Paladin Guide

BoomJa · 11-26-2004, 12:16 AM

Guide last updated on January 17th, 2005.

**Added since last update**-Chapter 2 - Paladin Guide - Quests - Added Starfall Quest (Thanks Monaghan of Runnyeye ) -Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Moved Smite Prayer to its post-patch level of 36.-Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Added Shining Beacon to Spell / Ability List (Level 20.6)-Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Updated cast, cool down and concentration numbers on most 30+ spells/abilities.

A quick reminder that the following guides are also there for your Paladin perusing pleasure on the site that hosts my Paladin guide, EQ2.TenTonHammer.com .

-Tweaking Your Display Settings-Heroic Opportunities Guide-City Writs Guide-Must Know Tips-and for those Evil types who want to be Paladins, Betraying your City Guides. Thanks to everyone who is contributing and reading the guide. It makes the time spent so much more worthwhile!--Original Message Below--Hello folks,I have been putting together what is turning out to be a very long guide to being a Paladin. I will post the introduction and Table of Contents below. If you have time to contribute I know that every up and coming Paladin would appreciate it. If they don't appreciate it, then some lessons in Paladin etiquette are in order aren't they? =)The guide is posted at: http://eq2.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=12&meid=53I have asked the guys to setup forums, which I linked in the guide so that we easily communicate new information to be added. I also put my own personal e-mail address in there just in case some of you Paladin types are too bashful to post in the forum, but want to contribute. The guide is in HTML, so jumping between sections is pretty easy. ---start Introduction Blurb---"All Paladin. All The Time."The Definitive Paladin GuideSo you want to be a holy warrior? Things are not always as easy they could be for the those that fight for what is right and good. This guide was created, and is updated with the hope that it will help those that wish to follow the Path of the Paladin. I am hoping that message forums, setup by the guys at EQ2.TenTonHammer.com will act as a breeding ground for more content for this guide. Get in there and share your information! The forums are right at the bottom of the list, under get this, All Paladin. All The Time.

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BoomJa · 11-26-2004, 08:41 PM

The Guide has been updated:**Added since last update**Added explanation of Cast-Through Added 8.1 Your U.I. Setup Added info. to 10.0 Where to Hunt? Added info. to Method and Technique./bugged Knight's Stance. It does not appear to make a difference in the damage we take. **I can't seem to edit my original post to show the update, so I posted here. Mods, please let me know if there is a means for me to edit, or if this is the proper way to show the updates.**Thanks!

Dankster · 11-27-2004, 08:43 AM

Thanks for the site, keep up the great work :smileyhappy:

BoomJa · 11-27-2004, 09:02 AM

Dankster wrote:
Thanks for the site, keep up the great work :smileyhappy:

It's a labour of love. The Paladin is just so much fun to play. I'll keep the guide going even if nobody reads it but me. Thanks for the kind words.

Paladin776 · 11-28-2004, 07:52 PM

Just a minor correction and a additional info for you.

When you mention Caltorsis Knights, they can also be found near Fangbreaker Keep, located to the east above Windstalker Village.

Giant Kodiaks are found north of Fangbreaker and east of Windstalker.

jef · 11-28-2004, 08:05 PM

Thanks for the guide, it's nice work. One thing atm. I think you really need to explicitly state who to get the Paladin quest from: Delacar Mithanson in North Qeynos.

BoomJa · 11-28-2004, 10:14 PM

Paladin776 wrote:
Just a minor correction and a additional info for you.

When you mention Caltorsis Knights, they can also be found near Fangbreaker Keep, located to the east above Windstalker Village.

Giant Kodiaks are found north of Fangbreaker and east of Windstalker.

Super!Thank you! I have made the correction and addition. It will be in the next update. Thanks again!

Kriterian · 11-29-2004, 02:28 AM

Here is updated information for your guide on the armor quests:

All of the quests are named "Ian's Forgetfull Family - Part ___", so part two is "Ian's Forgetful Family - Part II"

Armor quest 5 is located in Thundering Steppes:

Kill 10 corpse feeders (located in the dry river bed)

Kill sabertooth looters (can't remember exact number, in crater at Qeynos Tower 1 near Antonica zone in)

Kill 10 (again can't remember exact number) unearthed settlers (these can be found by the docks on other side of hill)

Reward = Hearth Forged Greaves (Stats can be found on my web page but I'll post better ones when I get home from work).

Armor quest 6 is also located in Thundering Steppes:

Kill 10 drowned troopers (these are out near the burned out forest close to Qeynos tower 4)

Kill (12 I think) centaur hunters (these spawn every 10 minutes at Qeynos tower 4 in a group, you get one or two hunters in the group) they also roam behind the tower but are much more rare and all the centaurs are placeholders.

Kill the named giant Ott Stompgutt (I don't have the exact location but it's fairly close to Qeynos Tower 4, there is a valley leading towards a bridge that is filled with giants. 3 giants spawn at the entrance of the valley so clear those first. When you walk into the valley and get near the rock Ott automatically spawns along with two bear guards. He was yellow at 22 (I think he's 24 with two up arrows). Make sure you have a good group with two healers, he was fairly tough. NOTE: Adding people from a second group to form a raid makes the encounter trivial and it doesn't count. Has to be done with one group only.

Reward is heart forged breastplate which I don't have the stats for at the moment.

Also, part IV quest for the shoulders requires level 22 to wear them. Part V quest for the leggings requires level 23 to wear and part VI for the breastplate requires level 24 to wear.

I wish I could be more detailed but after completing the quests I can't see exactly how many I had to kill hehe.

Message Edited by Kriterian on 11-28-2004 01:35 PM

Kriterian · 11-29-2004, 03:29 AM

I just thought of something else that would be useful in the guide. Since spells are different in EQ2 and some area effect spells only affect the encounter it would be useful to know the following:

Which spells/abilities hit every mob around the paladin, whether part of the encounter or not? I know assault hits everything in the area.

Which spells/abilities hit only the mobs in the encounter and are safe to use around other non-encounter mobs? I know Cry of Conviction only hits encounter based mobs, not everything in the area.

Which spells/abilities don't hit or wake up mezz'd mobs? I know the taunts don't wake them up.

I'll try and test later but I rarely have an enchanter in my group and when I do it's not wise to wake up the mezz'd mobs hehe.

BoomJa · 11-29-2004, 04:26 AM

Kriterian wrote:
Here is updated information for your guide on the armor quests:

All of the quests are named "Ian's Forgetfull Family - Part ___", so part two is "Ian's Forgetful Family - Part II"

Armor quest 5 is located in Thundering Steppes:

Kill 10 corpse feeders (located in the dry river bed)

Kill sabertooth looters (can't remember exact number, in crater at Qeynos Tower 1 near Antonica zone in)

Kill 10 (again can't remember exact number) unearthed settlers (these can be found by the docks on other side of hill)

Reward = Hearth Forged Greaves (Stats can be found on my web page but I'll post better ones when I get home from work).

Armor quest 6 is also located in Thundering Steppes:

Kill 10 drowned troopers (these are out near the burned out forest close to Qeynos tower 4)

Kill (12 I think) centaur hunters (these spawn every 10 minutes at Qeynos tower 4 in a group, you get one or two hunters in the group) they also roam behind the tower but are much more rare and all the centaurs are placeholders.

Kill the named giant Ott Stompgutt (I don't have the exact location but it's fairly close to Qeynos Tower 4, there is a valley leading towards a bridge that is filled with giants. 3 giants spawn at the entrance of the valley so clear those first. When you walk into the valley and get near the rock Ott automatically spawns along with two bear guards. He was yellow at 22 (I think he's 24 with two up arrows). Make sure you have a good group with two healers, he was fairly tough. NOTE: Adding people from a second group to form a raid makes the encounter trivial and it doesn't count. Has to be done with one group only.

Reward is heart forged breastplate which I don't have the stats for at the moment.

Also, part IV quest for the shoulders requires level 22 to wear them. Part V quest for the leggings requires level 23 to wear and part VI for the breastplate requires level 24 to wear.

I wish I could be more detailed but after completing the quests I can't see exactly how many I had to kill hehe.
Message Edited by Kriterian on 11-28-2004 01:35 PM

Thank you!Adding this information now. Very useful stuff!

BoomJa · 11-29-2004, 04:44 AM

Kriterian wrote:
I just thought of something else that would be useful in the guide. Since spells are different in EQ2 and some area effect spells only affect the encounter it would be useful to know the following:

Which spells/abilities hit every mob around the paladin, whether part of the encounter or not? I know assault hits everything in the area.

Which spells/abilities hit only the mobs in the encounter and are safe to use around other non-encounter mobs? I know Cry of Conviction only hits encounter based mobs, not everything in the area.

Which spells/abilities don't hit or wake up mezz'd mobs? I know the taunts don't wake them up.

I'll try and test later but I rarely have an enchanter in my group and when I do it's not wise to wake up the mezz'd mobs hehe.

This would be good to know. As I test them out I will add them. I added the three you mentioned. They will appear in the next update. Thanks again!

Kriterian · 11-29-2004, 11:17 AM

Here are all the items from the armor quest, I'll give all the in game stats since the players website seems to be wrong.

All pieces are attunable / no trade

Armor quest 1: Hearth Forged Gloves (AC 82 (92 at level 25) +2 agi, +5 wis, +11 health, +13 power, +84 disease, +67 heat)

Armor quest 2: Hearth Forged Bracer (AC 122 (143 at level 26) +5 int, +2 str, +13 health, +12 power, +67 divine, +84 poison)

Armor quest 3: Hearth Forged Boots (AC 82 (92 at level 27) +3 sta, +5 agi, +11 health, +16 power, +84 magic, +67 mental)

Armor quest 4: Hearth Forged Spaulders (AC 122 (154 at level 2 SMILEY

+2 sta, +6 wis, +13 health, +16 power, +84 cold, +67 heat)

Armor quest 5: Hearth Forged Greaves (AC 122 (160 at level 29) +5 int, +4 str, +13 health, +17 power, +101 cold, +67 poison)

Armor quest 6: Hearth Forged Breastplate (AC 204 (276 at level 30) +4 agi, +5 str, +18 health, +14 power, +84 disease, +84 magic)

They are all heavy armor, and all pieces weigh 4.0 each

BoomJa · 11-29-2004, 09:54 PM

Kriterian wrote:
Here are all the items from the armor quest, I'll give all the in game stats since the players website seems to be wrong.

All pieces are attunable / no trade

Armor quest 1: Hearth Forged Gloves (AC 82 (92 at level 25) +2 agi, +5 wis, +11 health, +13 power, +84 disease, +67 heat)

Armor quest 2: Hearth Forged Bracer (AC 122 (143 at level 26) +5 int, +2 str, +13 health, +12 power, +67 divine, +84 poison)

Armor quest 3: Hearth Forged Boots (AC 82 (92 at level 27) +3 sta, +5 agi, +11 health, +16 power, +84 magic, +67 mental)

Armor quest 4: Hearth Forged Spaulders (AC 122 (154 at level 2 +2 sta, +6 wis, +13 health, +16 power, +84 cold, +67 heat)

Armor quest 5: Hearth Forged Greaves (AC 122 (160 at level 29) +5 int, +4 str, +13 health, +17 power, +101 cold, +67 poison)

Armor quest 6: Hearth Forged Breastplate (AC 204 (276 at level 30) +4 agi, +5 str, +18 health, +14 power, +84 disease, +84 magic)

They are all heavy armor, and all pieces weigh 4.0 each

Got it!Thank you! Added and credited. It will be in the next update.

Glott · 11-30-2004, 09:43 PM

What is this spell you are writing about in your guide, BoomJack:

"At level 13 you get your DD spell, which is great for pulling. Not only can you now pull from distance, but the damage makes the baddies hate you, which is the whole point of you being the Main Tank or MT."

I'm a lvl 17 crusader and dont see this spell anywhere.

BoomJa · 11-30-2004, 09:50 PM

Glottis wrote:
What is this spell you are writing about in your guide, BoomJack:
"At level 13 you get your DD spell, which is great for pulling. Not only can you now pull from distance, but the damage makes the baddies hate you, which is the whole point of you being the Main Tank or MT."

I'm a lvl 17 crusader and dont see this spell anywhere.

Righteous Anger is the name. For some reason it doesn't pop into the hotbar for many people. Load it, love it, live it! =)

Glott · 11-30-2004, 09:54 PM

Thanks for the fast reply, I was about to edit my post because i found out it's a ranged spell o.O

It's says NOTHING about it's range in the spell description.

BoomJa · 11-30-2004, 10:09 PM

Glottis wrote:
Thanks for the fast reply, I was about to edit my post because i found out it's a ranged spell o.O

It's says NOTHING about it's range in the spell description.

The spell descriptions are a bit off sometimes. For you, the biggest non-intuitive spell related piece of information I can think of is that your ward, Demonstration of Faith, generates big aggro. I use it as the first spell cast on a pull, ahead of even Inflame. The mobs will stick to you, and if your group acts appropriately they will stay there the whole fight if you do keep hitting Inflame when it lights. All the best!

kazekaje · 12-02-2004, 02:19 AM

Grouping as an Off-TankAn off-tank is a fighter class that is not currently playing the role of main tank. Paladins were built, in my humble opinion, to be the best off-tank there is.As an off-tank, your job is to watch for mobs that are attacking anyone BUT the main tank. The second you see a group member taking a beating you need to peel that mob from them by warding them, taunting it, and getting it focused on you by any means necessary.Your secondary job is to make the main tank stronger, and this is where we shine. You can ward the main tank, give them your AC, give them Vigor of Trust, etc., all which make them a stronger front line of defense.

Don't mean to be difficult, but in my experience the best bet for an offtank is to avoid taking aggro -- if aggro flip-flops, it's handy to have only your main tank trying to get Aggro back because he's going to be the closest one to the top of the mobs hate list Ideally.The healing/buffing and damaging role of the paladin makes us wicked offtanks too SMILEY

But after playing EQ1 for long time, I've been of the opinion that it's best to just let the MainTank worry about aggro, and have everyone focus on getting the MainAssist's mob dead as fast as possible. ~Slissik, unrest

Message Edited by kazekaje on 12-01-2004 01:20 PM

BoomJa · 12-02-2004, 02:32 AM

kazekaje wrote:
Grouping as an Off-TankAn off-tank is a fighter class that is not currently playing the role of main tank. Paladins were built, in my humble opinion, to be the best off-tank there is.As an off-tank, your job is to watch for mobs that are attacking anyone BUT the main tank. The second you see a group member taking a beating you need to peel that mob from them by warding them, taunting it, and getting it focused on you by any means necessary.Your secondary job is to make the main tank stronger, and this is where we shine. You can ward the main tank, give them your AC, give them Vigor of Trust, etc., all which make them a stronger front line of defense.
Don't mean to be difficult, but in my experience the best bet for an offtank is to avoid taking aggro -- if aggro flip-flops, it's handy to have only your main tank trying to get Aggro back because he's going to be the closest one to the top of the mobs hate list Ideally.The healing/buffing and damaging role of the paladin makes us wicked offtanks too But after playing EQ1 for long time, I've been of the opinion that it's best to just let the MainTank worry about aggro, and have everyone focus on getting the MainAssist's mob dead as fast as possible. ~Slissik, unrest
Message Edited by kazekaje on 12-01-2004 01:20 PM

I wasn't very clear. In situations where there is more than one mob, the off tank should be picking up the mobs that break onto groupmembers that are NOT the main target.

BoomJa · 12-07-2004, 01:10 AM

**Guide Updated December 6th, 2004****Added since last update**2500+ Paladins a day now visit the guide. Thank you for your support and continued contributions! Added more information to Ian's Forgetful Family VI Quest [Thanks Kelvin of Toxxulia]Added more information to Blessing of the Penitent (level 24 spell) Added Thunderous Steppes Giants to Where to Hunt Levels 20 - 30. [Thanks Kebia of Oggok] Added more information to Holy Steed (Level 20 Spell), regarding it's speed, look and cost. Added Info. to grouping as an off-tank. Added info to Method and Technique regarding holding aggro. Is your healer dying? Read this.A Templar Guide, not written by me of course... has also been added to the site.

Reev · 12-07-2004, 01:15 AM

Wanted to say nice guide, I used it often during AQ20 thank you, look forward to future updates, and thanks for taking the time to share such valuable info. SMILEY

BoomJa · 12-07-2004, 10:09 PM

Reevah wrote:
Wanted to say nice guide, I used it often during AQ20 thank you, look forward to future updates, and thanks for taking the time to share such valuable info.

Thank you kindly! On that note!!!**Guide Updated December 7th, 2004****Added since last update**-2500+ Paladins a day now visit the guide. Thank you for your support and continued contributions! -Put Spell / Skill List into an easier to read table.-Added Power Cost, Cast Time and Recast time to Spell / Skill list for spells up to level 25 (my current level) Higher level Paladins I need your help to fill in the rest, including screenshots of the icons.-Added Intervene to the Spell / Skill list. -Fixed an error in Cry of Conviction description.

Rol · 12-07-2004, 11:23 PM

Great stuff.One thing I discovered the other night was that I could inflame and shout while moving. It might be nice to metnion this in the spell listings.Rolie

Rumblebore · 12-08-2004, 01:09 AM

Just a minor point.

On your chart, you have Knights Stance set at 0 Concentration. If memory serves, it takes 3 or 4 concentration to maintain that buff.

BoomJa · 12-08-2004, 02:26 AM

Rolie and Rumblecore,Thanks and thanks!Fixed on both counts. I had the right number for KS in my notes, but typoed it while copy pasting the tables I guess. Thanks!!

Kalvarin · 12-08-2004, 03:41 AM

Additional info. [Thanks to Kelvin of Toxx ] ** For the bonesplitter quest requirement, you have to kill undead until one of the undead RANDOMLY triggers the bonesplitter quest requirement. You may get the bonesplitter on the first unearthly settler you kill or it may be the 482nd. Generally, everybody has gotten it from killing settlers because they are the easiest undead to kill. My guild was frustrated because we killed about 150 settlers before we got credit. I've heard of other folks who got credit in the first 5 they killed. **

You need to be level 24 to equip this item.

You have that listed under AQVI, and I believe it should be the last part of AQ V ?

BoomJa · 12-08-2004, 04:15 AM

Fixed!My thanks... cut and paste will be the death of me!

BoomJa · 12-09-2004, 10:08 PM

**Guide Updated December 9th, 2004****Added since last update**-Broke the guide into more manageable and readable parts. -Fixed Knight's Stance Concentration Cost [Thanks Rumblebore] -Added Info. to Shout and Inflame. [Thanks Rolie]-Info. that I incorrectly posted as part of Armour Quest VI has been moved to its proper place in Armour Quest V [Thanks Kalvarin] -Added a Guide to Hunting in Vermin Snye (Solo 18-20) [Many Thanks to Standish of Oggok] -Added Targeting and mob selection as the Main Assist to Chapter 6 - Paladin Guide - Technique - U.I.-** Added fancy pants forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page. **

BoomJa · 12-13-2004, 09:05 PM

**Guide Updated December 13th, 2004****Added since last update**Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:19-22 [ Thanks Dankster ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 22-23 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Dankster ]Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Grouped: 20-28 [Thanks Xodius]**Forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide are now up. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page. **

BoomJa · 12-15-2004, 09:01 PM

Guide Updated December 15th, 2004

**Added since last update**

Added information to Chapter 2 - Paladin Guide - Quests (Specifically to the AQ6 quest)

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:9-10 [ Thanks Hieronymus ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:10-11 [ Thanks Hieronymus ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:19-22 [ Thanks Dankster ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 22-23 [Thanks Anon ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Anon ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Dankster ]

Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Grouped: 20-28 [Thanks Xodius]

**Forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide are now up. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page. **

11-27-2004, 09:02 AM	#4
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Dankster wrote: Thanks for the site, keep up the great work :smileyhappy: It's a labour of love. The Paladin is just so much fun to play. I'll keep the guide going even if nobody reads it but me. Thanks for the kind words.

11-28-2004, 07:52 PM	#5
Paladin776 Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri Posts: 501	Just a minor correction and a additional info for you. When you mention Caltorsis Knights, they can also be found near Fangbreaker Keep, located to the east above Windstalker Village. Giant Kodiaks are found north of Fangbreaker and east of Windstalker. __________________

11-28-2004, 08:05 PM	#6
jef Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	Thanks for the guide, it's nice work. One thing atm. I think you really need to explicitly state who to get the Paladin quest from: Delacar Mithanson in North Qeynos. __________________ Circle of 3 - Good and Evil in the same guild. We are recruiting all classes for our Light and Dark guilds. Tell us you're interested, click on logo.

11-28-2004, 10:14 PM	#7
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Paladin776 wrote: Just a minor correction and a additional info for you. When you mention Caltorsis Knights, they can also be found near Fangbreaker Keep, located to the east above Windstalker Village. Giant Kodiaks are found north of Fangbreaker and east of Windstalker. Super!Thank you! I have made the correction and addition. It will be in the next update. Thanks again!

11-29-2004, 02:28 AM	#8
Kriterian Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	Here is updated information for your guide on the armor quests: All of the quests are named "Ian's Forgetfull Family - Part ___", so part two is "Ian's Forgetful Family - Part II" Armor quest 5 is located in Thundering Steppes: Kill 10 corpse feeders (located in the dry river bed) Kill sabertooth looters (can't remember exact number, in crater at Qeynos Tower 1 near Antonica zone in) Kill 10 (again can't remember exact number) unearthed settlers (these can be found by the docks on other side of hill) Reward = Hearth Forged Greaves (Stats can be found on my web page but I'll post better ones when I get home from work). Armor quest 6 is also located in Thundering Steppes: Kill 10 drowned troopers (these are out near the burned out forest close to Qeynos tower 4) Kill (12 I think) centaur hunters (these spawn every 10 minutes at Qeynos tower 4 in a group, you get one or two hunters in the group) they also roam behind the tower but are much more rare and all the centaurs are placeholders. Kill the named giant Ott Stompgutt (I don't have the exact location but it's fairly close to Qeynos Tower 4, there is a valley leading towards a bridge that is filled with giants. 3 giants spawn at the entrance of the valley so clear those first. When you walk into the valley and get near the rock Ott automatically spawns along with two bear guards. He was yellow at 22 (I think he's 24 with two up arrows). Make sure you have a good group with two healers, he was fairly tough. NOTE: Adding people from a second group to form a raid makes the encounter trivial and it doesn't count. Has to be done with one group only. Reward is heart forged breastplate which I don't have the stats for at the moment. Also, part IV quest for the shoulders requires level 22 to wear them. Part V quest for the leggings requires level 23 to wear and part VI for the breastplate requires level 24 to wear. I wish I could be more detailed but after completing the quests I can't see exactly how many I had to kill hehe. Message Edited by Kriterian on 11-28-2004 01:35 PM __________________ ---======}}::::+ Kaleb (Unrest Server) +::::{{======---- "Let me be clear that whether I respond in a thread or not is not an indication of whether myself or the team has read the thread or talked about the issue internally." -- Moorgard

11-26-2004, 12:16 AM	#1
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Guide last updated on January 17th, 2005. Added since last update-Chapter 2 - Paladin Guide - Quests - Added Starfall Quest (Thanks Monaghan of Runnyeye ) -Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Moved Smite Prayer to its post-patch level of 36.-Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Added Shining Beacon to Spell / Ability List (Level 20.6)-Chapter 5 - Paladin Guide - Skill / Spell List - Updated cast, cool down and concentration numbers on most 30+ spells/abilities. A quick reminder that the following guides are also there for your Paladin perusing pleasure on the site that hosts my Paladin guide, EQ2.TenTonHammer.com . -Tweaking Your Display Settings-Heroic Opportunities Guide-City Writs Guide-Must Know Tips-and for those Evil types who want to be Paladins, Betraying your City Guides. Thanks to everyone who is contributing and reading the guide. It makes the time spent so much more worthwhile!--Original Message Below--Hello folks,I have been putting together what is turning out to be a very long guide to being a Paladin. I will post the introduction and Table of Contents below. If you have time to contribute I know that every up and coming Paladin would appreciate it. If they don't appreciate it, then some lessons in Paladin etiquette are in order aren't they? =)The guide is posted at: http://eq2.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=12&meid=53I have asked the guys to setup forums, which I linked in the guide so that we easily communicate new information to be added. I also put my own personal e-mail address in there just in case some of you Paladin types are too bashful to post in the forum, but want to contribute. The guide is in HTML, so jumping between sections is pretty easy. ---start Introduction Blurb---"All Paladin. All The Time."The Definitive Paladin GuideSo you want to be a holy warrior? Things are not always as easy they could be for the those that fight for what is right and good. This guide was created, and is updated with the hope that it will help those that wish to follow the Path of the Paladin. I am hoping that message forums, setup by the guys at EQ2.TenTonHammer.com will act as a breeding ground for more content for this guide. Get in there and share your information! The forums are right at the bottom of the list, under get this, All Paladin. All The Time. Message Edited by BoomJack on 12-20-2004 11:20 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 12-27-2004 07:33 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 12-29-2004 08:53 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 12-31-2004 08:10 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 01-03-2005 08:44 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 01-06-2005 08:12 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 01-11-2005 08:16 AM Message Edited by BoomJack on 01-17-2005 06:56 AM

11-26-2004, 08:41 PM	#2
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	The Guide has been updated:Added since last updateAdded explanation of Cast-Through Added 8.1 Your U.I. Setup Added info. to 10.0 Where to Hunt? Added info. to Method and Technique./bugged Knight's Stance. It does not appear to make a difference in the damage we take. I can't seem to edit my original post to show the update, so I posted here. Mods, please let me know if there is a means for me to edit, or if this is the proper way to show the updates.Thanks!

11-27-2004, 08:43 AM	#3
Dankster Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	Thanks for the site, keep up the great work :smileyhappy:

11-29-2004, 03:29 AM	#9
Kriterian Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	I just thought of something else that would be useful in the guide. Since spells are different in EQ2 and some area effect spells only affect the encounter it would be useful to know the following: Which spells/abilities hit every mob around the paladin, whether part of the encounter or not? I know assault hits everything in the area. Which spells/abilities hit only the mobs in the encounter and are safe to use around other non-encounter mobs? I know Cry of Conviction only hits encounter based mobs, not everything in the area. Which spells/abilities don't hit or wake up mezz'd mobs? I know the taunts don't wake them up. I'll try and test later but I rarely have an enchanter in my group and when I do it's not wise to wake up the mezz'd mobs hehe. __________________ ---======}}::::+ Kaleb (Unrest Server) +::::{{======---- "Let me be clear that whether I respond in a thread or not is not an indication of whether myself or the team has read the thread or talked about the issue internally." -- Moorgard

11-29-2004, 04:26 AM	#10
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Kriterian wrote: Here is updated information for your guide on the armor quests: All of the quests are named "Ian's Forgetfull Family - Part ___", so part two is "Ian's Forgetful Family - Part II" Armor quest 5 is located in Thundering Steppes: Kill 10 corpse feeders (located in the dry river bed) Kill sabertooth looters (can't remember exact number, in crater at Qeynos Tower 1 near Antonica zone in) Kill 10 (again can't remember exact number) unearthed settlers (these can be found by the docks on other side of hill) Reward = Hearth Forged Greaves (Stats can be found on my web page but I'll post better ones when I get home from work). Armor quest 6 is also located in Thundering Steppes: Kill 10 drowned troopers (these are out near the burned out forest close to Qeynos tower 4) Kill (12 I think) centaur hunters (these spawn every 10 minutes at Qeynos tower 4 in a group, you get one or two hunters in the group) they also roam behind the tower but are much more rare and all the centaurs are placeholders. Kill the named giant Ott Stompgutt (I don't have the exact location but it's fairly close to Qeynos Tower 4, there is a valley leading towards a bridge that is filled with giants. 3 giants spawn at the entrance of the valley so clear those first. When you walk into the valley and get near the rock Ott automatically spawns along with two bear guards. He was yellow at 22 (I think he's 24 with two up arrows). Make sure you have a good group with two healers, he was fairly tough. NOTE: Adding people from a second group to form a raid makes the encounter trivial and it doesn't count. Has to be done with one group only. Reward is heart forged breastplate which I don't have the stats for at the moment. Also, part IV quest for the shoulders requires level 22 to wear them. Part V quest for the leggings requires level 23 to wear and part VI for the breastplate requires level 24 to wear. I wish I could be more detailed but after completing the quests I can't see exactly how many I had to kill hehe. Message Edited by Kriterian on 11-28-2004 01:35 PM Thank you!Adding this information now. Very useful stuff!

11-29-2004, 04:44 AM	#11
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Kriterian wrote: I just thought of something else that would be useful in the guide. Since spells are different in EQ2 and some area effect spells only affect the encounter it would be useful to know the following: Which spells/abilities hit every mob around the paladin, whether part of the encounter or not? I know assault hits everything in the area. Which spells/abilities hit only the mobs in the encounter and are safe to use around other non-encounter mobs? I know Cry of Conviction only hits encounter based mobs, not everything in the area. Which spells/abilities don't hit or wake up mezz'd mobs? I know the taunts don't wake them up. I'll try and test later but I rarely have an enchanter in my group and when I do it's not wise to wake up the mezz'd mobs hehe. This would be good to know. As I test them out I will add them. I added the three you mentioned. They will appear in the next update. Thanks again!

11-29-2004, 11:17 AM	#12
Kriterian Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 87	Here are all the items from the armor quest, I'll give all the in game stats since the players website seems to be wrong. All pieces are attunable / no trade Armor quest 1: Hearth Forged Gloves (AC 82 (92 at level 25) +2 agi, +5 wis, +11 health, +13 power, +84 disease, +67 heat) Armor quest 2: Hearth Forged Bracer (AC 122 (143 at level 26) +5 int, +2 str, +13 health, +12 power, +67 divine, +84 poison) Armor quest 3: Hearth Forged Boots (AC 82 (92 at level 27) +3 sta, +5 agi, +11 health, +16 power, +84 magic, +67 mental) Armor quest 4: Hearth Forged Spaulders (AC 122 (154 at level 2 +2 sta, +6 wis, +13 health, +16 power, +84 cold, +67 heat) Armor quest 5: Hearth Forged Greaves (AC 122 (160 at level 29) +5 int, +4 str, +13 health, +17 power, +101 cold, +67 poison) Armor quest 6: Hearth Forged Breastplate (AC 204 (276 at level 30) +4 agi, +5 str, +18 health, +14 power, +84 disease, +84 magic) They are all heavy armor, and all pieces weigh 4.0 each __________________ ---======}}::::+ Kaleb (Unrest Server) +::::{{======---- "Let me be clear that whether I respond in a thread or not is not an indication of whether myself or the team has read the thread or talked about the issue internally." -- Moorgard

11-29-2004, 09:54 PM	#13
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Kriterian wrote: Here are all the items from the armor quest, I'll give all the in game stats since the players website seems to be wrong. All pieces are attunable / no trade Armor quest 1: Hearth Forged Gloves (AC 82 (92 at level 25) +2 agi, +5 wis, +11 health, +13 power, +84 disease, +67 heat) Armor quest 2: Hearth Forged Bracer (AC 122 (143 at level 26) +5 int, +2 str, +13 health, +12 power, +67 divine, +84 poison) Armor quest 3: Hearth Forged Boots (AC 82 (92 at level 27) +3 sta, +5 agi, +11 health, +16 power, +84 magic, +67 mental) Armor quest 4: Hearth Forged Spaulders (AC 122 (154 at level 2 +2 sta, +6 wis, +13 health, +16 power, +84 cold, +67 heat) Armor quest 5: Hearth Forged Greaves (AC 122 (160 at level 29) +5 int, +4 str, +13 health, +17 power, +101 cold, +67 poison) Armor quest 6: Hearth Forged Breastplate (AC 204 (276 at level 30) +4 agi, +5 str, +18 health, +14 power, +84 disease, +84 magic) They are all heavy armor, and all pieces weigh 4.0 each Got it!Thank you! Added and credited. It will be in the next update.

11-30-2004, 09:43 PM	#14
Glott Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	What is this spell you are writing about in your guide, BoomJack: "At level 13 you get your DD spell, which is great for pulling. Not only can you now pull from distance, but the damage makes the baddies hate you, which is the whole point of you being the Main Tank or MT." I'm a lvl 17 crusader and dont see this spell anywhere.

11-30-2004, 09:50 PM	#15
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Glottis wrote: What is this spell you are writing about in your guide, BoomJack: "At level 13 you get your DD spell, which is great for pulling. Not only can you now pull from distance, but the damage makes the baddies hate you, which is the whole point of you being the Main Tank or MT." I'm a lvl 17 crusader and dont see this spell anywhere. Righteous Anger is the name. For some reason it doesn't pop into the hotbar for many people. Load it, love it, live it! =)

11-30-2004, 09:54 PM	#16
Glott Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Thanks for the fast reply, I was about to edit my post because i found out it's a ranged spell o.O It's says NOTHING about it's range in the spell description.

11-30-2004, 10:09 PM	#17
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Glottis wrote: Thanks for the fast reply, I was about to edit my post because i found out it's a ranged spell o.O It's says NOTHING about it's range in the spell description. The spell descriptions are a bit off sometimes. For you, the biggest non-intuitive spell related piece of information I can think of is that your ward, Demonstration of Faith, generates big aggro. I use it as the first spell cast on a pull, ahead of even Inflame. The mobs will stick to you, and if your group acts appropriately they will stay there the whole fight if you do keep hitting Inflame when it lights. All the best!

12-02-2004, 02:19 AM	#18
kazekaje Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Grouping as an Off-TankAn off-tank is a fighter class that is not currently playing the role of main tank. Paladins were built, in my humble opinion, to be the best off-tank there is.As an off-tank, your job is to watch for mobs that are attacking anyone BUT the main tank. The second you see a group member taking a beating you need to peel that mob from them by warding them, taunting it, and getting it focused on you by any means necessary.Your secondary job is to make the main tank stronger, and this is where we shine. You can ward the main tank, give them your AC, give them Vigor of Trust, etc., all which make them a stronger front line of defense. Don't mean to be difficult, but in my experience the best bet for an offtank is to avoid taking aggro -- if aggro flip-flops, it's handy to have only your main tank trying to get Aggro back because he's going to be the closest one to the top of the mobs hate list Ideally.The healing/buffing and damaging role of the paladin makes us wicked offtanks too But after playing EQ1 for long time, I've been of the opinion that it's best to just let the MainTank worry about aggro, and have everyone focus on getting the MainAssist's mob dead as fast as possible. ~Slissik, unrest Message Edited by kazekaje on 12-01-2004 01:20 PM

12-02-2004, 02:32 AM	#19
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	kazekaje wrote: Grouping as an Off-TankAn off-tank is a fighter class that is not currently playing the role of main tank. Paladins were built, in my humble opinion, to be the best off-tank there is.As an off-tank, your job is to watch for mobs that are attacking anyone BUT the main tank. The second you see a group member taking a beating you need to peel that mob from them by warding them, taunting it, and getting it focused on you by any means necessary.Your secondary job is to make the main tank stronger, and this is where we shine. You can ward the main tank, give them your AC, give them Vigor of Trust, etc., all which make them a stronger front line of defense. Don't mean to be difficult, but in my experience the best bet for an offtank is to avoid taking aggro -- if aggro flip-flops, it's handy to have only your main tank trying to get Aggro back because he's going to be the closest one to the top of the mobs hate list Ideally.The healing/buffing and damaging role of the paladin makes us wicked offtanks too But after playing EQ1 for long time, I've been of the opinion that it's best to just let the MainTank worry about aggro, and have everyone focus on getting the MainAssist's mob dead as fast as possible. ~Slissik, unrest Message Edited by kazekaje on 12-01-2004 01:20 PM I wasn't very clear. In situations where there is more than one mob, the off tank should be picking up the mobs that break onto groupmembers that are NOT the main target.

12-07-2004, 01:10 AM	#20
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Guide Updated December 6th, 2004Added since last update2500+ Paladins a day now visit the guide. Thank you for your support and continued contributions! Added more information to Ian's Forgetful Family VI Quest [Thanks Kelvin of Toxxulia]Added more information to Blessing of the Penitent (level 24 spell) Added Thunderous Steppes Giants to Where to Hunt Levels 20 - 30. [Thanks Kebia of Oggok] Added more information to Holy Steed (Level 20 Spell), regarding it's speed, look and cost. Added Info. to grouping as an off-tank. Added info to Method and Technique regarding holding aggro. Is your healer dying? Read this.A Templar Guide, not written by me of course... has also been added to the site.

12-07-2004, 01:15 AM	#21
Reev Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 78	Wanted to say nice guide, I used it often during AQ20 thank you, look forward to future updates, and thanks for taking the time to share such valuable info.

12-07-2004, 10:09 PM	#22
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Reevah wrote: Wanted to say nice guide, I used it often during AQ20 thank you, look forward to future updates, and thanks for taking the time to share such valuable info. Thank you kindly! On that note!!!Guide Updated December 7th, 2004Added since last update-2500+ Paladins a day now visit the guide. Thank you for your support and continued contributions! -Put Spell / Skill List into an easier to read table.-Added Power Cost, Cast Time and Recast time to Spell / Skill list for spells up to level 25 (my current level) Higher level Paladins I need your help to fill in the rest, including screenshots of the icons.-Added Intervene to the Spell / Skill list. -Fixed an error in Cry of Conviction description.

12-07-2004, 11:23 PM	#23
Rol Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3	Great stuff.One thing I discovered the other night was that I could inflame and shout while moving. It might be nice to metnion this in the spell listings.Rolie

12-08-2004, 01:09 AM	#24
Rumblebore Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 9	Just a minor point. On your chart, you have Knights Stance set at 0 Concentration. If memory serves, it takes 3 or 4 concentration to maintain that buff. __________________

12-08-2004, 02:26 AM	#25
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Rolie and Rumblecore,Thanks and thanks!Fixed on both counts. I had the right number for KS in my notes, but typoed it while copy pasting the tables I guess. Thanks!!

12-08-2004, 03:41 AM	#26
Kalvarin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 22	Additional info. [Thanks to Kelvin of Toxx ] For the bonesplitter quest requirement, you have to kill undead until one of the undead RANDOMLY triggers the bonesplitter quest requirement. You may get the bonesplitter on the first unearthly settler you kill or it may be the 482nd. Generally, everybody has gotten it from killing settlers because they are the easiest undead to kill. My guild was frustrated because we killed about 150 settlers before we got credit. I've heard of other folks who got credit in the first 5 they killed. You need to be level 24 to equip this item. You have that listed under AQVI, and I believe it should be the last part of AQ V ? __________________

12-08-2004, 04:15 AM	#27
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Fixed!My thanks... cut and paste will be the death of me!

12-09-2004, 10:08 PM	#28
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Guide Updated December 9th, 2004Added since last update-Broke the guide into more manageable and readable parts. -Fixed Knight's Stance Concentration Cost [Thanks Rumblebore] -Added Info. to Shout and Inflame. [Thanks Rolie]-Info. that I incorrectly posted as part of Armour Quest VI has been moved to its proper place in Armour Quest V [Thanks Kalvarin] -Added a Guide to Hunting in Vermin Snye (Solo 18-20) [Many Thanks to Standish of Oggok] -Added Targeting and mob selection as the Main Assist to Chapter 6 - Paladin Guide - Technique - U.I.- Added fancy pants forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page.

12-13-2004, 09:05 PM	#29
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Guide Updated December 13th, 2004Added since last updateAdded information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:19-22 [ Thanks Dankster ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 22-23 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Dankster ]Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Grouped: 20-28 [Thanks Xodius]Forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide are now up. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page.

12-15-2004, 09:01 PM	#30
BoomJa Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 89	Guide Updated December 15th, 2004 Added since last update Added information to Chapter 2 - Paladin Guide - Quests (Specifically to the AQ6 quest) Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:9-10 [ Thanks Hieronymus ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:10-11 [ Thanks Hieronymus ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo:19-22 [ Thanks Dankster ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 22-23 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Anon ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Solo: 24-25 [Thanks Dankster ] Added information to Chapter 7 - Paladin Guide - Where To Hunt? Grouped: 20-28 [Thanks Xodius] Forums dedicated to each chapter of the guide are now up. Get in there and register to reserve your name. The "First Post!" could be yours! The forums are linked at the top of their respective chapters and at the top of this page.