Which AA tree are you going?

jrisley69 · 02-25-2006, 12:28 PM

i admit, i havent been playing a bruiser class as long as most of you, he is only lvl 35. My main is a 61 ranger which i've played since day 1. The bruiser has been on and off. With recent changes i've been playing him a lot more now. I'm wondering which AA tree do you guys feel is the best. I've been looking at it, and most people will say str or agi, but i've noticed that the INT tree seems to have the better passive arts and combat arts. I'm very interested in the 75% chance to critical, passive on the last slot of the INT tree. is that like a 75% chance to proc a critical hit? if so, that would be awesome as far as dps goes. and the other parts increase parry and melee critical chances as well, along with a combat art that turns the mob around from you, in a way like a stun cuz, if he isnt facing you, he cant hit you, right? (melee-wise). What is your opinion? would really appreciate it.

DarkMirrax · 02-25-2006, 01:46 PM

Agree the int line looks good with the % to crits i must admit i want to put a point into it , though the swooping crane etc 2 hander attack etc look good too .......side note has anyone seen grizzefangs staff the reward for grizzlefangs quest in KoS , OMG 50 STA , 50 STR , 175 Health and a proc on it !!! i want it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sarsippi · 02-25-2006, 02:08 PM

The str line looks useless to me, except the final one, but I wouldnt spend 24 points just for the final one.

Wisdom might be my favorite. Being able to hit mutiple mobs more often is a plus to me. Nice taunt for a class that doesnt really have a good way to control agro with a group of mobs.

The crits for int do look nice also. But being you gotta raise int, it just feels like im wasting 4 AA's.

Agility and stamina do have some decent ones also that I wouldnt mind getting.

I have 4 AA's now, 3 saved, and I have no idea what tree I want to go down yet, lol.

Bewts · 02-25-2006, 08:18 PM

If the barehanded can keep up with a 90+ dmg rating 2hb then I might go STR/INT Otherwise I'll likely go WIS/INT because Tsunami and Crane Flock will be soooo fun to play with. I havent decided what to do with the few remaining points I'd have left over from the WIS/INT line. Either throw them into STR or pump up my pathetic raw INT numbers.

sarsippi · 02-26-2006, 02:43 AM

INT really does nothing for us. It would be a waste to put points into it /just/ for int. If you want something in that tree then its a different story, heh.

I started on the stamina line last night. That procs looks ok, but I think I'll stop at that one, then go to another tree.

Raidi Sovin'faile · 02-26-2006, 03:50 AM

Personally, I'm going Wisdom 4/8/8, and Int 4/4/8/5/8.

I'm going for the two AoE abilities, maxed out of course, and the Melee crit, parry, and crit boost/mitigation increase when down on health. WIth maxed out Melee Crit, Eagle Strike's 75% and the natural base chance, you'd probably hit 100% chance to crit!

Dangerous, but it's nice that you get that 1k mitigation. I've been thinking of how I could possibly stack our health for mitigation and my wife's warden regens to keep me safe but below 30%. Should be an interesting experience.

By the way, I'm really only looking at this with regards to grouping. Obviously you wouldn't want to sit at 30% on raids, and I feel that nearly all of our abilities aren't really going to help us on raids except the Feign ability. Since I'm not a huge raider, and we have better equiped folks to tank on raids, I'd like to try and get some fancy stuff for my normal grouping.

Message Edited by Raidi Sovin'faile on 02-25-200604:52 PM

ShinmaRyche · 02-26-2006, 06:58 AM

Str 8/0/0/0/0

Agi 8/0/0/0/0

Stam 8/1/0/0/0

Wis 4/4/4/5/8

Int 0/0/0/0/0

Atleast until the AAs change again...

Quicksilver74 · 02-27-2006, 06:30 PM

Currently working on Stamina, just hit lvl 10 and got the axtra attack. at lvl 1 it's 3% for about 125 extra damage and at lvl 2 it will be 6%. Doing that math, it should be 24% at lvl 8, which will be a nice damage dealer, pretty much the same samage as Quarrel would do... one of our highest dps arts. the Stamina Debuff is nice also, as we only have one debuff otherwise. Extra Deflection is always great, and though I could survive without Mantis Leap, I'll admit it's a fantastic ability.

However... if I ever manage to Max AA's, I might respec to put all into STR. People seem upset with the bare handed fighting line, but the abilities on it are incredible! If you totally max your STR line I bet you can do spectacular DPS.

galadizz · 02-27-2006, 07:51 PM

we can use it while fighting? i thought it was only ranged attack....so whats up with this spell? while dualwield frighting you let out a proc?

Danter · 02-27-2006, 08:40 PM

Going STA line, too, but stopping after deflection...then probably going INT.

None of the end abilities seem like they're worth the 8 points in my opinion.

-Kald, 62 Bruiser Permafrost

DarkMirrax · 02-27-2006, 08:52 PM

Wisdom 4/8/8

Int 4/4/8/5/8 for me for sure :smileywink: i like aoe

WaachBack · 02-27-2006, 09:21 PM

Im spending 24 into STA. I don't know where the other 24 is going though. :smileytongue:

Message Edited by WaachBack on 02-27-200602:30 PM

Sphiriah · 02-27-2006, 10:15 PM

I think i'll be going:

STR 0-0-0-0-0AGI 4-4-4-4-8STA 0-0-0-0-0WIS 0-0-0-0-0INT 4-4-5-4-8

The last agility one seems great for duoing.

Teche · 02-27-2006, 10:45 PM

Int and Sta most likely.. Im doing Int right now. I was giddy like a girl when I found out everclenching gaunts worked with eagle spin.. I was dreading having to swtich out stuff.

Quicksilver74 · 02-28-2006, 08:55 PM

Danterus wrote:
Going STA line, too, but stopping after deflection...then probably going INT.
None of the end abilities seem like they're worth the 8 points in my opinion.
-Kald, 62 Bruiser Permafrost

Good point.... though I suspect that Mantis leap MIGHT be worth it for certain people. Imagine being in the arena and some ranger is up on a tower shooting arrows at you.... Sure you can use sonic fists on him.... but that ends up putting you back down. I love the idea of teleporting to a mob 40 meters away and staying there.

Sahmmael · 02-28-2006, 09:11 PM

Idiotic question: I just got KoS and dinged 20 - How do I put XP/points into the AAs?

Quicksilver74 · 02-28-2006, 09:18 PM

after 20, you will recieve AA exp automatically. You don't have to do anything.

Location discoveries will give you AA points, Killed named mobs will.... the 1st time you loot certain items, (IE Guidl Status Loot, antique souvenier treasures), collection quests, and other quests will give you AA exp. once you ding an AA level, you can hit "L" and go to achievements and click on a point.

TheSummoned · 03-01-2006, 05:56 AM

Atm I'm looking at: Sta 4/4/8, Wis 4/4/8, Int 4/4/8. Think this setup will yield good dps.

Xeronoth · 03-01-2006, 01:33 PM

my plan is to goAGI 8/4/8INT 4/4/8/4/8Anything else leftover will be pumped into STR/STA/WIS (Wis for Resistances, that being last to be pumped)

Sahmmael · 03-01-2006, 09:22 PM

If you max out the STR line, would/could there be any reason to keep a weapon at all? SMILEY Would you consistently do damage equal to having a weapon (either DW or 2H) or just when you use the available CAs?

I can't view the talents to see if they have the answers (stuck at work) but I'm following this topic closely.

Sassinak · 03-02-2006, 12:31 AM

I am trying the strength route, since the first respec is so cheap. I will let you know how it goes.I can say that already at level 59 with 5 AA, I am finding fists perform very well. My attack score is 350 higher with bare fists than with weapons equipped. This might have something to do with it.Keep in mind I am at the end of my tier, so fists may fall behind in the early 60's. But by then I should have some double-attack AA for fists, so who knows.

Quicksilver74 · 03-02-2006, 08:27 PM

TheSummoned wrote:Atm I'm looking at: Sta 4/4/8, Wis 4/4/8, Int 4/4/8. Think this setup will yield good dps.

I like that plan also. Currently up to STA 4/4/5 ..... Boy it's gonna take a long time to Max AA's! he he!

VeraIkonica · 03-04-2006, 02:26 AM

I am gonna attempt to make a tank out of my bruiser instead of dps and go STA and AGI my plan could fail horribly though.

Adewale · 03-04-2006, 02:42 AM

I play on a PVP server so I'm going STA line. That last spell is incredible for PVP.

Ma · 03-05-2006, 07:26 PM

How do you respec? I would like to try different things as well.

DarkMirrax · 03-06-2006, 01:56 PM

Maze wrote:How do you respec? I would like to try different things as well.

http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=14561

Here you go

Rontgen · 03-06-2006, 04:01 PM

I presume this particular respec can only be used once, or am I mistaken?Otherwise I plan on some variant of:STA - 4/4/8STR - 4/4/8INT - 4/4/8...though I'll have to give short shrift to one of these categories. I suppose I'll wait and see which third tier AA gives the most benefit before alloting my last few points. We'll see.....

Message Edited by Rontgen on 03-06-200603:09 AM

PhozFa · 03-06-2006, 08:08 PM

Rontgen wrote:
I presume this particular respec can only be used once, or am I mistaken?

FAQs Are Your Friend

Radigazt · 03-16-2006, 09:22 PM

What is the final (ermm I mean current) AA lists for Bruisers? I know there was a thread where someone posted the pics of each power (including recast time etc.) for each power, but I can't seem to find it.

joe2sgirl · 03-16-2006, 09:43 PM

for me it'll beagi: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0sta: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0int: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0dont plan on gettin any of the final skills because they just dont seem to appealing for me raid wise... though there are a fwe kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] pvp ones! figure this'll give a nice boost in consistent DPS though when both duel wielding or usein 2h'ers (not to mention a nice lil boost in ranged also even if its not all that great)and any points i got left will go to raw sta boostsManiken~ (dont pay attention to sig SMILEY

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Message Edited by joe2sgirl on 03-16-200608:44 AM

02-25-2006, 01:46 PM	#2
DarkMirrax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,238	Agree the int line looks good with the % to crits i must admit i want to put a point into it , though the swooping crane etc 2 hander attack etc look good too .......side note has anyone seen grizzefangs staff the reward for grizzlefangs quest in KoS , OMG 50 STA , 50 STR , 175 Health and a proc on it !!! i want it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Q - Named and epics get + to hit which makes avoidance tanking suck. A- Yes they do, and yes it does =========================== Steve Danuser, a.k.a. Moorgard Game Designer, EverQuest II ... Whats Amazing Reflexes ?? ....... ===========================

02-26-2006, 06:58 AM	#7
ShinmaRyche Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 211	Str 8/0/0/0/0 Agi 8/0/0/0/0 Stam 8/1/0/0/0 Wis 4/4/4/5/8 Int 0/0/0/0/0 Atleast until the AAs change again... __________________ Xitium, 80 Bruiser - Blackburrow New sig inc, eventually.

02-27-2006, 08:52 PM	#11
DarkMirrax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,238	Wisdom 4/8/8 Int 4/4/8/5/8 for me for sure :smileywink: i like aoe __________________ Q - Named and epics get + to hit which makes avoidance tanking suck. A- Yes they do, and yes it does =========================== Steve Danuser, a.k.a. Moorgard Game Designer, EverQuest II ... Whats Amazing Reflexes ?? ....... ===========================

02-27-2006, 09:21 PM	#12
WaachBack Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 228	Im spending 24 into STA. I don't know where the other 24 is going though. :smileytongue: Message Edited by WaachBack on 02-27-200602:30 PM __________________

02-27-2006, 10:45 PM	#14
Teche Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 115	Int and Sta most likely.. Im doing Int right now. I was giddy like a girl when I found out everclenching gaunts worked with eagle spin.. I was dreading having to swtich out stuff. __________________ Phenom

02-25-2006, 12:28 PM	#1
jrisley69 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Unrest Posts: 60	i admit, i havent been playing a bruiser class as long as most of you, he is only lvl 35. My main is a 61 ranger which i've played since day 1. The bruiser has been on and off. With recent changes i've been playing him a lot more now. I'm wondering which AA tree do you guys feel is the best. I've been looking at it, and most people will say str or agi, but i've noticed that the INT tree seems to have the better passive arts and combat arts. I'm very interested in the 75% chance to critical, passive on the last slot of the INT tree. is that like a 75% chance to proc a critical hit? if so, that would be awesome as far as dps goes. and the other parts increase parry and melee critical chances as well, along with a combat art that turns the mob around from you, in a way like a stun cuz, if he isnt facing you, he cant hit you, right? (melee-wise). What is your opinion? would really appreciate it.

02-25-2006, 02:08 PM	#3
sarsippi Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 34	The str line looks useless to me, except the final one, but I wouldnt spend 24 points just for the final one. Wisdom might be my favorite. Being able to hit mutiple mobs more often is a plus to me. Nice taunt for a class that doesnt really have a good way to control agro with a group of mobs. The crits for int do look nice also. But being you gotta raise int, it just feels like im wasting 4 AA's. Agility and stamina do have some decent ones also that I wouldnt mind getting. I have 4 AA's now, 3 saved, and I have no idea what tree I want to go down yet, lol.

02-25-2006, 08:18 PM	#4
Bewts Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 323	If the barehanded can keep up with a 90+ dmg rating 2hb then I might go STR/INT Otherwise I'll likely go WIS/INT because Tsunami and Crane Flock will be soooo fun to play with. I havent decided what to do with the few remaining points I'd have left over from the WIS/INT line. Either throw them into STR or pump up my pathetic raw INT numbers.

02-26-2006, 02:43 AM	#5
sarsippi Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 34	INT really does nothing for us. It would be a waste to put points into it /just/ for int. If you want something in that tree then its a different story, heh. I started on the stamina line last night. That procs looks ok, but I think I'll stop at that one, then go to another tree.

02-26-2006, 03:50 AM	#6
Raidi Sovin'faile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,320	Personally, I'm going Wisdom 4/8/8, and Int 4/4/8/5/8. I'm going for the two AoE abilities, maxed out of course, and the Melee crit, parry, and crit boost/mitigation increase when down on health. WIth maxed out Melee Crit, Eagle Strike's 75% and the natural base chance, you'd probably hit 100% chance to crit! Dangerous, but it's nice that you get that 1k mitigation. I've been thinking of how I could possibly stack our health for mitigation and my wife's warden regens to keep me safe but below 30%. Should be an interesting experience. By the way, I'm really only looking at this with regards to grouping. Obviously you wouldn't want to sit at 30% on raids, and I feel that nearly all of our abilities aren't really going to help us on raids except the Feign ability. Since I'm not a huge raider, and we have better equiped folks to tank on raids, I'd like to try and get some fancy stuff for my normal grouping. Message Edited by Raidi Sovin'faile on 02-25-200604:52 PM

02-27-2006, 06:30 PM	#8
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Currently working on Stamina, just hit lvl 10 and got the axtra attack. at lvl 1 it's 3% for about 125 extra damage and at lvl 2 it will be 6%. Doing that math, it should be 24% at lvl 8, which will be a nice damage dealer, pretty much the same samage as Quarrel would do... one of our highest dps arts. the Stamina Debuff is nice also, as we only have one debuff otherwise. Extra Deflection is always great, and though I could survive without Mantis Leap, I'll admit it's a fantastic ability. However... if I ever manage to Max AA's, I might respec to put all into STR. People seem upset with the bare handed fighting line, but the abilities on it are incredible! If you totally max your STR line I bet you can do spectacular DPS.

02-27-2006, 07:51 PM	#9
galadizz Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 39	we can use it while fighting? i thought it was only ranged attack....so whats up with this spell? while dualwield frighting you let out a proc?

02-27-2006, 08:40 PM	#10
Danter General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 321	Going STA line, too, but stopping after deflection...then probably going INT. None of the end abilities seem like they're worth the 8 points in my opinion. -Kald, 62 Bruiser Permafrost

02-27-2006, 10:15 PM	#13
Sphiriah Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 473	I think i'll be going: STR 0-0-0-0-0AGI 4-4-4-4-8STA 0-0-0-0-0WIS 0-0-0-0-0INT 4-4-5-4-8 The last agility one seems great for duoing.

02-28-2006, 08:55 PM	#15
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	Danterus wrote: Going STA line, too, but stopping after deflection...then probably going INT. None of the end abilities seem like they're worth the 8 points in my opinion. -Kald, 62 Bruiser Permafrost Good point.... though I suspect that Mantis leap MIGHT be worth it for certain people. Imagine being in the arena and some ranger is up on a tower shooting arrows at you.... Sure you can use sonic fists on him.... but that ends up putting you back down. I love the idea of teleporting to a mob 40 meters away and staying there.

02-28-2006, 09:11 PM	#16
Sahmmael Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 31	Idiotic question: I just got KoS and dinged 20 - How do I put XP/points into the AAs? __________________ The harvesting harvester unable to harvest harvests.

02-28-2006, 09:18 PM	#17
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	after 20, you will recieve AA exp automatically. You don't have to do anything. Location discoveries will give you AA points, Killed named mobs will.... the 1st time you loot certain items, (IE Guidl Status Loot, antique souvenier treasures), collection quests, and other quests will give you AA exp. once you ding an AA level, you can hit "L" and go to achievements and click on a point.

03-01-2006, 05:56 AM	#18
TheSummoned Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 713	Atm I'm looking at: Sta 4/4/8, Wis 4/4/8, Int 4/4/8. Think this setup will yield good dps. __________________ __________________________ Yukia, Darathar's bruiser - Retired Ajeco, 70 Splitpaw bruiser - Retired Ezahia, dirge of Validus, Splitpaw

03-01-2006, 01:33 PM	#19
Xeronoth Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 50	my plan is to goAGI 8/4/8INT 4/4/8/4/8Anything else leftover will be pumped into STR/STA/WIS (Wis for Resistances, that being last to be pumped)

03-01-2006, 09:22 PM	#20
Sahmmael Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 31	If you max out the STR line, would/could there be any reason to keep a weapon at all? Would you consistently do damage equal to having a weapon (either DW or 2H) or just when you use the available CAs? I can't view the talents to see if they have the answers (stuck at work) but I'm following this topic closely. __________________ The harvesting harvester unable to harvest harvests.

03-02-2006, 12:31 AM	#21
Sassinak Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 557	I am trying the strength route, since the first respec is so cheap. I will let you know how it goes.I can say that already at level 59 with 5 AA, I am finding fists perform very well. My attack score is 350 higher with bare fists than with weapons equipped. This might have something to do with it.Keep in mind I am at the end of my tier, so fists may fall behind in the early 60's. But by then I should have some double-attack AA for fists, so who knows.

03-02-2006, 08:27 PM	#22
Quicksilver74 Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,640	TheSummoned wrote:Atm I'm looking at: Sta 4/4/8, Wis 4/4/8, Int 4/4/8. Think this setup will yield good dps. I like that plan also. Currently up to STA 4/4/5 ..... Boy it's gonna take a long time to Max AA's! he he!

03-04-2006, 02:26 AM	#23
VeraIkonica Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 94	I am gonna attempt to make a tank out of my bruiser instead of dps and go STA and AGI my plan could fail horribly though.

03-04-2006, 02:42 AM	#24
Adewale Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	I play on a PVP server so I'm going STA line. That last spell is incredible for PVP.

03-05-2006, 07:26 PM	#25
Ma Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4	How do you respec? I would like to try different things as well.

03-06-2006, 01:56 PM	#26
DarkMirrax Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,238	Maze wrote:How do you respec? I would like to try different things as well. http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=7&message.id=14561 Here you go __________________ Q - Named and epics get + to hit which makes avoidance tanking suck. A- Yes they do, and yes it does =========================== Steve Danuser, a.k.a. Moorgard Game Designer, EverQuest II ... Whats Amazing Reflexes ?? ....... ===========================

03-06-2006, 04:01 PM	#27
Rontgen Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 65	I presume this particular respec can only be used once, or am I mistaken?Otherwise I plan on some variant of:STA - 4/4/8STR - 4/4/8INT - 4/4/8...though I'll have to give short shrift to one of these categories. I suppose I'll wait and see which third tier AA gives the most benefit before alloting my last few points. We'll see..... Message Edited by Rontgen on 03-06-200603:09 AM __________________ http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4749/rontflex0fc.jpg

03-06-2006, 08:08 PM	#28
PhozFa General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Rontgen wrote: I presume this particular respec can only be used once, or am I mistaken? FAQs Are Your Friend __________________

03-16-2006, 09:22 PM	#29
Radigazt Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 491	What is the final (ermm I mean current) AA lists for Bruisers? I know there was a thread where someone posted the pics of each power (including recast time etc.) for each power, but I can't seem to find it.

03-16-2006, 09:43 PM	#30
joe2sgirl Lord Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 57	for me it'll beagi: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0sta: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0int: 4 - 4 - 8 - 0 - 0dont plan on gettin any of the final skills because they just dont seem to appealing for me raid wise... though there are a fwe kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] pvp ones! figure this'll give a nice boost in consistent DPS though when both duel wielding or usein 2h'ers (not to mention a nice lil boost in ranged also even if its not all that great)and any points i got left will go to raw sta boostsManiken~ (dont pay attention to sig ) Message Edited by joe2sgirl on 03-16-200608:44 AM __________________