kinda funny to see that they would eventually force the new Skyshrine upon every server regardless of whether they woke him up or not. This screwed up with the rampage script and broke it. Just one more reason for the Rallos Zek server to ensure that they killed Kerafyrm when they woke him up... and they did... and it was GLORIOUS!
As for Dozekar, while it's never been straight up confirmed that he is Kerafyrm's father, it is very heavily implied that he is. His punishment as such was to be bound to the western wing of the Temple of Veeshan, where he was supposed to die to mortals, be resurrected by the priests, and forced to live the rest of eternity being killed again and again.

Which doesn't bode well for the Temple of Veeshan. When you get to the temple lair at the bottom of the Underdepths, Dozekar comes flying in like a force of nature to beat the crap out of you. Once the fight is engaged, the droag Jorlak teleports in and prevents Grendish from joining the fight.

05-03-2012, 04:37 PM	#2
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	On EQ it was believed that Dozekar was Kerafyrm's father. No idea if anything ever confirmed that, I just remember him kicking my butt in ToV's Halls of Testing. Don't recall Grendish from EQ and haven't done any of the Skyshrine stuff. Anyone have any dialogues from what's going on in there?

05-03-2012, 05:09 PM	#3
Emperors Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 161	As you fly down to the final area this is happening. (1336075517)[Thu May 03 16:05:17 2012] #FF0000You hear angry voices emanating from the cavern below... (1336075521)[Thu May 03 16:05:21 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "Your crime is unforgivable!" (1336075526)[Thu May 03 16:05:26 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "You swore an oath all your life, to protect Skyshrine!" (1336075536)[Thu May 03 16:05:36 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "My betrayal is complete." (1336075540)[Thu May 03 16:05:40 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "I will make you bleed!" (1336075545)[Thu May 03 16:05:45 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "How could you betray us Grendish, at what cost?" (1336075551)[Thu May 03 16:05:51 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "Hahah, this is none of your affair." (1336075560)[Thu May 03 16:06:00 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "No Grendish, how could you commit such an outrage!" (133607556[Thu May 03 16:06:08 2012] aNPC 234665 Grendish:Grendish/a says, "Ah yes, feel the bite of my teeth!" (1336075576)[Thu May 03 16:06:16 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "I can not die here. The king must know of your betrayal!" (1336075584)[Thu May 03 16:06:24 2012] aNPC 234667 Susarrak:Susarrak/a says, "You will one day pay for this malefaction!" (1336075590)[Thu May 03 16:06:30 2012] #FF0000In the face of certain defeat Susarrak attempts to escape Skyshrine, but Grendish pursues her!

05-04-2012, 09:51 PM	#7
Cusashorn Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cheeseland, USA Posts: 14,919	Cyliena wrote: Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274 From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it. Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291 The Crusaders didn't come into being until AFTER the 4 Warders were destroyed and Kerafyrm woke up and went on his rampage. Back around 2003 or so, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm. For many servers who still hadn't woken him up, as soon as they had, Skyshrine would then change by spawning new mobs, including the crusaders, to defend Skyshrine in case Kerafyrm ever came back. It was kinda funny to see that they would eventually force the new Skyshrine upon every server regardless of whether they woke him up or not. This screwed up with the rampage script and broke it. Just one more reason for the Rallos Zek server to ensure that they killed Kerafyrm when they woke him up... and they did... and it was GLORIOUS! As for Dozekar, while it's never been straight up confirmed that he is Kerafyrm's father, it is very heavily implied that he is. His punishment as such was to be bound to the western wing of the Temple of Veeshan, where he was supposed to die to mortals, be resurrected by the priests, and forced to live the rest of eternity being killed again and again.

05-05-2012, 11:30 AM	#8
LordPazuzu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,157	Cusashorn wrote: Cyliena wrote: Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274 From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it. Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291 The Crusaders didn't come into being until AFTER the 4 Warders were destroyed and Kerafyrm woke up and went on his rampage. Back around 2003 or so, they revamped Skyshrine to reflect the awakening of Kerafyrm. For many servers who still hadn't woken him up, as soon as they had, Skyshrine would then change by spawning new mobs, including the crusaders, to defend Skyshrine in case Kerafyrm ever came back. It was kinda funny to see that they would eventually force the new Skyshrine upon every server regardless of whether they woke him up or not. This screwed up with the rampage script and broke it. Just one more reason for the Rallos Zek server to ensure that they killed Kerafyrm when they woke him up... and they did... and it was GLORIOUS! As for Dozekar, while it's never been straight up confirmed that he is Kerafyrm's father, it is very heavily implied that he is. His punishment as such was to be bound to the western wing of the Temple of Veeshan, where he was supposed to die to mortals, be resurrected by the priests, and forced to live the rest of eternity being killed again and again. Which doesn't bode well for the Temple of Veeshan. When you get to the temple lair at the bottom of the Underdepths, Dozekar comes flying in like a force of nature to beat the crap out of you. Once the fight is engaged, the droag Jorlak teleports in and prevents Grendish from joining the fight.

05-03-2012, 03:53 PM	#1
Emperors Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 161	I must have missed some of the story arc, but who is Grendish the dragon and why is he invading Skyshrine? He disappears at the end of the instance when he tries to pursue one of the guardians. Instead we get to fight Dozekar who I am sure is just one of his lackies. Any information on either Dozekar or Grendish would be appreciated.

05-03-2012, 05:33 PM	#4
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Interesting. Decided to see if Grendish existed in EQ and sure enough, he did, and a player posted a conversation with him back in 2007: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...221906125531274 From that dialogue it sounds like he was egging players on to destroy the warders and free Kerafyrm, though I might be misreading it. Susarrak was also in Skyshrine in EQ, more dialogue: http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...956014440532291

05-03-2012, 07:29 PM	#5
LordPazuzu Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,157	This is what I got from it, I could be way off base. The storyline of the Underdepths seems to revolve around the four crusaders mentioned by Lord Yelinak in Thurgadin. You find the corpses to two of the crusaders and witness the fight between Grendish and Susarrak. I got the general impression that Grendish was one of the four, Susarrak being the final, and it was Grendish who betrayed Skyshrine to Kerafyrm. The links to Grendish the Crusader and Susarrak the Crusader in EQ1 seem to confirm this. The corpse of Charayan is the first dead dragon you find. http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=10631 I think Jortreva's corpse is the second. http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s....shtml?id=10502 Also, as Dozekar is one of the main bosses of this update, I think it's extremely likely that he was indeed Kerafyrm's father.

05-03-2012, 09:20 PM	#6
Cyliena Server: Everfrost Guild: Crusaders of Neriak Rank: Colonel Fansite Staff Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,798	Nice.. I'm ally with Skyshrine with my main on EQ, might have to pop into there tomorrow and see if those two have anything interesting to say.