Improved Moderation

Dusei · 02-24-2010, 02:04 PM

Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)?

Yimway · 02-24-2010, 02:42 PM

Are you casting the buff?

Its working on PVE.

I can't say its actually helping significantly for multi-encounter aggro, but it applies and shows up on my group's stats.

Dusei · 02-24-2010, 02:47 PM

Yes, I cast the buff. I can see it on me and on my groupmates. I even tried to reset to default UI, reset AA, different equip setups, mount or not. Its not giving me hategain.

Yimway · 02-24-2010, 06:14 PM

Sounds like a pvp bug then.

Damile · 02-24-2010, 10:46 PM

Working for me. Was in a group the other night turning well over what we used to be able to turn without a dirge and only once or twice did the mob(s) look away from me.

Vlahkmaak · 02-24-2010, 11:06 PM

It does not show up on the persona window - that is typically where your dirge/swashy/coercer buffs and jewelry will show up. Improved moderations seems to be working great for me - I have a new aoe/dps spec I am using as mentioned on the other thread and am pulling several unlinked encounters, throwing up stone sphere and grabbing everything onto me + reinfocement and blue aoes. I am almost as comfortable with wild mass pulls now on my guard as I am on my pally and SK - not quite but very close.

One thing I cannot figure out for sure though is if moderate will stack with improved moderate as both seem to be castable at th same time - in pvp I will put moderate on the healer due to the way it works in pvp on top of improved grp moderate. Cannot tell for sure if it stacks or not though.

I have noticed that improved unyielding will seems hit or miss. not sure if it might be a pvp bug or if I am taking some massive damage right after it goes off - often when I expect it to go off I just die even when it is up. With the new borked resist mechanism on pvp servers I am taking massive damage from toons who have no buisiness damaging me as I see no pvp gear buffs up in their windows and they are green con - where as before these toons would barely scratch me and only = geared players could harm my guard. Every grp taunt is massive pain incoming now even when buffed to 80% resists.

Landiin · 02-25-2010, 05:31 AM

Just tell ur group mates to look at their hate mod.. It is showing up from what I see and yes they do stack.

thial · 02-26-2010, 05:14 PM

They deffinetly stack

dr4gonUK · 03-07-2010, 02:18 AM

Dusei@Nagafen wrote:

Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)?

On nagafen too. Also not getting the " +5% hate gain " added to persona value, and " -25% " is not being added to group members value.

edit : when i examine the spell it is default ticked for pvp. perhaps that is stopping the pve values being applied. Either way it needs fixing.

Landiin · 03-07-2010, 04:55 AM

I've seen it not apply here and there but recasting it has always fixed the issue, for me at least.

02-24-2010, 02:42 PM	#2
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Are you casting the buff? Its working on PVE. I can't say its actually helping significantly for multi-encounter aggro, but it applies and shows up on my group's stats. __________________

02-24-2010, 06:14 PM	#4
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Sounds like a pvp bug then. __________________

02-24-2010, 10:46 PM	#5
Damile Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24	Working for me. Was in a group the other night turning well over what we used to be able to turn without a dirge and only once or twice did the mob(s) look away from me. __________________ Koradur Haulway Guild Leader and Guardian of The Saviors of Norrath Oasis

02-24-2010, 11:06 PM	#6
Vlahkmaak Server: Venekor Guild: Opus Dei Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,213	It does not show up on the persona window - that is typically where your dirge/swashy/coercer buffs and jewelry will show up. Improved moderations seems to be working great for me - I have a new aoe/dps spec I am using as mentioned on the other thread and am pulling several unlinked encounters, throwing up stone sphere and grabbing everything onto me + reinfocement and blue aoes. I am almost as comfortable with wild mass pulls now on my guard as I am on my pally and SK - not quite but very close. One thing I cannot figure out for sure though is if moderate will stack with improved moderate as both seem to be castable at th same time - in pvp I will put moderate on the healer due to the way it works in pvp on top of improved grp moderate. Cannot tell for sure if it stacks or not though. I have noticed that improved unyielding will seems hit or miss. not sure if it might be a pvp bug or if I am taking some massive damage right after it goes off - often when I expect it to go off I just die even when it is up. With the new borked resist mechanism on pvp servers I am taking massive damage from toons who have no buisiness damaging me as I see no pvp gear buffs up in their windows and they are green con - where as before these toons would barely scratch me and only = geared players could harm my guard. Every grp taunt is massive pain incoming now even when buffed to 80% resists. __________________ Obin 92 Iksar Necro Opus Dei Nagafen Vlahkmaak 92 Troll Guardian Nagafen Dwyrm 92 Dwarf Paladin Nagafen Shoofaug 92 Iksar bruiser Nagafen Vlah 92 Troll Inqy Nagafen Vlahk 50 SK Nagafen Glavlahnus 92 Woodelf Ranger, betrayed and back again Cructik 92 TROLL BL Nagafen

02-25-2010, 05:31 AM	#7
Landiin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,749	Just tell ur group mates to look at their hate mod.. It is showing up from what I see and yes they do stack. __________________

02-24-2010, 02:04 PM	#1
Dusei Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)?

02-24-2010, 02:47 PM	#3
Dusei Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6	Yes, I cast the buff. I can see it on me and on my groupmates. I even tried to reset to default UI, reset AA, different equip setups, mount or not. Its not giving me hategain.

02-26-2010, 05:14 PM	#8
thial Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 257	They deffinetly stack __________________

03-07-2010, 02:18 AM	#9
dr4gonUK Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: England Posts: 211	Dusei@Nagafen wrote: Is Improved Moderation working for you? Its not increasing my HG and not decreasing my group members HG on our Persona window. I am confused about this, is it some kind of hidden bonus or maybe its simply broken on PvP server (I am on Nagafen)? On nagafen too. Also not getting the " +5% hate gain " added to persona value, and " -25% " is not being added to group members value. edit : when i examine the spell it is default ticked for pvp. perhaps that is stopping the pve values being applied. Either way it needs fixing.

03-07-2010, 04:55 AM	#10
Landiin Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,749	I've seen it not apply here and there but recasting it has always fixed the issue, for me at least. __________________