What 2Hd Slashers are you using? Just player made?

Neko · 03-13-2005, 10:32 PM

I am starting a Paladin and have not seen too much about specifically mentioned about 2hd slashers.

Are there 2hd slasher equivalents to Dwarven Sword, Weakened Ghoulbande, etc?

Thanks.

Araknar · 03-14-2005, 04:13 AM

Its a lot higher lvl but 2hand slasher= (Electrified) Bone Bladed Claymore. awesome weapon but need lvl 40 to start the quest for it, i would tell u more about it buts theres tons of posts that talk through getting it if you look.

Steelle

Kithicor

Wurm · 03-14-2005, 03:50 PM

Neko wrote:

I am starting a Paladin and have not seen too much about specifically mentioned about 2hd slashers.

Are there 2hd slasher equivalents to Dwarven Sword, Weakened Ghoulbande, etc?

Thanks.

Soulreaver is a great 2 handed sword.

Deathspell · 03-15-2005, 05:11 PM

For starting Paladins I think a pristine forged carbonite [Removed for Content] sword is the best 2H-choice.

lisasdarr · 03-15-2005, 05:27 PM

Wurm wrote:

Soulreaver is a great 2 handed sword.

I'd agree, this is probably the best two handed sword to use as a new paladin, better than any crafted i have looked at (though not by much in some cases)

I regularly check the broker and have not found anything better.

Tears_ · 03-15-2005, 05:42 PM

Im really gona get flamed... well i think i will.... but ive been in so many groups lately with alts where a paladin or guardian thinks their roll is "damage" and they proudly flash around a rather large sword, is it just me ?Aside from that, my pally has a 1H+Shield... and a 2H in the backpack to use when im not main tank SMILEY

prisoner · 03-15-2005, 06:08 PM

I generally stick with crafted weapons. I'm at the "mid-level" part of the game and feyiron stuff suits me nicely and was fairly affordable. Though I hope to one day have my ghoulbane finished and perhaps give that claymore quest a try.

I wont get into a 1h vs 2h argument really. Using both work fine. Tank or not, there is nothing that says we shouldn't dish out a little damage as well. Mitigation is based off two things I'd say. How many hits you can take from the mob, and how fast you can kill it. Pick one and it balances out for the most part.

Deathspell · 03-15-2005, 06:45 PM

I thought Soulreaver was a 25+ 2H-sword?Starting Paladins are 20+ in my book SMILEY

Anyway, doesn't matter, hehe, but where does the soulreaver drop?I heard in Vermin's Snye, but I'm not sure.Does it drop from named ones or will any mob do?

JanuHu · 03-15-2005, 08:30 PM

I prefer claymores to greatswords myself, though I'm experimenting with greatswords when I can. I also stick to player crafted swords unless I find something absolutely extraordinary in loot. So far, only the Ghoulbane one hander has impressed me at all.

GilfalasElaandrin · 03-15-2005, 10:21 PM

Tears_UK wrote:
Im really gona get flamed... well i think i will.... but ive been in so many groups lately with alts where a paladin or guardian thinks their roll is "damage" and they proudly flash around a rather large sword, is it just me ?

Aside from that, my pally has a 1H+Shield... and a 2H in the backpack to use when im not main tank

Well if you have actually LOOKED at the damage we do in Everquest II you would see that Paladins are damage dealers in this game. Heavy damage as a matter of fact. We are one of the better DPS classes in game. If you look you'll note our healing power is significantly less than it was in EQ 1, but balanced enough in EQ 2 to stil be quite usefull. Also we do not have the range of stuns we had in EQ 1, replacd with various monir but usefull buffs for group and other tanks. SOE actually made us a decent DPS class. Anyone still stuck in the mindset from EQ 1 that we aren't is not realising how different this game is.

Now, that said, your still correct in that fact that as a main tank you should be using a 1H and shield, as shields add a VERY large amount of avoidance AC and significantly help tanking. But when your an assist tank definately whip out that two hander and let 'er rip.

Do NOT underestimate the damage SK's and Paladins do in EQ 2. Aside from tanking, our class descriptions show us as heavy damage dealers and we ARE.

As for weaponry, the best 2H sword you can get for 20-30 is a Pristine Forged Steel Greatsword, Claymore or [Removed for Content] Sword, which are the player made rare weapons. They easily blow away all other 2handers I have seen including Giantslayer, Soulreaver and the Dwarven Greasword of Cleansing but have the drawback of being rare and EXTREMELY pricey unless you get luck and forage the steel cluster yourself.

To start at 20 as a Paladin your quest weapon is actually very decent until 23 if I remember right and give the way it advances it is better than carbonite for that period. But once it goes white you will want to replace it if at all possible.

Soulvreaver is a drop of a name mob in Vermin's Snye I beleive (possibly the Soulreaver itself). Dwarven Greatsword of Cleansing is a reward for the Firemyst Gully instanced zone event and Giantslayer is (I THINK ) a quest reward from somewhere near Thundermist village but I am in no way certain on that.

Barring those, yes the pristine forged carbonite greatsword, claymore or bastatrd swords are all very good choices. Given how SOE balanced all the waepons in all tiers the damage ANY weapon does is pretty even within a tier. Meaning most all two handers do the same damage over time, even though they vary in exact base speed and damage per weapon. Greatswords are slower, claymores are faster but greatswords hit harder and claymores hitlighter. The average over time is nearly identical so use what you like.

Message Edited by GilfalasElaandrin on 03-15-2005 11:29 AM

lisasdarr · 03-16-2005, 12:30 AM

Soulreaver is a below:

It drops off the Vermin Snye NPC called: Zerak, the bloodsaber ritualist

He is a fairly tough 19 mob, but a decenet group of 19's should be able to take him

Doylen · 03-21-2005, 10:42 PM

I use Electrified Bone Bladed Claymore at level 50 and I STRONGLY suggest every paladin to get this when they can. It is an awesome sword and at level 50 I can do around 200 damage most hits and with a 5% chans of doing an extra 111 damage from the proc. The quest it self is not too hard but it's expensive if you buy the ebon. And it has to be an EBON CLUSTER not an ancient ebon sword (The Drops) has to be the cluster. And also. When you forge the hilt with the ebon cluster you loose your city citizenship till you have killed 1000 undeads. Since I have a guild hall I was afraid I would lose the house because of that but I can tell people that wonders that that does not happen. You do not lose your house when you lose citizenship for this quest. //Xander of Blackburrow

Xentin · 03-22-2005, 10:45 AM

For level 20 I would definately get the soulreaver if you can, if not a pristine carbonite 2h. At low lvls you dont need a shield, you can hold aggro just as good with a 2hander if not better and you will be dealing a lot more damage compared to a whole what like 3% avoidance off a kite shield? I used player made weapons until lvl 37 or 38 i forget which when you can use the Mercenary Great Sword, its the best 2hander I have found besides some of the new loot weapons i dont know much about until you can get the (E)BBC.

Dwergux · 03-22-2005, 12:52 PM

Since the last patch I'm wielding the Shiny Brass Halberd SMILEY

Dewfi · 03-22-2005, 09:19 PM

yea I use my SBH now as my 2-H weapon now! SMILEY

Oh, and Ghoulbane is a 1hand weapon for the poster above that listed it in the 2h catagory. But up till now I was using playermade claymores and at 20 you get a 2h sword for your Paladin quest anyhow SMILEY

Vathranen · 03-23-2005, 06:42 PM

When you finish Operation Greenhood, be sure you go back to the Glademaster and give him a holler. He'll give you a very nice reward. I was using the 1h sword (Stonepine Blade) for a long time (quite a bit better than Weakened Ghoulbane), but another choice is Mammoth which I just bought as my 2h. It's very cool looking and yellow at 40.

I think the Halberd might be better but I sold mine a long time ago SMILEY

Deathspell · 03-23-2005, 08:46 PM

I just found Soulreaver 2-Hander and it's blue at Lvl 25. It has almost the same stats as pristine forged carbonite [Removed for Content] sword, but it does more overall damage AND it looks way more cool SMILEY

It's a slender and stylish sword SMILEY

Dimgroth · 03-23-2005, 09:19 PM

at around level 21, either go to fallen gate and do the quest (from the dark elf outside the gate) or buy from freeport market or freeport black market for around 5 gold, the Twisted [Removed for Content] Sword, is an amazing two hander, best damage to delay ratio for 2hander till mid 30s, the icon is amazing looking..unfortunately the actual sword looks like a cabonite [Removed for Content] sword, but that's how SOE does armor and weapon and shield graphics, lots of the same, so not suprised. Still looks decent though.

GilfalasElaandrin · 03-25-2005, 10:30 PM

Never forget the rare player made items, now more than ever since you can imbue them with some amazing procs.

Example:

A Twisted [Removed for Content] Sword

Damage: 36-107, Delay 1.9, Int +4, Agil +3, Str +4, Health +27, Power +21, Wisdom +3

pristine forged steel [Removed for Content] sword

Damage: 38-115, Delay 1.9, In +4, Agil +4, Str +3, Health +26, Power +28, Wisdom +4

The player made is clearly better with more damage comparable stats and 6 more in total power & Health. Plus if you get the player made imbued you can get a nice proc that hits for 75-150 damage as well.

Even if you just get a common player made pristine, you can still get it imbued and that is not that expensive to do over all.

Valca · 03-26-2005, 01:30 AM

I use a Mess Sergeant Cleaver. It is a fabled 2h axe with a damage rating of 55.1 and a process. While I have traditionally been a 1h+shield paladin, the damage output on the cleaver is too much to pass up except on the most difficult of fights.

03-14-2005, 03:50 PM	#3
Wurm Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,003	Neko wrote: I am starting a Paladin and have not seen too much about specifically mentioned about 2hd slashers. Are there 2hd slasher equivalents to Dwarven Sword, Weakened Ghoulbande, etc? Thanks. Soulreaver is a great 2 handed sword. __________________

03-15-2005, 05:27 PM	#5
lisasdarr Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 186	Wurm wrote: Soulreaver is a great 2 handed sword. I'd agree, this is probably the best two handed sword to use as a new paladin, better than any crafted i have looked at (though not by much in some cases) I regularly check the broker and have not found anything better. __________________

03-15-2005, 05:42 PM	#6
Tears_ Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 60	Im really gona get flamed... well i think i will.... but ive been in so many groups lately with alts where a paladin or guardian thinks their roll is "damage" and they proudly flash around a rather large sword, is it just me ?Aside from that, my pally has a 1H+Shield... and a 2H in the backpack to use when im not main tank __________________

03-15-2005, 06:45 PM	#8
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	I thought Soulreaver was a 25+ 2H-sword?Starting Paladins are 20+ in my book Anyway, doesn't matter, hehe, but where does the soulreaver drop?I heard in Vermin's Snye, but I'm not sure.Does it drop from named ones or will any mob do?

03-15-2005, 10:21 PM	#10
GilfalasElaandrin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 318	Tears_UK wrote: Im really gona get flamed... well i think i will.... but ive been in so many groups lately with alts where a paladin or guardian thinks their roll is "damage" and they proudly flash around a rather large sword, is it just me ? Aside from that, my pally has a 1H+Shield... and a 2H in the backpack to use when im not main tank Well if you have actually LOOKED at the damage we do in Everquest II you would see that Paladins are damage dealers in this game. Heavy damage as a matter of fact. We are one of the better DPS classes in game. If you look you'll note our healing power is significantly less than it was in EQ 1, but balanced enough in EQ 2 to stil be quite usefull. Also we do not have the range of stuns we had in EQ 1, replacd with various monir but usefull buffs for group and other tanks. SOE actually made us a decent DPS class. Anyone still stuck in the mindset from EQ 1 that we aren't is not realising how different this game is. Now, that said, your still correct in that fact that as a main tank you should be using a 1H and shield, as shields add a VERY large amount of avoidance AC and significantly help tanking. But when your an assist tank definately whip out that two hander and let 'er rip. Do NOT underestimate the damage SK's and Paladins do in EQ 2. Aside from tanking, our class descriptions show us as heavy damage dealers and we ARE. As for weaponry, the best 2H sword you can get for 20-30 is a Pristine Forged Steel Greatsword, Claymore or [Removed for Content] Sword, which are the player made rare weapons. They easily blow away all other 2handers I have seen including Giantslayer, Soulreaver and the Dwarven Greasword of Cleansing but have the drawback of being rare and EXTREMELY pricey unless you get luck and forage the steel cluster yourself. To start at 20 as a Paladin your quest weapon is actually very decent until 23 if I remember right and give the way it advances it is better than carbonite for that period. But once it goes white you will want to replace it if at all possible. Soulvreaver is a drop of a name mob in Vermin's Snye I beleive (possibly the Soulreaver itself). Dwarven Greatsword of Cleansing is a reward for the Firemyst Gully instanced zone event and Giantslayer is (I THINK ) a quest reward from somewhere near Thundermist village but I am in no way certain on that. Barring those, yes the pristine forged carbonite greatsword, claymore or bastatrd swords are all very good choices. Given how SOE balanced all the waepons in all tiers the damage ANY weapon does is pretty even within a tier. Meaning most all two handers do the same damage over time, even though they vary in exact base speed and damage per weapon. Greatswords are slower, claymores are faster but greatswords hit harder and claymores hitlighter. The average over time is nearly identical so use what you like. Message Edited by GilfalasElaandrin on 03-15-2005 11:29 AM __________________

03-13-2005, 10:32 PM	#1
Neko Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 96	I am starting a Paladin and have not seen too much about specifically mentioned about 2hd slashers. Are there 2hd slasher equivalents to Dwarven Sword, Weakened Ghoulbande, etc? Thanks.

03-14-2005, 04:13 AM	#2
Araknar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 67	Its a lot higher lvl but 2hand slasher= (Electrified) Bone Bladed Claymore. awesome weapon but need lvl 40 to start the quest for it, i would tell u more about it buts theres tons of posts that talk through getting it if you look. Steelle Kithicor

03-15-2005, 05:11 PM	#4
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	For starting Paladins I think a pristine forged carbonite [Removed for Content] sword is the best 2H-choice.

03-15-2005, 06:08 PM	#7
prisoner General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 213	I generally stick with crafted weapons. I'm at the "mid-level" part of the game and feyiron stuff suits me nicely and was fairly affordable. Though I hope to one day have my ghoulbane finished and perhaps give that claymore quest a try. I wont get into a 1h vs 2h argument really. Using both work fine. Tank or not, there is nothing that says we shouldn't dish out a little damage as well. Mitigation is based off two things I'd say. How many hits you can take from the mob, and how fast you can kill it. Pick one and it balances out for the most part.

03-15-2005, 08:30 PM	#9
JanuHu Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 38	I prefer claymores to greatswords myself, though I'm experimenting with greatswords when I can. I also stick to player crafted swords unless I find something absolutely extraordinary in loot. So far, only the Ghoulbane one hander has impressed me at all.

03-16-2005, 12:30 AM	#11
lisasdarr Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 186	Soulreaver is a below: It drops off the Vermin Snye NPC called: Zerak, the bloodsaber ritualist He is a fairly tough 19 mob, but a decenet group of 19's should be able to take him __________________

03-21-2005, 10:42 PM	#12
Doylen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 40	I use Electrified Bone Bladed Claymore at level 50 and I STRONGLY suggest every paladin to get this when they can. It is an awesome sword and at level 50 I can do around 200 damage most hits and with a 5% chans of doing an extra 111 damage from the proc. The quest it self is not too hard but it's expensive if you buy the ebon. And it has to be an EBON CLUSTER not an ancient ebon sword (The Drops) has to be the cluster. And also. When you forge the hilt with the ebon cluster you loose your city citizenship till you have killed 1000 undeads. Since I have a guild hall I was afraid I would lose the house because of that but I can tell people that wonders that that does not happen. You do not lose your house when you lose citizenship for this quest. //Xander of Blackburrow

03-22-2005, 10:45 AM	#13
Xentin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 69	For level 20 I would definately get the soulreaver if you can, if not a pristine carbonite 2h. At low lvls you dont need a shield, you can hold aggro just as good with a 2hander if not better and you will be dealing a lot more damage compared to a whole what like 3% avoidance off a kite shield? I used player made weapons until lvl 37 or 38 i forget which when you can use the Mercenary Great Sword, its the best 2hander I have found besides some of the new loot weapons i dont know much about until you can get the (E)BBC. __________________

03-22-2005, 12:52 PM	#14
Dwergux Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 353	Since the last patch I'm wielding the Shiny Brass Halberd __________________

03-22-2005, 09:19 PM	#15
Dewfi Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 16	yea I use my SBH now as my 2-H weapon now! Oh, and Ghoulbane is a 1hand weapon for the poster above that listed it in the 2h catagory. But up till now I was using playermade claymores and at 20 you get a 2h sword for your Paladin quest anyhow __________________ __________________________ Dewfire -Gnome Paladin - Everfrost Adventurers Local 212 Co-Leader "And fire shall descend from the heavens like dew in the morn to cleanse the lands of evil!" -Dewfire

03-23-2005, 06:42 PM	#16
Vathranen Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 110	When you finish Operation Greenhood, be sure you go back to the Glademaster and give him a holler. He'll give you a very nice reward. I was using the 1h sword (Stonepine Blade) for a long time (quite a bit better than Weakened Ghoulbane), but another choice is Mammoth which I just bought as my 2h. It's very cool looking and yellow at 40. I think the Halberd might be better but I sold mine a long time ago

03-23-2005, 08:46 PM	#17
Deathspell Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 727	I just found Soulreaver 2-Hander and it's blue at Lvl 25. It has almost the same stats as pristine forged carbonite [Removed for Content] sword, but it does more overall damage AND it looks way more cool It's a slender and stylish sword

03-23-2005, 09:19 PM	#18
Dimgroth Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 214	at around level 21, either go to fallen gate and do the quest (from the dark elf outside the gate) or buy from freeport market or freeport black market for around 5 gold, the Twisted [Removed for Content] Sword, is an amazing two hander, best damage to delay ratio for 2hander till mid 30s, the icon is amazing looking..unfortunately the actual sword looks like a cabonite [Removed for Content] sword, but that's how SOE does armor and weapon and shield graphics, lots of the same, so not suprised. Still looks decent though. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------- Nothing can stop me now, cause I dont care, anymore..

03-25-2005, 10:30 PM	#19
GilfalasElaandrin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 318	Never forget the rare player made items, now more than ever since you can imbue them with some amazing procs. Example: A Twisted [Removed for Content] Sword Damage: 36-107, Delay 1.9, Int +4, Agil +3, Str +4, Health +27, Power +21, Wisdom +3 pristine forged steel [Removed for Content] sword Damage: 38-115, Delay 1.9, In +4, Agil +4, Str +3, Health +26, Power +28, Wisdom +4 The player made is clearly better with more damage comparable stats and 6 more in total power & Health. Plus if you get the player made imbued you can get a nice proc that hits for 75-150 damage as well. Even if you just get a common player made pristine, you can still get it imbued and that is not that expensive to do over all. __________________

03-26-2005, 01:30 AM	#20
Valca Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	I use a Mess Sergeant Cleaver. It is a fabled 2h axe with a damage rating of 55.1 and a process. While I have traditionally been a 1h+shield paladin, the damage output on the cleaver is too much to pass up except on the most difficult of fights.