Roots releasing because I cast harvest?

aa · 03-10-2005, 01:13 AM

Since they increased solo exp last time I have done extensive soloing. Pushing the envelope. As a 35 wizard I soloed a 36 sullen centurian group mob. Took me 3 tries but figured it out. While playing around with this I noticed something funny. My roots broke everytime I cast harvest. And if I cast any spell that gave me mana they had a chance of breaking.

This does not seem right. It is almost like a trap. Cast harvest stun yourself and mob automatically breaks and comes and beats on you.

All of my spells are adept 3 thanks to the hours I spent Tradeskilling before the nerf. Now I am broke but I have my spells bought through level 42. So, I may have an edge over others trying to take on mobs out of our league. My challange is to take on pairs of group mobs my level. I could I think except for one thing. They break root.

I have learned that if I just hit with stun then cast root they stick well, and stay stuck till time on root runs out. But if I throw in a dot this seems to increase the chance of them breaking before time runs out. If I dont mind being slow I stun, root, root, root, stun, root, root, root etc. till it is dead. One problem is I run out of mana this way so I have to cannibalize and harvest. Both tend to break root. It seems to me that this is a bug.

Maybe it is in there to specifically keep me from doing what I am doing which is kill big mobs. But I am maxed out wizard and even with much practice I prolly die enough it is not worth the risk. I am mostly doing it as a challange. The technique has come in handy on occasion when we get an add so I pull agro then root it away form combat for a while, but mostly it is just for entertainment to test what I can do. I have learned not to do it on casters they just stand there rooted and kill you with a few zaps. Plus if they are healers my damage can not keep up, I run out of man way too fast. But for taking out fighters or scouts it seems to be a good method.

I was experimenting with a few blue^^ mobs testing the system and it seems that indeed harvest auto breaks the root and cannalize spells have a chance to break it.

Any other thoughts of what breaks roots?

AngelR · 03-10-2005, 02:53 AM

It may only be my imagination, but it seems to happen too often to be coincidence... I find that triggering an HO (just Arcane Augur, not the first spell in the chain), has a chance of breaking it. A good chance, at that. /shrug

Renynz · 03-10-2005, 12:26 PM

Damage breaks root. I've found that DD breaks it more frequently than DoTs, but any form of damage (either inflicted by you or another) has a chance to break it. Never tried to harvest while I had a mob rooted, but I would wager that it breaks because of the stun component.

Daeanor · 03-10-2005, 11:01 PM

Renynzea wrote:Damage breaks root. I've found that DD breaks it more frequently than DoTs, but any form of damage (either inflicted by you or another) has a chance to break it. Never tried to harvest while I had a mob rooted, but I would wager that it breaks because of the stun component.

But it stuns the caster, not the mob. Doesn't make sense...

Lady Uaelr · 03-10-2005, 11:15 PM

Stun> root> replensih mana>break root>die.

Wizzards are great!!!

greenhor · 03-10-2005, 11:53 PM

I've stopped using HO's while soloing because the starter (even before i cast an actual damage spell) seems to break root ever single time. this just started happening the patch before this one and i wish they'd fix it. can't imagine that's intentional but then again who knows.

aa · 03-11-2005, 12:41 AM

Yes, the HO breaks root too, I stopped using HOs a while back because of this and forgot to include it in my original post.

And I have considered that it could just be coincidence. But I have tested it too many times. You stun yourself the mob breaks root and attacks. The control setting was to take a mob and do nothing but stun and root and time how long it stays rooted. Each time I did this the mob stayed rooted the entire time. It would not break root unless I added some other spell.

I think it is a bug that spells you cast on yourself break root

03-10-2005, 02:53 AM	#2
AngelR Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 50	It may only be my imagination, but it seems to happen too often to be coincidence... I find that triggering an HO (just Arcane Augur, not the first spell in the chain), has a chance of breaking it. A good chance, at that. /shrug __________________

03-10-2005, 11:01 PM	#4
Daeanor Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	Renynzea wrote:Damage breaks root. I've found that DD breaks it more frequently than DoTs, but any form of damage (either inflicted by you or another) has a chance to break it. Never tried to harvest while I had a mob rooted, but I would wager that it breaks because of the stun component. But it stuns the caster, not the mob. Doesn't make sense... __________________

03-10-2005, 01:13 AM	#1
aa Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 24	Since they increased solo exp last time I have done extensive soloing. Pushing the envelope. As a 35 wizard I soloed a 36 sullen centurian group mob. Took me 3 tries but figured it out. While playing around with this I noticed something funny. My roots broke everytime I cast harvest. And if I cast any spell that gave me mana they had a chance of breaking. This does not seem right. It is almost like a trap. Cast harvest stun yourself and mob automatically breaks and comes and beats on you. All of my spells are adept 3 thanks to the hours I spent Tradeskilling before the nerf. Now I am broke but I have my spells bought through level 42. So, I may have an edge over others trying to take on mobs out of our league. My challange is to take on pairs of group mobs my level. I could I think except for one thing. They break root. I have learned that if I just hit with stun then cast root they stick well, and stay stuck till time on root runs out. But if I throw in a dot this seems to increase the chance of them breaking before time runs out. If I dont mind being slow I stun, root, root, root, stun, root, root, root etc. till it is dead. One problem is I run out of mana this way so I have to cannibalize and harvest. Both tend to break root. It seems to me that this is a bug. Maybe it is in there to specifically keep me from doing what I am doing which is kill big mobs. But I am maxed out wizard and even with much practice I prolly die enough it is not worth the risk. I am mostly doing it as a challange. The technique has come in handy on occasion when we get an add so I pull agro then root it away form combat for a while, but mostly it is just for entertainment to test what I can do. I have learned not to do it on casters they just stand there rooted and kill you with a few zaps. Plus if they are healers my damage can not keep up, I run out of man way too fast. But for taking out fighters or scouts it seems to be a good method. I was experimenting with a few blue^^ mobs testing the system and it seems that indeed harvest auto breaks the root and cannalize spells have a chance to break it. Any other thoughts of what breaks roots?

03-10-2005, 12:26 PM	#3
Renynz Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28	Damage breaks root. I've found that DD breaks it more frequently than DoTs, but any form of damage (either inflicted by you or another) has a chance to break it. Never tried to harvest while I had a mob rooted, but I would wager that it breaks because of the stun component.

03-10-2005, 11:15 PM	#5
Lady Uaelr General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 476	Stun> root> replensih mana>break root>die. Wizzards are great!!!

03-10-2005, 11:53 PM	#6
greenhor General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 100	I've stopped using HO's while soloing because the starter (even before i cast an actual damage spell) seems to break root ever single time. this just started happening the patch before this one and i wish they'd fix it. can't imagine that's intentional but then again who knows.

03-11-2005, 12:41 AM	#7
aa Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 24	Yes, the HO breaks root too, I stopped using HOs a while back because of this and forgot to include it in my original post. And I have considered that it could just be coincidence. But I have tested it too many times. You stun yourself the mob breaks root and attacks. The control setting was to take a mob and do nothing but stun and root and time how long it stays rooted. Each time I did this the mob stayed rooted the entire time. It would not break root unless I added some other spell. I think it is a bug that spells you cast on yourself break root