Dungeon Maker Tokens/XP Disabled

Dexella · 07-17-2012, 02:42 PM

Hi Everyone,

Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero).

As soon as we have more information, we will let you know!

Thanks! -- Dexella

komodon10 · 07-17-2012, 02:49 PM

nice to be warned with enough notice so those of us in dungeons just didn't waste an hour of our lives for nothing

Suigin · 07-17-2012, 02:50 PM

Issues? More Information? What more do you need? This is why people get fed up with companies, seriously just come out and say it was being exploited and you are fixing it! It's not even the issue that you fix it but leaving your customers in the dark with vague statements like this just annoys the crap out of them. Here let me fix it for you...

Hi Everone,

Due to people AE grinding and accumulating massive ammounts of exp and tokens we have temporarily disabled the rewards in Dungeon maker (set to zero).

As soon as we find a nice balance to our system we will let you know!

Thanks!

yohann koldheart · 07-17-2012, 02:53 PM

Dexella wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero).
As soon as we have more information, we will let you know!
Thanks! -- Dexella

so in other words "we nerfed the DM but we think we didnt nerf it hard enough so were going to suspend rewards till we can think of a way to make it compleatly useless!! "

komodon10 · 07-17-2012, 02:53 PM

So you want us to build dungeons....someone builds a dungeon that gives rewards...and then you punish the builder by making the dungeons useless.... good job SOE

Luhai · 07-17-2012, 02:54 PM

Way to go, SOE.

I'm really looking forward to the revamp of the Battlegrounds if you handle them the same way. SMILEY

komodon10 · 07-17-2012, 02:58 PM

Hi Everyone,

Due to issues being reported with people actually playing in dungeon builder dungeons, all fun has been turned off. will have more information as it comes in.

Freejazzlive · 07-17-2012, 03:09 PM

Dexella wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero).
As soon as we have more information, we will let you know!
Thanks! -- Dexella

I can only hope this became the MOTD, because otherwise .....

/facepalm

SOE-MOD-02 · 07-17-2012, 03:10 PM

Let's keep the posts constructive and respectful please.

Onurissa · 07-17-2012, 03:11 PM

Freejazzlive wrote:

Dexella wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero).
As soon as we have more information, we will let you know!
Thanks! -- Dexella
I can only hope this became the MOTD, because otherwise .....
/facepalm

It did almost immediatley after being posted here.

Shutat · 07-17-2012, 03:14 PM

Don't forget your "patch" also massively increased the mob's HP and damage-dealing capabilities. Odd, considering SoE was bragging about "Playing DM's as your own toon, ***AT ANY LEVEL***"...

I would really like it if SoE would tell us how they expect a Lv.20 toon to walk into a DM right now, and kill a group of 2-5 mobs w/ 200k HP each, much less the DM's where people could actually grind some EXP. SoE has been making more and more pushes toward making a Level/AA-grind easier. But now, when they finally stumble on a means that actually got the job done, they utterly destroy it...

I wonder when they will actually wake up, and STOP destroying people's faith in them. Can't be too many people left that still believes in them anyway. Most are still around simply because their membership hasn't expired yet, I think. lol

arthemis1er · 07-17-2012, 04:04 PM

Prompt to fix junk but our conjuror spells are bugged for years !!!

When you will fix communion for instance ?

Endrian · 07-17-2012, 04:30 PM

soe have done a poor job with dm spent weeks hypeing how good it will be as play as your toon its been nothing but a soe flop job from the start

Loendar · 07-17-2012, 04:33 PM

I'm curious - given the fact that you could get the new mount from a single dungeon run (literally) and the new charm (highest level) from two additional runs, is anyone REALLY surprised that they decided to swing the nerf bat hard at this?

Of course, the better solution would be to increase the amount that those items cost on the marketplace by a factor of 10 (minimum) to simply require more runs but that would have too easy.

Granted - the experience generated might be too high as well but as others have already noted the push to allow people to level at a stunning rate has been getting implemented over the years anyway, so what is one more way to do it going to hurt?

Narcissica · 07-17-2012, 04:40 PM

Welp, back to NOT playing dungeon maker again. Not worth it!

Juravael · 07-17-2012, 05:54 PM

Fatalerrors@Splitpaw wrote:

soe have done a poor job with dm spent weeks hypeing how good it will be as play as your toon its been nothing but a soe flop job from the start

Sadly I have to agree with this. It seems as if things are not tested ( long enough? by the correct folks? I have no idea. ) or thought out more in depth ahead of time anymore. 2nd time in a week now DM has been made useless.

Lyndro-EQ2 · 07-17-2012, 06:17 PM

Hey folks, here's an update on what's going on.

There is a broken file on live (The Amygdalan Protector). We're going to update that file with tomorrow's hotfix, but for the rest of the day today that creature won't spawn in anyone's dungeon. Pretty soon (Within the next hour hopefully), we're going to turn back on XP and tokens. The only thing that won't work as normal will be the Amygalan Protectors, which just won't spawn.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

Dexella · 07-17-2012, 06:20 PM

As of now, Tokens and XP have been restored in the game.

Thanks!

~Dexella

Koleg · 07-17-2012, 06:36 PM

Thx for the updates, truely.

You have an opportunity right now to restore the DM into the game and a little faith in the staff as well depending on how this goes. I wish you well. I was one of those who down right refused to use the DM system with Avatars. I've stayed away from it this week as the exploites seem to always land and force reverals or suspenssions which I'd rather avoid where possible. Some people made 1,000 of plat. Some sucked up tons of gear. Some made large gainns to XP & AA. None of which was intended.

If you end up nerfing the DM process to where mobs are too difficult then you'll end up turning away people and permanantly this time. DM has been launched and retracted and placed on test and retested for much longer than any GU or X-pack around. The new agnostic thing is interesting and something to work towards, but your alogrithims need to work or it will set the whole system back to the dark ages, never to return.

p.s. nobody wants sub-par armor they can get easier other places... have a little excitement and originality when thinking about those sort of things.

Hirofortis · 07-17-2012, 07:16 PM

Well maybe it will get fixed, maybe it won't. Yea, there was an exploit. had to laugh hearing about it. But don't want to talk about it with the ban police out. Needless to say, just another reason DM is no fun. Certainly refuse to use it in its current state. Useless beyond useless. Why don't you just turn off DM becasue right now it is useless. When you get it fixed let us know. Not gonan waste time with it.

Kasar · 07-17-2012, 09:54 PM

I would've traded all of the DM content for the starter islands, but apparently those in charge want their resources used on other things: fluff for housing, fluff for appearance, fluff for DM...

DM has nothing to do with the timelines or storylines, it's not an essential part of anything, so why is it a priority?

07-17-2012, 02:42 PM	#1
Dexella Community Relations Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 477	Hi Everyone, Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero). As soon as we have more information, we will let you know! Thanks! -- Dexella __________________ Dexella Community Relations Manager

07-17-2012, 02:53 PM	#4
yohann koldheart Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: harrisburg,PA Posts: 1,601	Dexella wrote: Hi Everyone, Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero). As soon as we have more information, we will let you know! Thanks! -- Dexella so in other words "we nerfed the DM but we think we didnt nerf it hard enough so were going to suspend rewards till we can think of a way to make it compleatly useless!! "

07-17-2012, 02:54 PM	#6
Luhai Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 679	Way to go, SOE. I'm really looking forward to the revamp of the Battlegrounds if you handle them the same way. __________________

07-17-2012, 03:09 PM	#8
Freejazzlive Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends Posts: 704	Dexella wrote: Hi Everyone, Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero). As soon as we have more information, we will let you know! Thanks! -- Dexella I can only hope this became the MOTD, because otherwise ..... /facepalm __________________ Talechaser Tuckpaw, Troubadour of Freeport Golgi Apparati, Swashbuckler of Freeport Aheedi Adaephon, Warlock of Freeport

07-17-2012, 03:10 PM	#9
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07-17-2012, 02:49 PM	#2
komodon10 Lord Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5	nice to be warned with enough notice so those of us in dungeons just didn't waste an hour of our lives for nothing

07-17-2012, 02:50 PM	#3
Suigin Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Evil Petting Zoo Rank: Dirty Bird Loremaster Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1	Issues? More Information? What more do you need? This is why people get fed up with companies, seriously just come out and say it was being exploited and you are fixing it! It's not even the issue that you fix it but leaving your customers in the dark with vague statements like this just annoys the crap out of them. Here let me fix it for you... Hi Everone, Due to people AE grinding and accumulating massive ammounts of exp and tokens we have temporarily disabled the rewards in Dungeon maker (set to zero). As soon as we find a nice balance to our system we will let you know! Thanks!

07-17-2012, 02:58 PM	#7
komodon10 Lord Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 5	Hi Everyone, Due to issues being reported with people actually playing in dungeon builder dungeons, all fun has been turned off. will have more information as it comes in.

07-17-2012, 03:11 PM	#10
Onurissa Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Order of Marr Rank: Council Lord Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 418	Freejazzlive wrote: Dexella wrote: Hi Everyone, Due to some issues that have been reported with Dungeon Maker, the tokens and XP are currently disabled (set to zero). As soon as we have more information, we will let you know! Thanks! -- Dexella I can only hope this became the MOTD, because otherwise ..... /facepalm It did almost immediatley after being posted here.

07-17-2012, 03:14 PM	#11
Shutat Lorekeeper Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 7	Don't forget your "patch" also massively increased the mob's HP and damage-dealing capabilities. Odd, considering SoE was bragging about "Playing DM's as your own toon, *AT ANY LEVEL*"... I would really like it if SoE would tell us how they expect a Lv.20 toon to walk into a DM right now, and kill a group of 2-5 mobs w/ 200k HP each, much less the DM's where people could actually grind some EXP. SoE has been making more and more pushes toward making a Level/AA-grind easier. But now, when they finally stumble on a means that actually got the job done, they utterly destroy it... I wonder when they will actually wake up, and STOP destroying people's faith in them. Can't be too many people left that still believes in them anyway. Most are still around simply because their membership hasn't expired yet, I think. lol

07-17-2012, 04:04 PM	#12
arthemis1er Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 118	Prompt to fix junk but our conjuror spells are bugged for years !!! When you will fix communion for instance ?

07-17-2012, 04:30 PM	#13
Endrian Server: Runnyeye Guild: Shooting Stars Rank: Guild Leader Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 45	soe have done a poor job with dm spent weeks hypeing how good it will be as play as your toon its been nothing but a soe flop job from the start

07-17-2012, 04:33 PM	#14
Loendar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 253	I'm curious - given the fact that you could get the new mount from a single dungeon run (literally) and the new charm (highest level) from two additional runs, is anyone REALLY surprised that they decided to swing the nerf bat hard at this? Of course, the better solution would be to increase the amount that those items cost on the marketplace by a factor of 10 (minimum) to simply require more runs but that would have too easy. Granted - the experience generated might be too high as well but as others have already noted the push to allow people to level at a stunning rate has been getting implemented over the years anyway, so what is one more way to do it going to hurt? __________________

07-17-2012, 04:40 PM	#15
Narcissica Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1	Welp, back to NOT playing dungeon maker again. Not worth it!

07-17-2012, 05:54 PM	#16
Juravael Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 997	Fatalerrors@Splitpaw wrote: soe have done a poor job with dm spent weeks hypeing how good it will be as play as your toon its been nothing but a soe flop job from the start Sadly I have to agree with this. It seems as if things are not tested ( long enough? by the correct folks? I have no idea. ) or thought out more in depth ahead of time anymore. 2nd time in a week now DM has been made useless.

07-17-2012, 06:17 PM	#17
Lyndro-EQ2 Lead Designer Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 162	Hey folks, here's an update on what's going on. There is a broken file on live (The Amygdalan Protector). We're going to update that file with tomorrow's hotfix, but for the rest of the day today that creature won't spawn in anyone's dungeon. Pretty soon (Within the next hour hopefully), we're going to turn back on XP and tokens. The only thing that won't work as normal will be the Amygalan Protectors, which just won't spawn. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

07-17-2012, 06:20 PM	#18
Dexella Community Relations Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 477	As of now, Tokens and XP have been restored in the game. Thanks! ~Dexella __________________ Dexella Community Relations Manager

07-17-2012, 06:36 PM	#19
Koleg Server: Unrest_old Lord Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 713	Thx for the updates, truely. You have an opportunity right now to restore the DM into the game and a little faith in the staff as well depending on how this goes. I wish you well. I was one of those who down right refused to use the DM system with Avatars. I've stayed away from it this week as the exploites seem to always land and force reverals or suspenssions which I'd rather avoid where possible. Some people made 1,000 of plat. Some sucked up tons of gear. Some made large gainns to XP & AA. None of which was intended. If you end up nerfing the DM process to where mobs are too difficult then you'll end up turning away people and permanantly this time. DM has been launched and retracted and placed on test and retested for much longer than any GU or X-pack around. The new agnostic thing is interesting and something to work towards, but your alogrithims need to work or it will set the whole system back to the dark ages, never to return. p.s. nobody wants sub-par armor they can get easier other places... have a little excitement and originality when thinking about those sort of things.

07-17-2012, 07:16 PM	#20
Hirofortis Loremaster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 610	Well maybe it will get fixed, maybe it won't. Yea, there was an exploit. had to laugh hearing about it. But don't want to talk about it with the ban police out. Needless to say, just another reason DM is no fun. Certainly refuse to use it in its current state. Useless beyond useless. Why don't you just turn off DM becasue right now it is useless. When you get it fixed let us know. Not gonan waste time with it.

07-17-2012, 09:54 PM	#21
Kasar Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 540	I would've traded all of the DM content for the starter islands, but apparently those in charge want their resources used on other things: fluff for housing, fluff for appearance, fluff for DM... DM has nothing to do with the timelines or storylines, it's not an essential part of anything, so why is it a priority?