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Unread 01-17-2006, 02:22 PM   #1
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I am a female Bruiser on antonia bayle,And, i'm having trouble with my RP style,I dont want to play a hardass, hardcore, kick you in the face type of girl,But, seemingly that is the root of the bruiser?Anyone able to think of a...softer?concept for a bruiser girl?!rescue me from my plight!
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Unread 01-17-2006, 02:52 PM   #2
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Well, it can depend on how you want to view Bruisers.
 
They can be the barbaric berzerk "smash 'em bash 'em" types. But they can also be the martial artist with a more rolling, straight forward, boxing style of combat.
 
My favorite example (in movies) of the differences I can see between a Monk martial artist and a Bruiser martial artist would be in that Jet Li movie, Fist of Legend. Where he basically starts doing the bobbing and weaving, constantly moving, shoulder rolling style more akin to boxing, but with martial art punches and kicks thrown in for attacks. When squared off against the almost clinically precise styles of the Monks, it practically screams Monk vs Bruiser.
 
So I see no problem with playing any "personality" type along with bruiser, if you play the martial arts in that method. Maybe foster a disdain for the "rigid and conforming" martial arts styles of the monk, as you prefer the more fluid and ever changing moves of the Bruiser.
 
 
Since you must be in an evil city, you can always play the cold or distant, normally calm personality that when push comes to shove.. well, lets just say you don't let yourself get pushed or shoved.
 
Or, you can be the fiery personality, quick to explode in action, but not anger. Always leaping into the next adventure, both fists and feet first!
 
 
The angry smash'em type doesn't have to be the only way to play it.. but emotion (once active) is definately a driving force behind the Bruiser. If you play the normally complacent type, then it will only accentuate your moments of furious action, if you want to play it that way.
 
Just remember, the class doesn't have to be "Hulk Smash".
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Unread 01-17-2006, 03:10 PM   #3
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Thanks for the help.Now, im just torn between my bruiser concept and my coercer concept =)
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Unread 01-17-2006, 03:45 PM   #4
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Unread 01-17-2006, 06:29 PM   #5
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Your a bartender at Coyote Ugly, and too many guys have pinched your butt.  now your gonna start a brawl!
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Unread 01-17-2006, 07:22 PM   #6
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i RP a man hating lesbian bruiser.. i love the in your face, get outta my way weak little man deal.  she loves to steal agro from the "hunky" guardian tank .. and throw it in his face that she can do it as good as the boys..and she hits on every hot elf she see's SMILEYI have 10 chars.. all with diff personalities.. lol
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Unread 01-18-2006, 04:05 AM   #8
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Don't let yourself be confined to a certain role just because the little box says "Class: Bruiser". I myself gave up on RP on AB a long time ago because people would tend to box me into corners just because I played a Dark Elf Inquisitor (a choice of race that I've regretted ever since). Just because I play an Inquisitor doesn't mean my character would like torturing people or is a religious fanatic. Indeed my inquisitor didn't believe in any gods at all, but thought like everyone else that the gods were dead. Using classes like Bruiser, Inquisitor, etc to label a character and assume they have a certain personality and act certain ways is called metagaming and it's a big no-no where most serious RP is concerned.Anyway, pick whatever type of character you want and ignore the "Class: Bruiser" tag at least for the moment.
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Unread 01-18-2006, 04:10 AM   #9
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Unread 01-18-2006, 06:16 AM   #10
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sorry, but.. i don't think so, you are what you choose, at least in some way.
A Bruiser may use some kind of hard kung fu(though i prefer fist of legend as a movie,the evil jet li from the one fits better then fist of legend jet li, or if we want to stay on this movie.. the evil guy at the end of fist of legend is the Bruiser, not jet li..) or something else from the eastern world, but it shouldn't be too soft.
 
You cant be a fireman if your afraid of fire and you cant be a soldier if you are not able to kill someone in some cases.
 
So an inquisitor dosen't have to torture people, but he must follow a religion and spread the teachings of this religions,well this far it is just a cleric, but where a Templar is peaceful, an Inquisitors accept no compromise in his believes and will push the doctrines of his relgion, almost like a fanatic.
So if you are a nice Inquisitor who accept all religions, or even has no own religion at all.. well you may pick Inquisitor, but you definitely roleplay something else.
 
Bruiser on the other hand are powerful thugs, they use raw physical power, transformed their body into weapons to inflict suffering.. and so on, they are just the plain opposite of "soft". A soft brusier would be nearly the same as an humble,kind-hearted Shadowknight..
You may choose to be a martial artist girl, no monk(ascetic life,tranquility...) which uses soft moves, avoid attacks with nifty moves and defeat her enemys with their own power or something like that.. but you shouldn't call your self a bruiser if you do so.You are "insert ingame name" ! ,not someone who bruises people into submission and  trains his own body ito become a living Juggernaut, a body as hard as steel and strong enough too crush someones scull in his bare hands.
 
 
That is just my point of view, my addvice(and here i agree to mokichan): don't try to play a bruiser, but pick the class (if nothing fits better) and just play yourself/your character
 
 
ps:since people may ask what you are.. pick your own class in RP, martial artist, Adept/Master of "insert random name" style or something like that
 
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Unread 01-18-2006, 07:18 AM   #11
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I think you didn't quite understand what I meant there, but then again you sort of did. Let me try to explain it from a different angle.If you choose to roll a bruiser, and you want to roleplay that character, then you would probably begin with certain assumptions:   1) You want to play a martial arts type character (of some sort. If that's a street tough or disciplined kung fu master doesn't matter at this point)   2) That character will be based out of FreeportThat's basically the only kind of prerequisites there are if you would want to roleplay a bruiser. From here on, in my opinion you can be whatever you want to be. If you want to be the hard, raw power kind of fighter, go for it. But you could also choose to be a holdover from when the Ashen Order used to be based in Freeport and be a more disciplined monk style fighter. You could be nice, mean, funny, sarcastic, whatever. And personally, (and I know there are many more out there like me) I will respect you and your roleplaying abilities far more if you make your character interesting, not just some stereotype where you copied and pasted the bruiser class description into your character profile.Here's an example of how I would go through a character creation/class choosing process using this kind of approach. For my Inquisitor, I wanted to play a scholarly kind of character with a theological bent. So naturally a priest class of some sort suggested itself, or a mage class. I went with priest for the main reason that I like playing healer types. I knew from before I even got the game that I wanted to play a dark elf, just because I've always liked that race. So the day the game launched I rolled a dark elf priest. After that the road was totally open. When it became time to pick a class, I was faced with making my priest into a cleric, a shaman, or a druid. I wanted my character to be as I said a scholarly theologian, so that suggests someone who is refined, spends a lot of time in a highly civilized society and leads a rather structured life. While I could have picked anything I wanted, to me when I think of druids and shamans I think of a more natural, down to earth kind of person, rather than a brainy intellectual. So I chose to become a cleric. From here on I could have betrayed and become a templar (and I did consider it), but I think I wanted my character to be not overly concerned with traditional morality, someone who isn't natively cruel or evil, but who really just doesn't care too much about the welfare of other people unless it's of some direct use to me. I could have pulled off that character in Qeynos as well, but for an outlook like that, Freeport in my mind is just a more natural choice. And again from a practical perspective, the game had been out for like two weeks at most so the prospect of doing the betrayal quest, killing 500 gnolls and getting all those named mobs wasn't too appealing to me. So I stayed in Freeport and became an Inquisitor, an Inquisitor who doesn't believe in any particular god, who doesn't try to push any kind of belief on other people, who is polite and friendly for the most part, and who doesn't engage in torture or questioning unless absolutely necessary.The same idea can be used for any class you should choose. The key here is to not get hung up on words and phrases like "Bruiser", "Martial Arts", or "Inquisitor". Be flexible and be creative. Try to make your character something that will make others want to interact with him or her, make them want to learn more about who the character is and what they're all about. I will concede that in the right hands, a stereotype character can be as good as the kind that I prefer, but it takes some real skill to make a character like that interesting and fun to be around.Hope that helps with getting my idea across, I know it got kinda wordy in the middle there
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Unread 01-18-2006, 07:19 AM   #12
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I role play a cynical, drug-addicted, gambling, ex-con bar owner with a perchant for......wait....I don't role play.
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Unread 01-18-2006, 07:22 AM   #13
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All I have to add to this is Vin Diesel in Knock Around guys in the bar fight.  "500 fights..." that screams bruiser to me
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Unread 01-18-2006, 08:07 AM   #14
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Unread 01-18-2006, 02:59 PM   #15
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Colossaltitan wrote:Leezard Vin Diesel? Sexah!
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Unread 01-19-2006, 07:18 AM   #16
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Lahash wrote:

Colossaltitan wrote:Leezard Vin Diesel? Sexah!
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Unread 01-19-2006, 02:36 PM   #17
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Colossaltitan wrote:

Lahash wrote:

Colossaltitan wrote:Leezard Vin Diesel? Sexah!
/flex
Monk wannabe.
SIlence wench!!!  Or I shall hng you from my cieling from your hair!
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Unread 01-19-2006, 06:20 PM   #18
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Heres how you play a soft bruiser.
 
Delete your character.
 
Roll up a monk.
 
My character was too rough on the edges to be a ShadowKnight. ShadowKnights are a more formal kind of evil. Bruisers are more.. Thugish. My character makes more sence that way.
 
I mean you can sit there and say "Dont judge me by my class", but how about you take a look at your spell list and see what you are doing to your foes.
 
What nice person would gourge out someones eyes, for example. Or, in the case of the Inquisidor, what nice non religous person would clenze someones soul with a burning fire, or cast spells that force their party to grant him more power?
 
If you wanted to be nice, you should of went to Qeynos.
 
You should make characters that would fit the role you are trying to roleplay. Why would a female with the qualities you describe WANT to be a Bruiser? Or an Inquisidor. Or a ShadowKnight. Or a Necromancer, etc etc.

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In EQlive, I played an Iksar Monk on Firiona Vie, who was a hardcore disciple of the Swifttail Caste. He was determined to hone his body into The ultimate fighting weapon, and to literally destory all those who stood in his path and threatened his city of Cabilis. When EQ2 came out, I picked the AB server, and I chose an Iksar again, and had a split decision. On the one hand, I saw an Iksar Ranger as a really interesting roleplay, but a difficult one to attain due to the betrayl quest I learned about. On the other, I wanted to go back to my EQlive roots, and portray an Iksar who vied to once more bring back the glory of the monk caste that once fought for the glory of the Iksar Empire, but I didn't want to be a monk again. I love the brusier class and would never go back now. I play my character as a carefree give-a-[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]-less brawler, who fights not for 'the glory of the Overlord' or 'In the defense of his comrades', but because he just [Removed for Content] loves beating the crap out of stuff, and is always up for testing his skill against anyone who he perceives as a worthy challenge, so don't be surprised if you get muscled into a duel or two. He loves the power and the rush, he grins and flexes and smirks as passing by females, especially elves (They put the 'soft' in softskins by far, hehehe). Of course, just like any Iksar who has at least some sense in them, he wouldn't mind burning Freeport to the ground sometime and rebuilding the Cabalisian Empire atop its ashes.
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*I know its off topic* But I love getting in these battles with Lahash =D!
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While most view the bruiser as a dumb unarmed fighter lacking the spiritual and ethical foundations of a Monk I strongly disagree. IMHO while Monks have certain moral and ethical boundaries they will not cross, the bruiser lack these restraints.

My toon is Barbarian technically, but I RP him as a Half Barb/Half DE and he is very intelligent and spiritually aware...what separates him from being a Monk from a RPing perspective is that his Morals as VERY flexible. He is a philosopher trying to come to terms with his mixed heritage and his place in the world.  However, as he has adopted the Tribunal as his religion, when he comes across someone who NEEDS killing he has no qualms about getting the job done.  He is a vigilante at heart.

Evil unarmed fighters (bruisers) have been typecast in a street thug type RPing manner. This is IMHO due to the name of the class (which is unflattering at best).  But remember that we can be just as refined as a Monk, it’s just that when given a dirty task we get the job done without letting things like body count and ethics get in the way. Kill anything that is between me and my Goal, and let the tribunal sort them out!

Think outside the stereotype!

In your case, your father was an armed arena Champion and he taught you how to fight. Your mother was a scholar and made sure your education was courtly.  You can be charming and sweet but your fathers fighting style was very direct – take them down Fast and hard.  Being a bruiser is what you fall back on when courtly manners just are not getting results – its their own fault for not seeing it your way in the first place!!

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I bet you that Barbarian broke the Dark-Elf in half.
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Colossaltitan wrote:
I bet you that Barbarian broke the Dark-Elf in half.
LOL .. . and just imagine if I ever get a yes to my random proposals to hot DE's to make Ogre babies..
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Rotfl. I'm such a perv, someone needs to lock me in a hole some wheres.
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Unread 01-22-2006, 01:52 PM   #25
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Colossaltitan wrote:
*I know its off topic* But I love getting in these battles with Lahash =D!
Keeps people on their toes SMILEY
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Unread 01-24-2006, 10:59 PM   #27
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im not a roleplayer first of all SMILEY.  But if i was to think of anything or anyone as a female and a bruiser id probably go with rogue from the x-men so maybe adapt her style to your bruiser mentality SMILEY
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Honestly, just delet and re-roll a male toon.   There has never been a female bruiser.   (in RL)
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No, she is actually a benevolent Talk Show Host.   besides, she's good alignned. 
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