Is server bonus EXP working as intended?

Lempo · 02-20-2012, 01:52 PM

This is puzzling me, I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me or not but something seems amiss with the server EXP bonus. What is going on between 0% conversion and 100% conversion, there is extra experience in there. These number were all without vitality, and from the same mobs of same level, AA and character level same throughout all as well.

0% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses73+117 from bonuses (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below

73+73 from bonuses73+73 from bonuses (Encounter EXP)

25% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 95 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 95 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below73+73 from bonuses - convert 73 into AA73+73 from bonuses - convert 73 into AA (Encounter EXP)

50% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 190 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 190 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below73+73 from bonuses - convert 146 into AA73+73 from bonuses - convert 146 into AA (Encounter EXP)

75% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 285 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 285 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below

73+73 from bonuses - conv 219 into AA73+73 from bonuses - conv 219 into AA (Encounter EXP)

100% EXP converted to AA 380 converted to AA380 converted to AA (Encounter EXP)________________ character bonus exp disabled below292 converted to AA292 converted to AA (Encounter EXP)

Daisey · 02-20-2012, 02:02 PM

Math isn't my strong suit but 73 + 73 sounds doubled to me.

Lempo · 02-20-2012, 02:17 PM

73+73=146 yes that is being double, when 0% is being converted there are 146 EXP points, when 100% is being converted it is 292. I clarified the OP it is adding the 100% server bonus, but the numbers don't add up when converting.

Daisey · 02-20-2012, 02:22 PM

73 regular exp

73 bonus

73 reg exp (aa double)

73 bonus (aa double)

= 292

Looks like it just keeps on doublin'

Lempo · 02-20-2012, 02:28 PM

Guess that is what they meant by TRUE double EXP.

I can't say for sure but I do not think it worked like this on the last server bonus EXP, I could be wrong though because I didn't look at it as closely.

CoLD MeTaL · 02-20-2012, 02:30 PM

We dont know what the "Adv to AA XP" Conversion rate is. It isn't 1:1.

Gravy · 02-20-2012, 02:37 PM

Its additive.

Normal

(Mob XP)

Bonus

(Mob XP + Mob XP)

If you're using a bonus potion it would be:

(Mob XP + Mob XP) + (Mob XP * 110%)

If you have 4 other 90 toons it would be:

(Mob XP + Mob XP) + (Mob XP * 110%) + (Mob XP * 80%)

The bonus is based on the base XP.

Lempo · 02-20-2012, 03:05 PM

These numbers are not using a potion, and I showed both with character bonus exp enabled and disabled which has the effect you think that it would.

If the conversion isn't 1:1 (which is what it seems) then that would explain it.

CoLD MeTaL · 02-20-2012, 03:58 PM

Lempo@Everfrost wrote:

These numbers are not using a potion, and I showed both with character bonus exp enabled and disabled which has the effect you think that it would.
If the conversion isn't 1:1 (which is what it seems) then that would explain it.

This might explain what you are seeing:

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5400528#5400528

Kraqen wrote:

New SystemVitality alone = Triple XP (+ 200%) each kill is worth 3 kills --- Faster gain than before100% potion = Double XP (+100%) Each kill = 2 kills --- Faster than old systemVitality and 100% potion = Quad XP (200% + 100% = 300% bonus) = Same as old system1 Is this correct?2 Does the change to vitality include tradeskill xp as well3 Did we ever figure out the combat to aa conversion? If I have a potion that gives combat and aa xp, do I 'double dip' the bonus when at %100 AA?

1. That looks right, yep.2. Yes, tradeskill experience was included in the recent update and uses the same calculations as adventure experience.3. Yes, both adventure experience and AA experience bonuses do stack for an increased benefit.

KatrinaDeath · 02-20-2012, 09:42 PM

its a bonus XP and AA (along with TS) weekend. your 73XP is being doubled to 146XP and then converted to AA. then your AA is being doubled hence the 292AAXP. dont waste time leveling on XP weekends level the AA!

Wizardlord · 02-21-2012, 09:13 AM

it was a pretty crazy weekend hehe, i got 3 toons to 320 (ranger/conj/illu) and 1 to 90 but wasnt easy with places like seb/chardok/kc and pretty much every contested zone packed lol

lostsandman · 02-21-2012, 09:24 AM

High level contested zones were full of people. I mentored down and went to some low level contested zones and they were not as contested and some of them were even empty! They gave lot more xp per hour than the high level contested zones.

Yimway · 02-21-2012, 07:10 PM

Lempo@Everfrost wrote:

73+73=146 yes that is being double, when 0% is being converted there are 146 EXP points, when 100% is being converted it is 292. I clarified the OP it is adding the 100% server bonus, but the numbers don't add up when converting.

Yes, we've known this for years, but have tried to keep it quiet.

If you convert the xp to aa, the bonus gets applied 2x. Once on the natural calculation, then another bonus on the AA side due to the conversion.

Thus on double xp weekends we can get an aa every 3-4 minutes.

02-20-2012, 01:52 PM	#1
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	This is puzzling me, I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me or not but something seems amiss with the server EXP bonus. What is going on between 0% conversion and 100% conversion, there is extra experience in there. These number were all without vitality, and from the same mobs of same level, AA and character level same throughout all as well. 0% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses73+117 from bonuses (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below 73+73 from bonuses73+73 from bonuses (Encounter EXP) 25% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 95 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 95 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below73+73 from bonuses - convert 73 into AA73+73 from bonuses - convert 73 into AA (Encounter EXP) 50% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 190 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 190 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below73+73 from bonuses - convert 146 into AA73+73 from bonuses - convert 146 into AA (Encounter EXP) 75% EXP converted to AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 285 into AA73+117 from bonuses - convert 285 into AA (Encounter EXP)____________________ character bonus exp disabled below 73+73 from bonuses - conv 219 into AA73+73 from bonuses - conv 219 into AA (Encounter EXP) 100% EXP converted to AA 380 converted to AA380 converted to AA (Encounter EXP)________________ character bonus exp disabled below292 converted to AA292 converted to AA (Encounter EXP) __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-20-2012, 02:17 PM	#3
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	73+73=146 yes that is being double, when 0% is being converted there are 146 EXP points, when 100% is being converted it is 292. I clarified the OP it is adding the 100% server bonus, but the numbers don't add up when converting. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-20-2012, 02:30 PM	#6
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	We dont know what the "Adv to AA XP" Conversion rate is. It isn't 1:1. __________________

02-20-2012, 03:05 PM	#8
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	These numbers are not using a potion, and I showed both with character bonus exp enabled and disabled which has the effect you think that it would. If the conversion isn't 1:1 (which is what it seems) then that would explain it. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-20-2012, 03:58 PM	#9
CoLD MeTaL Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,217	Lempo@Everfrost wrote: These numbers are not using a potion, and I showed both with character bonus exp enabled and disabled which has the effect you think that it would. If the conversion isn't 1:1 (which is what it seems) then that would explain it. This might explain what you are seeing: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...5400528#5400528 Kraqen wrote: New SystemVitality alone = Triple XP (+ 200%) each kill is worth 3 kills --- Faster gain than before100% potion = Double XP (+100%) Each kill = 2 kills --- Faster than old systemVitality and 100% potion = Quad XP (200% + 100% = 300% bonus) = Same as old system1 Is this correct?2 Does the change to vitality include tradeskill xp as well3 Did we ever figure out the combat to aa conversion? If I have a potion that gives combat and aa xp, do I 'double dip' the bonus when at %100 AA? 1. That looks right, yep.2. Yes, tradeskill experience was included in the recent update and uses the same calculations as adventure experience.3. Yes, both adventure experience and AA experience bonuses do stack for an increased benefit. __________________

02-20-2012, 02:02 PM	#2
Daisey Server: Oasis Guild: Compulsive Harvesters Rank: Chief Collector (Leader) Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 95	Math isn't my strong suit but 73 + 73 sounds doubled to me.

02-20-2012, 02:22 PM	#4
Daisey Server: Oasis Guild: Compulsive Harvesters Rank: Chief Collector (Leader) Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 95	73 regular exp 73 bonus 73 reg exp (aa double) 73 bonus (aa double) = 292 Looks like it just keeps on doublin'

02-20-2012, 02:28 PM	#5
Lempo Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,179	Guess that is what they meant by TRUE double EXP. I can't say for sure but I do not think it worked like this on the last server bonus EXP, I could be wrong though because I didn't look at it as closely. __________________ All actions have consequences and repercussions. Somewhere in Norrath a guild is about to dissolve.

02-20-2012, 02:37 PM	#7
Gravy Lord Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 382	Its additive. Normal (Mob XP) Bonus (Mob XP + Mob XP) If you're using a bonus potion it would be: (Mob XP + Mob XP) + (Mob XP * 110%) If you have 4 other 90 toons it would be: (Mob XP + Mob XP) + (Mob XP * 110%) + (Mob XP * 80%) The bonus is based on the base XP.

02-20-2012, 09:42 PM	#10
KatrinaDeath Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 690	its a bonus XP and AA (along with TS) weekend. your 73XP is being doubled to 146XP and then converted to AA. then your AA is being doubled hence the 292AAXP. dont waste time leveling on XP weekends level the AA!

02-21-2012, 09:13 AM	#11
Wizardlord Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Acolytes of Valor Rank: Knight Loremaster Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 139	it was a pretty crazy weekend hehe, i got 3 toons to 320 (ranger/conj/illu) and 1 to 90 but wasnt easy with places like seb/chardok/kc and pretty much every contested zone packed lol __________________

02-21-2012, 09:24 AM	#12
lostsandman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 188	High level contested zones were full of people. I mentored down and went to some low level contested zones and they were not as contested and some of them were even empty! They gave lot more xp per hour than the high level contested zones.

02-21-2012, 07:10 PM	#13
Yimway Loremaster Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,707	Lempo@Everfrost wrote: 73+73=146 yes that is being double, when 0% is being converted there are 146 EXP points, when 100% is being converted it is 292. I clarified the OP it is adding the 100% server bonus, but the numbers don't add up when converting. Yes, we've known this for years, but have tried to keep it quiet. If you convert the xp to aa, the bonus gets applied 2x. Once on the natural calculation, then another bonus on the AA side due to the conversion. Thus on double xp weekends we can get an aa every 3-4 minutes. __________________