What is the m9st "wanted" class

ghepeto · 07-14-2007, 08:14 PM

I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class?

StoneySilen · 07-14-2007, 08:19 PM

Differs at the different levels as well. In the lower levels DPS is kinda hard to find. In the upper levels it is healers and tanks.

ghepeto · 07-14-2007, 08:45 PM

What about the Troubador or Dirge? Or they easy to find?

VizP · 07-14-2007, 08:50 PM

When you join a group at higher levels, the sticking point is the tank or the healer - you can form an entire group and then have to wait a long time for either of these two essential to complete it. I have to say that healers are rarer than tanks so you are going to get more 'looking for healer' shouts than 'looking for tank' shouts. Also it is essential to note that if you want to raid in the future, both are not equally needed - in fact the tanks are the LEAST wanted in raids because a raid group only needs a main tank and an off tank in the entire raid - so its rare to find guilds actively trying to find a tank class (they are usually filled in these ranks fast). However guilds will always be on the look out for healers as a decent raid will have 3 healers in the main group alone, perhaps seven is the magic number, and with three archetypes offering important differences, guilds will be looking for clericsm druids AND shamans. Not so for tanks - guardians usually always tanking the MT spot in raids. Anyway in terms of tanks and healers, once more it is not equal selection within each class - some are preferred more than others: Healers: Its fair to say that while all the healers are powerful in their own right, furies have taken a flavour of the last few months feel due to the fact they can DPS the best out of the healer classes - it has meant that that it is one of the most popular classes in the game, and of course when a class is that popular, you can trust you will have a lot of poor players flocking to it. Furies are starting to get a poor reputation as healers due to players speccing DPS and choosing to pump out the numbers in groups rather than heal (and furies are definitely not good at doing both at the same time). You can't blame groups for discriminating against furies - i.e 'that fury might be one of the decent ones, but chances are with the number of these guys - probably 'not'. Wardens and of course both clerics and shamans are desperately sought after however... although both defilers and inquisitors are rarer than the others. Tanks: People prefer plated tanks which means bruisers/monks rarely find themselves are main tanks unless they are the 'only' tanks - it has to do with the fact that only shamans can heal them better than other healers to take care of 'spike' damage. Since they are avoidance tanks, when they do get hit they get hit hard - regens and reactives dont cope with this as well as all encompassing wards so groups generally push for plate tanks who have far higher mitigation (and of course less avoidance). However crusaders (paladins/sks) actually sadly suffer from the 'fury' effect too - their taunts require considerable skill and unforunately both these classes are popular due to the type of classes they are often resulting in players that are simply not very good at holding aggro (the class is not good for lazy players - effort is needed to keep mobs on you and lazy players are a dime a dozen). It means groups have horror stories of poor crusaders tanking. I personally believe the aggro to be a class issue until I was shown how these classes can be played by a skilled player. Really amazing but honestly truly rare too. So it means most groups generally push for berserkers and guardians for tough zones since they can hold aggro the easiest. So it seems you'll probably looking at guardian/berzerker (will find it hard to find raid guilds) or shamans, clerics or a warden. I am sure I'll get flamed by furies for this - but honestly any fury player with their eyes open will be able to see how badly their class popularity is affecting their reputations due to poor players. It may be the class to 'be' at the moment but it is definitely not the class to be 'with' (unless on the rare chance you are with a decent fury. At the moment with a gazillion furies everywhere, its probably the same as getting a master chest off a random mob SMILEY

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Lornick · 07-15-2007, 01:52 AM

ghepeto wrote:

I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class?

Like most MMO's the more highly sought after groupable classes tend to be the utility/support classes. Bards (dirge/troub), chanters (coercers, illusionists), shamans (mystic, defiler) are all good choices in this regard. Everyone likes players that make themselves look better =p

MadLordOfMilk · 07-15-2007, 03:16 AM

Generally I see people spring on Bards, and to a lesser extent Enchanters. Other than that, non-druid healers (you see that a lot in level chat... "group LF non-druid healer" because they've already got a Fury, as does every other group, and there's still 437 Furies LFG in every tier.)

ke'la · 07-15-2007, 06:19 AM

Lornick wrote:

ghepeto wrote:
I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class?
Like most MMO's the more highly sought after groupable classes tend to be the utility/support classes. Bards (dirge/troub), chanters (coercers, illusionists), shamans (mystic, defiler) are all good choices in this regard. Everyone likes players that make themselves look better =p

Only problem is, with how easy most of the group content is, the Utility classes really can't shine in groups and that leads to the ignorant, not wanting them in thier groups because they think they can do just as well without them, that makes lvling much harder, however once you get into the range of the more experianced players that know what Utility does for you, you will accually have to go /anon to avoid tells from people wanting you to group with them(if you are good at your class)

Belaythien · 07-15-2007, 10:18 AM

Healers, tanks or utility classes are all wrong in my opinion. Pure DDs are those who find groups the easiest. Every group can take up to four DDs. You only need a single tank and one (or two for the really hard zones) healers. Utility classes are nice but not really needed and can easily replaced by a real DD. Manareg is nice to some extent but as with all utility classes you only need one. Yet you always need multiple DDs. Raids are another thing but even there DDs are almost always wanted.

StoneySilen · 07-15-2007, 12:59 PM

Belaythien wrote:

Healers, tanks or utility classes are all wrong in my opinion. Pure DDs are those who find groups the easiest. Every group can take up to four DDs. You only need a single tank and one (or two for the really hard zones) healers. Utility classes are nice but not really needed and can easily replaced by a real DD. Manareg is nice to some extent but as with all utility classes you only need one. Yet you always need multiple DDs. Raids are another thing but even there DDs are almost always wanted.

I disagree, my 63 Wiz has a hard time finding groups because there are always 5-10 other wizards or other dps classes looking for groups. I regularly see LF Tanks, Healers but rarely see LF DPS at the higher levels. There are tons of DPS in the upper levels so easy to fill.

Cathars · 07-15-2007, 02:25 PM

ghepeto wrote:

What about the Troubador or Dirge? Or they easy to find?

Bards are awesome and are generally pretty rare. As you can see from the variety of responses, the population distribution is different across different servers, and with the number of people who play with /anon flag up its hard to gauge it without being around every day to watch. What server are you going to play on? Maybe some people from there will have more concrete info.

Zaurus · 07-15-2007, 04:09 PM

Your best bet would be to just play what ever you think will be fun for you. The "most wanted" classes change all the time and is not a good thing to go by when deciding what class you want to play. You might be able to get into a group easier with some classes than others, but the important thing is, are you having fun with your class while in that group?

07-14-2007, 08:19 PM	#2
StoneySilen General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 883	Differs at the different levels as well. In the lower levels DPS is kinda hard to find. In the upper levels it is healers and tanks. __________________

07-14-2007, 08:50 PM	#4
VizP Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 558	When you join a group at higher levels, the sticking point is the tank or the healer - you can form an entire group and then have to wait a long time for either of these two essential to complete it. I have to say that healers are rarer than tanks so you are going to get more 'looking for healer' shouts than 'looking for tank' shouts. Also it is essential to note that if you want to raid in the future, both are not equally needed - in fact the tanks are the LEAST wanted in raids because a raid group only needs a main tank and an off tank in the entire raid - so its rare to find guilds actively trying to find a tank class (they are usually filled in these ranks fast). However guilds will always be on the look out for healers as a decent raid will have 3 healers in the main group alone, perhaps seven is the magic number, and with three archetypes offering important differences, guilds will be looking for clericsm druids AND shamans. Not so for tanks - guardians usually always tanking the MT spot in raids. Anyway in terms of tanks and healers, once more it is not equal selection within each class - some are preferred more than others: Healers: Its fair to say that while all the healers are powerful in their own right, furies have taken a flavour of the last few months feel due to the fact they can DPS the best out of the healer classes - it has meant that that it is one of the most popular classes in the game, and of course when a class is that popular, you can trust you will have a lot of poor players flocking to it. Furies are starting to get a poor reputation as healers due to players speccing DPS and choosing to pump out the numbers in groups rather than heal (and furies are definitely not good at doing both at the same time). You can't blame groups for discriminating against furies - i.e 'that fury might be one of the decent ones, but chances are with the number of these guys - probably 'not'. Wardens and of course both clerics and shamans are desperately sought after however... although both defilers and inquisitors are rarer than the others. Tanks: People prefer plated tanks which means bruisers/monks rarely find themselves are main tanks unless they are the 'only' tanks - it has to do with the fact that only shamans can heal them better than other healers to take care of 'spike' damage. Since they are avoidance tanks, when they do get hit they get hit hard - regens and reactives dont cope with this as well as all encompassing wards so groups generally push for plate tanks who have far higher mitigation (and of course less avoidance). However crusaders (paladins/sks) actually sadly suffer from the 'fury' effect too - their taunts require considerable skill and unforunately both these classes are popular due to the type of classes they are often resulting in players that are simply not very good at holding aggro (the class is not good for lazy players - effort is needed to keep mobs on you and lazy players are a dime a dozen). It means groups have horror stories of poor crusaders tanking. I personally believe the aggro to be a class issue until I was shown how these classes can be played by a skilled player. Really amazing but honestly truly rare too. So it means most groups generally push for berserkers and guardians for tough zones since they can hold aggro the easiest. So it seems you'll probably looking at guardian/berzerker (will find it hard to find raid guilds) or shamans, clerics or a warden. I am sure I'll get flamed by furies for this - but honestly any fury player with their eyes open will be able to see how badly their class popularity is affecting their reputations due to poor players. It may be the class to 'be' at the moment but it is definitely not the class to be 'with' (unless on the rare chance you are with a decent fury. At the moment with a gazillion furies everywhere, its probably the same as getting a master chest off a random mob ) __________________ The Fable of the Soulmover - Silthian's Journal

07-15-2007, 01:52 AM	#5
Lornick Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 1,114	ghepeto wrote: I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class? Like most MMO's the more highly sought after groupable classes tend to be the utility/support classes. Bards (dirge/troub), chanters (coercers, illusionists), shamans (mystic, defiler) are all good choices in this regard. Everyone likes players that make themselves look better =p __________________

07-15-2007, 06:19 AM	#7
ke'la Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,445	Lornick wrote: ghepeto wrote: I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class? Like most MMO's the more highly sought after groupable classes tend to be the utility/support classes. Bards (dirge/troub), chanters (coercers, illusionists), shamans (mystic, defiler) are all good choices in this regard. Everyone likes players that make themselves look better =p Only problem is, with how easy most of the group content is, the Utility classes really can't shine in groups and that leads to the ignorant, not wanting them in thier groups because they think they can do just as well without them, that makes lvling much harder, however once you get into the range of the more experianced players that know what Utility does for you, you will accually have to go /anon to avoid tells from people wanting you to group with them(if you are good at your class) __________________

07-15-2007, 12:59 PM	#9
StoneySilen General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 883	Belaythien wrote: Healers, tanks or utility classes are all wrong in my opinion. Pure DDs are those who find groups the easiest. Every group can take up to four DDs. You only need a single tank and one (or two for the really hard zones) healers. Utility classes are nice but not really needed and can easily replaced by a real DD. Manareg is nice to some extent but as with all utility classes you only need one. Yet you always need multiple DDs. Raids are another thing but even there DDs are almost always wanted. I disagree, my 63 Wiz has a hard time finding groups because there are always 5-10 other wizards or other dps classes looking for groups. I regularly see LF Tanks, Healers but rarely see LF DPS at the higher levels. There are tons of DPS in the upper levels so easy to fill. __________________

07-14-2007, 08:14 PM	#1
ghepeto Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9	I've played a lot off mmos and I've always found out which class is the most "wanted," b/c i want to easily get a party. I know this is going to range with servers but which class is the average have to have hard to get in a group class?

07-14-2007, 08:45 PM	#3
ghepeto Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 9	What about the Troubador or Dirge? Or they easy to find?

07-15-2007, 03:16 AM	#6
MadLordOfMilk Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 406	Generally I see people spring on Bards, and to a lesser extent Enchanters. Other than that, non-druid healers (you see that a lot in level chat... "group LF non-druid healer" because they've already got a Fury, as does every other group, and there's still 437 Furies LFG in every tier.)

07-15-2007, 10:18 AM	#8
Belaythien Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 576	Healers, tanks or utility classes are all wrong in my opinion. Pure DDs are those who find groups the easiest. Every group can take up to four DDs. You only need a single tank and one (or two for the really hard zones) healers. Utility classes are nice but not really needed and can easily replaced by a real DD. Manareg is nice to some extent but as with all utility classes you only need one. Yet you always need multiple DDs. Raids are another thing but even there DDs are almost always wanted.

07-15-2007, 02:25 PM	#10
Cathars General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 446	ghepeto wrote: What about the Troubador or Dirge? Or they easy to find? Bards are awesome and are generally pretty rare. As you can see from the variety of responses, the population distribution is different across different servers, and with the number of people who play with /anon flag up its hard to gauge it without being around every day to watch. What server are you going to play on? Maybe some people from there will have more concrete info.

07-15-2007, 04:09 PM	#11
Zaurus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 73	Your best bet would be to just play what ever you think will be fun for you. The "most wanted" classes change all the time and is not a good thing to go by when deciding what class you want to play. You might be able to get into a group easier with some classes than others, but the important thing is, are you having fun with your class while in that group?