Next upgrade?

Bewk · 03-14-2005, 10:18 PM

Hello I am to a point where I am not sure what spell to upgrade to Adept 3. I am currently 29 and I am not sure what spells if any I need to upgrade in the near future. Below is my spell list please let me know if you notice any glaring deficincies. Thanks in advance.

Lesser Heal Adept 3

Greater Heal Adept 3

Soothing sermon Adept 3

Intercession Adept 3

BoV Adept 3

Suplicants prayer Adept 3

Cobative faith Master 1

Admonishing smite Adept 3

Cylestial Strike adept 3

Amendign fate adept 3

Combat healing adept 3

Rest of my spells are either app 4 or adept 1. I heal and nuke great but I was wondering if any buffs or debuffs are worth upgrading to Adept 3s. Also if I am good for now what spells should I be looking at upgrading in the near future. Let me know if you have any idead.

Thanks=)

LSUwe · 03-15-2005, 01:00 AM

Maybe I'm the exception, but your spell list looks like a Mercedes while mine is like a small Kia. How on Earth did you get all those Adept III's at level 29? I'm at 30 and only have a few Adept I's on me, no Adept III's, and most others are App IV.

I'd say your list is fine. I'd also say that if your list is normal, then my list needs some serious help, as well as my bank account. I don't even have double digit gold yet, so can't even think about purchasing Adept III's.

Bewk · 03-15-2005, 01:19 AM

I have to agree I am probably above average on amount of adept 3 I have, but I am sure there are plenty out there that have more. I have a teir 5 provisioner that has financed my upgrades. It has come at a cost since the people I started playing with are 15 levels higher then me but I am a well equiped 29 cleric. Anyway just wanting to see what to upgrade now since all my heals and stuff are good to go.

Pnaxx · 03-15-2005, 01:23 AM

He's just showin off:smileywink:

Bewk · 03-15-2005, 01:39 AM

No not trying to show off I am actually asking a legtimate question. As with most classes there are a lot of spells that are broke wen trying to upgrade them and I want to make sure I don't upgrade one of them. I have a jasper I can use and want to know what will be the most effective to upgrade or if there are none sell it. I posted my spell list so as to not get redundant information that has been posted elsewehere. If I would have just said level 29 templar wanting to know what to get adept 3 I would have gotten 20 responces saying intercession. I have that and though hard work have a few others and just wanted to kow if any debuff or buffs are worth the upgrade at my level. Anyway my question is still out there if anyone thinks I could benefit from another teir 3 adept 3 or if I should just sell it and if anyone can give me an idea what spells to upgrade next in teir 4.

Thanks

Pnaxx · 03-15-2005, 02:39 AM

Bewkar...no kidding...ur my hero:smileywink:

IM goin fer provisioner too...right now can only make tier 2 drink and am realizing that i need to spend serious time with my craft. So i am just having fun with ya...ur gear looks awsome and i have input about that at all.

Message Edited by Pnaxx on 03-14-2005 01:40 PM

LSUwe · 03-15-2005, 03:04 AM

Bewkar,

You have my utmost respect, from a fellow Templar and aspiring chef. If you've put the time and grind into making Prov 50, I say get whatever you desire. I'm only a 22 provisioner and I can't even bring myself to grind the next level and a half to be able to make tier 3 drinks.

Regarding your buffs / debuffs:

You may want to look at your Individual WIS buff (Protectorate I think), or your group health / power buffs like Symbol of Ryltan or Protective Faith. No idea what the difference between App IV and Ad III is, but I use these all the time.

I also use Disgrace to pull solos or fight in groups. At 30, one of the specialized spells is a upgrade to that, but I took the group elemental cure.

ken · 03-16-2005, 01:26 AM

I would have gone with more group friendly spells. I'm lvl 38 now but here's my setup for 1-29 spells:

Rebuke - adept 3 - recommended; I still cast this today as its on a different timer from our other debuffs. Its no where near reproach but it still helps.

Smite - adept 3 - recommended - yup, I still use this one; great for wheels as it costs next to nothing to cast.

BoV - adept 3 - you have

Soothing Sermon - adept 3 - you have

Combat Healing - adept 3 - you have

Redoubt - adept 3 - would be recommended but your almost to Pious Redoubt which immediately replaces redoubt.

Arch Healing - master I - recommend adept 3

Daring - adept 3 - not recommended only because your gettig close to bravery

Sign of Weakness - master I - recommend adept 3

Combative Faith - master I - you have; sweet spell.

Disgrace - adept 3 - I took the attribute instead so this isn't recommened assuming you did the same. Otherwise it would be recommended.

Protectorate - adept 3 - a pain to keep up all the time so not recommended

Supplican't Prayer - adept 3 - you have

Intercession - adept 3 - you have

Protective Faith - adept 3 - highly recommended

Next few...only if you have a lot of money. Remember lvl 40-50 spells (and a couple below) you will want adept 3 at some point and that costs mega $$$.

Symbol of Ryltan - adept 3 - recommended

Restoration - adept 3 - recommended

Beams of Faith - adept 1 - I would recommend adept 3..it was very tempting for me and I don't blast all that much. But hey, area effect damage spells are a lot of fun SMILEY

Bravery - adept 3 - recommended

So for the time being rebuke, sign of weakness, protective faith and possibly smite. However I have a different game style then you...For high level mobs I cast sign of weakness first. Next (or lower level mobs) I cast reproach followed by rebuke, then combative faith. I usally only use combative faith for damage unless I'm doing wheels in which case I use smite.

Baelno · 03-16-2005, 08:52 PM

LSUwest wrote:
Maybe I'm the exception, but your spell list looks like a Mercedes while mine is like a small Kia. How on Earth did you get all those Adept III's at level 29? I'm at 30 and only have a few Adept I's on me, no Adept III's, and most others are App IV.

I'd say your list is fine. I'd also say that if your list is normal, then my list needs some serious help, as well as my bank account. I don't even have double digit gold yet, so can't even think about purchasing Adept III's.

Concur. Im in the same boat here.-Baelnorm

Hun · 03-17-2005, 07:41 PM

Bravery is good, but Protective Faith & Redoubt are not worth it in T4 or in T5 apparently, don't waste your coin/rares.

03-16-2005, 01:26 AM	#8
ken Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 117	I would have gone with more group friendly spells. I'm lvl 38 now but here's my setup for 1-29 spells: Rebuke - adept 3 - recommended; I still cast this today as its on a different timer from our other debuffs. Its no where near reproach but it still helps. Smite - adept 3 - recommended - yup, I still use this one; great for wheels as it costs next to nothing to cast. BoV - adept 3 - you have Soothing Sermon - adept 3 - you have Combat Healing - adept 3 - you have Redoubt - adept 3 - would be recommended but your almost to Pious Redoubt which immediately replaces redoubt. Arch Healing - master I - recommend adept 3 Daring - adept 3 - not recommended only because your gettig close to bravery Sign of Weakness - master I - recommend adept 3 Combative Faith - master I - you have; sweet spell. Disgrace - adept 3 - I took the attribute instead so this isn't recommened assuming you did the same. Otherwise it would be recommended. Protectorate - adept 3 - a pain to keep up all the time so not recommended Supplican't Prayer - adept 3 - you have Intercession - adept 3 - you have Protective Faith - adept 3 - highly recommended Next few...only if you have a lot of money. Remember lvl 40-50 spells (and a couple below) you will want adept 3 at some point and that costs mega $$$. Symbol of Ryltan - adept 3 - recommended Restoration - adept 3 - recommended Beams of Faith - adept 1 - I would recommend adept 3..it was very tempting for me and I don't blast all that much. But hey, area effect damage spells are a lot of fun Bravery - adept 3 - recommended So for the time being rebuke, sign of weakness, protective faith and possibly smite. However I have a different game style then you...For high level mobs I cast sign of weakness first. Next (or lower level mobs) I cast reproach followed by rebuke, then combative faith. I usally only use combative faith for damage unless I'm doing wheels in which case I use smite.

03-16-2005, 08:52 PM	#9
Baelno Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10	LSUwest wrote: Maybe I'm the exception, but your spell list looks like a Mercedes while mine is like a small Kia. How on Earth did you get all those Adept III's at level 29? I'm at 30 and only have a few Adept I's on me, no Adept III's, and most others are App IV. I'd say your list is fine. I'd also say that if your list is normal, then my list needs some serious help, as well as my bank account. I don't even have double digit gold yet, so can't even think about purchasing Adept III's. Concur. Im in the same boat here.-Baelnorm

03-17-2005, 07:41 PM	#10
Hun Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	Bravery is good, but Protective Faith & Redoubt are not worth it in T4 or in T5 apparently, don't waste your coin/rares. __________________ Shadowhaven: Luci 60 Templar:60 Woodworker [EtherealLegacy] Hunda 45 Ranger:60 Alchemist

03-14-2005, 10:18 PM	#1
Bewk Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	Hello I am to a point where I am not sure what spell to upgrade to Adept 3. I am currently 29 and I am not sure what spells if any I need to upgrade in the near future. Below is my spell list please let me know if you notice any glaring deficincies. Thanks in advance. Lesser Heal Adept 3 Greater Heal Adept 3 Soothing sermon Adept 3 Intercession Adept 3 BoV Adept 3 Suplicants prayer Adept 3 Cobative faith Master 1 Admonishing smite Adept 3 Cylestial Strike adept 3 Amendign fate adept 3 Combat healing adept 3 Rest of my spells are either app 4 or adept 1. I heal and nuke great but I was wondering if any buffs or debuffs are worth upgrading to Adept 3s. Also if I am good for now what spells should I be looking at upgrading in the near future. Let me know if you have any idead. Thanks=)

03-15-2005, 01:00 AM	#2
LSUwe Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	Maybe I'm the exception, but your spell list looks like a Mercedes while mine is like a small Kia. How on Earth did you get all those Adept III's at level 29? I'm at 30 and only have a few Adept I's on me, no Adept III's, and most others are App IV. I'd say your list is fine. I'd also say that if your list is normal, then my list needs some serious help, as well as my bank account. I don't even have double digit gold yet, so can't even think about purchasing Adept III's.

03-15-2005, 01:19 AM	#3
Bewk Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	I have to agree I am probably above average on amount of adept 3 I have, but I am sure there are plenty out there that have more. I have a teir 5 provisioner that has financed my upgrades. It has come at a cost since the people I started playing with are 15 levels higher then me but I am a well equiped 29 cleric. Anyway just wanting to see what to upgrade now since all my heals and stuff are good to go.

03-15-2005, 01:23 AM	#4
Pnaxx Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,124	He's just showin off:smileywink:

03-15-2005, 01:39 AM	#5
Bewk Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20	No not trying to show off I am actually asking a legtimate question. As with most classes there are a lot of spells that are broke wen trying to upgrade them and I want to make sure I don't upgrade one of them. I have a jasper I can use and want to know what will be the most effective to upgrade or if there are none sell it. I posted my spell list so as to not get redundant information that has been posted elsewehere. If I would have just said level 29 templar wanting to know what to get adept 3 I would have gotten 20 responces saying intercession. I have that and though hard work have a few others and just wanted to kow if any debuff or buffs are worth the upgrade at my level. Anyway my question is still out there if anyone thinks I could benefit from another teir 3 adept 3 or if I should just sell it and if anyone can give me an idea what spells to upgrade next in teir 4. Thanks

03-15-2005, 02:39 AM	#6
Pnaxx Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,124	Bewkar...no kidding...ur my hero:smileywink: IM goin fer provisioner too...right now can only make tier 2 drink and am realizing that i need to spend serious time with my craft. So i am just having fun with ya...ur gear looks awsome and i have input about that at all. Message Edited by Pnaxx on 03-14-2005 01:40 PM

03-15-2005, 03:04 AM	#7
LSUwe Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	Bewkar, You have my utmost respect, from a fellow Templar and aspiring chef. If you've put the time and grind into making Prov 50, I say get whatever you desire. I'm only a 22 provisioner and I can't even bring myself to grind the next level and a half to be able to make tier 3 drinks. Regarding your buffs / debuffs: You may want to look at your Individual WIS buff (Protectorate I think), or your group health / power buffs like Symbol of Ryltan or Protective Faith. No idea what the difference between App IV and Ad III is, but I use these all the time. I also use Disgrace to pull solos or fight in groups. At 30, one of the specialized spells is a upgrade to that, but I took the group elemental cure.