Anyone get pickpocket yet?

The-Fourm-Pirate · 02-22-2006, 06:39 PM

I just got KoS this morning, and don't have time to play really, has anyone gotten pickpocket, if so:

A) is it on such a huge timer that it's worthless?

B) will it work on players, or just stealing coin from enemys EQ1 style?

C) do you have to be in combat to use it? (I'd like to try to pickpocket the level 75 epic x4 guards XD)

m0ya · 02-22-2006, 06:44 PM

I tried it on some Thundering steppes Guars and... it suck.... I steal 93 copper!! Yay! 1min recast.... yep.. it suck!

Cerivus2 · 02-22-2006, 07:05 PM

So far. Worthless. I have tried and tested it out on Players. No dice. Also, try it on Player pets, no dice. It say Humanoid mobs, but the Bixies on Bixie Isle give ya nothing! No Dice. I got it to work on one T7 mob and what did I get... Are you Ready!!!!

53c.

Don't get me started on Aggro control or AR. Just disappointing.

Gyilok · 02-22-2006, 08:04 PM

only mobs i could rob in KoS zones sofar were the bird people, but tried it on some giants in ss mostly for 3-4s

Shidonya · 02-22-2006, 09:18 PM

HOLY COW!!!! Everyone needs to get to poets palace you will get 6sp per pick pocket (sarcasm over) what a waste of time I mean why bother so every fight I can assure myself of 4 to 6 sp's are they serious?

some_perso · 02-23-2006, 12:24 AM

At least its better than bounty lol

Rezikai · 02-23-2006, 01:21 AM

some_person6 wrote:
At least its better than bounty lol

I wonder... I was in a group w/ an Assassin last night and he said the bounty occurs when the mob dies he gets coin for it... idk if thats restricted just to humanoid mobs like our spell indicates..

while in KoS my average using Pickpocket was about 2-4silver ... and those were the time i WASNT caught... lol.. seems even though the mob is attacking the tank all to hell and back he still can stop us from reaching into his purse...

the recast timer really needs to be looked at tho.. w/in the 1 min recast my group had killed 2-3 mobs easily.. and of course the assassin got his bounty... lol.. ( bah yes I believe a rogue should get more money then a predator )

so maybe a 10-20 second recast timer might be more apprpriate for this spell.

Message Edited by Porkchop133 on 02-22-200603:23 PM

shirpa · 02-23-2006, 05:34 AM

Even tho you don't really get much, 6sp is the most I've gotten, I'm glad they finally gave us pickpocket. It makes me start to feel like a rogue again. Relatively speaking tho, I think it's pretty close to what you could pick in EQ1. I don't recall making huge amounts of money from pickpocketing in that game either.

Nezumigami · 02-23-2006, 07:28 AM

The nice thing about this thread is when someone says "Well that's my 2cp on the subject" they can mean it literally.Also might I add to the poster above me that your Sig is definately the best ratonga sig I have ever seen. Nice furry snout and under the eyes (I used to have rats as pets way back in the day).

Kodros · 02-23-2006, 01:06 PM

I think its a fun spell. Not useful at all but fun. BTW I tried to pickpocket a level 66 guard in FP and got owned lol....5900 dmg. So, not learning my lesson at all, I figured I would give the level 74 epic x4 guard mob a try =) Needless to say, I didn't last very long after his first hit of 20k dmg.

Skratttt · 02-23-2006, 01:32 PM

Bounty is the first of ANY mob we get a killshot on while under the effect last 3 min....Recast is 5 min

So 5 min recast for max 6 silver??? il trade u for pickpocket any time!!

shirpa · 02-23-2006, 02:42 PM

Nezumigami wrote:Also might I add to the poster above me that your Sig is definately the best ratonga sig I have ever seen. Nice furry snout and under the eyes (I used to have rats as pets way back in the day).

Thank you! =^_^= :smileyhappy:

Lyasa · 02-26-2006, 01:15 AM

my biggest PP is 6s98c haha. actually over a night i end up w/ ~3000c and ~1000s justt from PP alone. that's about 6 hours of hunting, so it pays the equipment repair bills.

The-Fourm-Pirate · 02-26-2006, 10:36 AM

I tested to make sure epics don't drop a decent ammount, they don't. Level 65 epicX3 guard in WFP gave me 5s 40c.

Zade_ · 02-26-2006, 11:12 PM

really? I've gotten as much as 8 silver (!!!) from 70ish ^^^'s

Cerivus2 · 02-27-2006, 07:27 PM

I am so angry at this ability.

They should increase the value that you can pickpocket or drasticly decrease the ability use timer. It's worthless currently and takes more time to cast it than the reward that you can get from it.

Neen · 02-27-2006, 08:30 PM

Whats funny is another group member heard the "cha ching" sound when I pickpocked a giant in Sol's eye. So, I got around 2s for it and got caught! I'm surprised the giant didn't whip a purse out and beat the crap out of me! :smileysurprised:

Kegofbud · 02-27-2006, 11:10 PM

I've added it to all attack macro's that I've created in game. Now whenever I'm letting the group know that I've debuffed the mob, I'm also pulling 6s. :smileyvery-happy:

Fig · 02-28-2006, 04:29 AM

Kegofbud wrote:
I've added it to all attack macro's that I've created in game. Now whenever I'm letting the group know that I've debuffed the mob, I'm also pulling 6s. :smileyvery-happy:

First, that's a very good idea. I'll keep that in mind and try to find a way to work it in.

Second, so far, I don't know if I can say it has been 100% useless to me cuz afterall, 6s is 6s right? It just hasn't been worth my time to remember to click the silly thing, and when I have the failures have been overwhelming compared to the successes.

(now a tiny bit off topic)

Third, I've never created any attack-combo macros, only text macros to alert my raid of when the big debuffs land. Positioning, timing, how my aggro "feels", how the fight is going, lots of things change the way I play my skills (ever so slightly) so I've never felt comfortable with the chain command macros, so I click em the manual way. I'm talking about raids here too, never felt the need to call out every debuff in groups, only when we've got the nukers wanting to know when to toss Ice Comet out, hehe.

Finally, with as much lag as I have had lately between combat arts (1 to 3 seconds between skills is common) I don't see how any combat macros could work.

PS: 1 to 3 seconds combat art lag makes double up nearly useless, but I digress.

Ergot Jones of Unrest

Timesquare · 02-28-2006, 12:36 PM

useless but fun skill, if we can use it on players would be hilarious

Message Edited by Timesquare on 02-27-200611:36 PM

The-Fourm-Pirate · 02-28-2006, 06:33 PM

Actually i've found if you use it every chance you get in a group you can pull at least 10g a session in with it, usually pays about half of a raid repair bill, not amazing but hey, it's free money.

Trollb · 02-28-2006, 08:05 PM

actually, on the new servers where everyone lvl 20 isnt twinked to hell and beyond, and you can still buy a tier2 dagger for under 1000 plats... having 40 copper every minute adds up. Considering at my current level i make maybe 50 silver per group which may last two or three hours, well half that profit could be from pickpocket.

Now, the downside is if i get pkd, there goes most of my coin, but thats the life of a rogue.

Speaking which, being a rogue on a pvp server is a little rough until you get into group vs group... and then positionals get REAL fun hehehe.

MadLordOfMilk · 03-06-2006, 10:07 AM

Trollboy wrote:
actually, on the new servers where everyone lvl 20 isnt twinked to hell and beyond, and you can still buy a tier2 dagger for under 1000 plats... having 40 copper every minute adds up. Considering at my current level i make maybe 50 silver per group which may last two or three hours, well half that profit could be from pickpocket.

Now, the downside is if i get pkd, there goes most of my coin, but thats the life of a rogue.

Speaking which, being a rogue on a pvp server is a little rough until you get into group vs group... and then positionals get REAL fun hehehe.

Actually IMO rogues own in PvP :smileyhappy: Particularly because you can taunt a healer and they can no longer heal anyone but themselves (w/o group heals), pretty useful.

02-22-2006, 06:39 PM	#1
The-Fourm-Pirate Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 482	I just got KoS this morning, and don't have time to play really, has anyone gotten pickpocket, if so: A) is it on such a huge timer that it's worthless? B) will it work on players, or just stealing coin from enemys EQ1 style? C) do you have to be in combat to use it? (I'd like to try to pickpocket the level 75 epic x4 guards XD) __________________ Desann: 70 Brigand Bossk: 70 Inquisitor

02-22-2006, 07:05 PM	#3
Cerivus2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 84	So far. Worthless. I have tried and tested it out on Players. No dice. Also, try it on Player pets, no dice. It say Humanoid mobs, but the Bixies on Bixie Isle give ya nothing! No Dice. I got it to work on one T7 mob and what did I get... Are you Ready!!!! 53c. Don't get me started on Aggro control or AR. Just disappointing. __________________ Hymenoptera Venom (that's a classification you [Removed for Content]) Amazingless Reflexes is so much better now due to Awesome SOE Programming

02-22-2006, 08:04 PM	#4
Gyilok Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 696	only mobs i could rob in KoS zones sofar were the bird people, but tried it on some giants in ss mostly for 3-4s __________________ Stizeyo

02-23-2006, 01:21 AM	#7
Rezikai Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 561	some_person6 wrote: At least its better than bounty lol I wonder... I was in a group w/ an Assassin last night and he said the bounty occurs when the mob dies he gets coin for it... idk if thats restricted just to humanoid mobs like our spell indicates.. while in KoS my average using Pickpocket was about 2-4silver ... and those were the time i WASNT caught... lol.. seems even though the mob is attacking the tank all to hell and back he still can stop us from reaching into his purse... the recast timer really needs to be looked at tho.. w/in the 1 min recast my group had killed 2-3 mobs easily.. and of course the assassin got his bounty... lol.. ( bah yes I believe a rogue should get more money then a predator ) so maybe a 10-20 second recast timer might be more apprpriate for this spell. Message Edited by Porkchop133 on 02-22-200603:23 PM __________________

02-23-2006, 05:34 AM	#8
shirpa Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 181	Even tho you don't really get much, 6sp is the most I've gotten, I'm glad they finally gave us pickpocket. It makes me start to feel like a rogue again. Relatively speaking tho, I think it's pretty close to what you could pick in EQ1. I don't recall making huge amounts of money from pickpocketing in that game either. __________________

02-22-2006, 06:44 PM	#2
m0ya Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 192	I tried it on some Thundering steppes Guars and... it suck.... I steal 93 copper!! Yay! 1min recast.... yep.. it suck!

02-22-2006, 09:18 PM	#5
Shidonya Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 130	HOLY COW!!!! Everyone needs to get to poets palace you will get 6sp per pick pocket (sarcasm over) what a waste of time I mean why bother so every fight I can assure myself of 4 to 6 sp's are they serious?

02-23-2006, 12:24 AM	#6
some_perso Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 57	At least its better than bounty lol

02-23-2006, 07:28 AM	#9
Nezumigami Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 81	The nice thing about this thread is when someone says "Well that's my 2cp on the subject" they can mean it literally.Also might I add to the poster above me that your Sig is definately the best ratonga sig I have ever seen. Nice furry snout and under the eyes (I used to have rats as pets way back in the day). __________________ Dilly Jumbelly - 70 Warden (semi-retired) Lhegpeg Rottun'Trouserz 70Handsome first Troll Swashbuckler on Najena Baubbleshire Najena

02-23-2006, 01:06 PM	#10
Kodros Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 181	I think its a fun spell. Not useful at all but fun. BTW I tried to pickpocket a level 66 guard in FP and got owned lol....5900 dmg. So, not learning my lesson at all, I figured I would give the level 74 epic x4 guard mob a try =) Needless to say, I didn't last very long after his first hit of 20k dmg. __________________

02-23-2006, 01:32 PM	#11
Skratttt Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 375	Bounty is the first of ANY mob we get a killshot on while under the effect last 3 min....Recast is 5 min So 5 min recast for max 6 silver??? il trade u for pickpocket any time!!

02-23-2006, 02:42 PM	#12
shirpa Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 181	Nezumigami wrote:Also might I add to the poster above me that your Sig is definately the best ratonga sig I have ever seen. Nice furry snout and under the eyes (I used to have rats as pets way back in the day). Thank you! =^_^= :smileyhappy: __________________

02-26-2006, 01:15 AM	#13
Lyasa Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 234	my biggest PP is 6s98c haha. actually over a night i end up w/ ~3000c and ~1000s justt from PP alone. that's about 6 hours of hunting, so it pays the equipment repair bills.

02-26-2006, 10:36 AM	#14
The-Fourm-Pirate Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 482	I tested to make sure epics don't drop a decent ammount, they don't. Level 65 epicX3 guard in WFP gave me 5s 40c. __________________ Desann: 70 Brigand Bossk: 70 Inquisitor

02-26-2006, 11:12 PM	#15
Zade_ General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 58	really? I've gotten as much as 8 silver (!!!) from 70ish ^^^'s __________________

02-27-2006, 07:27 PM	#16
Cerivus2 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 84	I am so angry at this ability. They should increase the value that you can pickpocket or drasticly decrease the ability use timer. It's worthless currently and takes more time to cast it than the reward that you can get from it. __________________ Hymenoptera Venom (that's a classification you [Removed for Content]) Amazingless Reflexes is so much better now due to Awesome SOE Programming

02-27-2006, 08:30 PM	#17
Neen Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Whats funny is another group member heard the "cha ching" sound when I pickpocked a giant in Sol's eye. So, I got around 2s for it and got caught! I'm surprised the giant didn't whip a purse out and beat the crap out of me! :smileysurprised: __________________ 70 Brigand/70 Tailor Unrest

02-27-2006, 11:10 PM	#18
Kegofbud Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 925	I've added it to all attack macro's that I've created in game. Now whenever I'm letting the group know that I've debuffed the mob, I'm also pulling 6s. :smileyvery-happy: __________________ Choatly - 90 Defiler

02-28-2006, 04:29 AM	#19
Fig Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 35	Kegofbud wrote: I've added it to all attack macro's that I've created in game. Now whenever I'm letting the group know that I've debuffed the mob, I'm also pulling 6s. :smileyvery-happy: First, that's a very good idea. I'll keep that in mind and try to find a way to work it in. Second, so far, I don't know if I can say it has been 100% useless to me cuz afterall, 6s is 6s right? It just hasn't been worth my time to remember to click the silly thing, and when I have the failures have been overwhelming compared to the successes. (now a tiny bit off topic) Third, I've never created any attack-combo macros, only text macros to alert my raid of when the big debuffs land. Positioning, timing, how my aggro "feels", how the fight is going, lots of things change the way I play my skills (ever so slightly) so I've never felt comfortable with the chain command macros, so I click em the manual way. I'm talking about raids here too, never felt the need to call out every debuff in groups, only when we've got the nukers wanting to know when to toss Ice Comet out, hehe. Finally, with as much lag as I have had lately between combat arts (1 to 3 seconds between skills is common) I don't see how any combat macros could work. PS: 1 to 3 seconds combat art lag makes double up nearly useless, but I digress. Ergot Jones of Unrest

02-28-2006, 12:36 PM	#20
Timesquare Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 156	useless but fun skill, if we can use it on players would be hilarious Message Edited by Timesquare on 02-27-200611:36 PM

02-28-2006, 06:33 PM	#21
The-Fourm-Pirate Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 482	Actually i've found if you use it every chance you get in a group you can pull at least 10g a session in with it, usually pays about half of a raid repair bill, not amazing but hey, it's free money. __________________ Desann: 70 Brigand Bossk: 70 Inquisitor

02-28-2006, 08:05 PM	#22
Trollb General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 94	actually, on the new servers where everyone lvl 20 isnt twinked to hell and beyond, and you can still buy a tier2 dagger for under 1000 plats... having 40 copper every minute adds up. Considering at my current level i make maybe 50 silver per group which may last two or three hours, well half that profit could be from pickpocket. Now, the downside is if i get pkd, there goes most of my coin, but thats the life of a rogue. Speaking which, being a rogue on a pvp server is a little rough until you get into group vs group... and then positionals get REAL fun hehehe.

03-06-2006, 10:07 AM	#23
MadLordOfMilk Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NY Posts: 406	Trollboy wrote: actually, on the new servers where everyone lvl 20 isnt twinked to hell and beyond, and you can still buy a tier2 dagger for under 1000 plats... having 40 copper every minute adds up. Considering at my current level i make maybe 50 silver per group which may last two or three hours, well half that profit could be from pickpocket. Now, the downside is if i get pkd, there goes most of my coin, but thats the life of a rogue. Speaking which, being a rogue on a pvp server is a little rough until you get into group vs group... and then positionals get REAL fun hehehe. Actually IMO rogues own in PvP :smileyhappy: Particularly because you can taunt a healer and they can no longer heal anyone but themselves (w/o group heals), pretty useful.