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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:46 PM   #1
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If SoE halving the price on DoV and not reimbursing, here comes an even bigger slap in the face. Seems that AoD includes DoV now, even thou they said it wouldn't.

Guess they are doing their best to upset people who bought DoV after that announcement.

So, full price DoV one week.. A few weeks later they change their minds and you can get both DoV and AoD for the same price...

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:53 PM   #2
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I would jump all over this for one of my accounts if it could be confirmed to be true.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:54 PM   #3
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Where are you seeing this?

Bah this is just trolling, I just checked the marketplace in game and both are the same prices.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:57 PM   #4
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I checked in the game SC shop and Amazona dn neither have changed the description to say it included that. That is wahy I am wary without official confirmation or multiple people validating it.

Would be very easy for someone to say that malicously then go "well that was what I saw" or "must have been a bug." Not implying in the slightest that is waht the OP is doing, just saying someone could easily do that and cause people to waste money.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:57 PM   #5
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Jayne@Kithicor wrote:

Where are you seeing this?

Bah this is just trolling, I just checked the marketplace in game and both are the same prices.

No, this is not Trolling.. Several people on my server have bought AoD and can play in DoV even thou they didnt buy it.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:59 PM   #6
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There has been no announcement it is entirly possible that the accounts for it are flagged incorrectly.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 07:59 PM   #7
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Luterin wrote:

Jayne@Kithicor wrote:

Where are you seeing this?

Bah this is just trolling, I just checked the marketplace in game and both are the same prices.

No, this is not Trolling.. Several people on my server have bought AoD and can play in DoV even thou they didnt buy it.

lol, lovely of you to come here and rat them out then. Too bad they'll lose their magic christmas present after SOE sees this thread. (I'm not one of them btw, I paid full price, but I don't begrudge others a fluke bonus if it's not an exploit)

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Unread 12-15-2011, 08:00 PM   #8
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Luterin wrote:

Jayne@Kithicor wrote:

Where are you seeing this?

Bah this is just trolling, I just checked the marketplace in game and both are the same prices.

No, this is not Trolling.. Several people on my server have bought AoD and can play in DoV even thou they didnt buy it.

Whatt I think you really should have posted was that fact, and asked for clarification if it was intended or a bug. The manner in which you posted might inadvertantly get someone to buy it only to have SOE say it was a bug and everything is fixed now. And since the description never said that, I doubt they would refund peoples money just because they bought something on the word of a forum poster.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 08:08 PM   #9
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Like wise I didn't buy AoD I feel ripped off enough as it is, they should give money back.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 08:09 PM   #10
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Raknid wrote:

Whatt I think you really should have posted was that fact, and asked for clarification if it was intended or a bug. The manner in which you posted might inadvertantly get someone to buy it only to have SOE say it was a bug and everything is fixed now. And since the description never said that, I doubt they would refund peoples money just because they bought something on the word of a forum poster.

If you look at the topic it's a question, but yeah, I could have made the post in a different way, just anoyed by paying full price for DoV just before AoD because they said AoD would not include DoV and nothing would change with DoV, which in my mind implied price. So this new issue kinda rekindled that old flame I had from when I felt cheated out when they lowered price on DoV by half.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 04:49 AM   #11
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After reading this thread I am VERY confused now

Does AoD now include DoV or does it not?

I subscribed a second account just a month before AoD launched and bought DoV for it, because SOE said DoV would not be included in AoD (otherwise I would have been waiting for AoD for that second account).

Now that they've already taken away 2 months of RAF feautures from me, even though stating everywhere they wouldn't take ANYTHING away, hearing that DoV is now half the price AND included in AoD I'd be even more upset.

So is that the case now or what?!?

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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:21 AM   #12
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I noticed as well that after buying AoD for my account that DoV doesn't appear in the marketplace anymore. Last exp I bought was SF but it seems that AoD unlocked DoV stuff too like the Heroic tree which previously stated that I did not have the proper expansion for it.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 05:47 AM   #13
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When I first purchased AoD, DoV was a seperate selection in the Marketplace. I also didn't have the additional AAs and the Heroic tree.

Now, DoV is no longer showing up and I have access to the bonus AAs and the tree. I also have access to the zone (I think, I never tried to go there yet)

So I dunno. If it's a mistake, I do hope it's fixed. If it isn't a mistake, I do feel a bit sorry for those who bought DoV first. But if that's the case, AoD will probably see a price drop so it'll wind up costing the same anyway.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 08:20 AM   #14
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Maybe people want DoV and not AoD?  So it's offered seperately even though if you buy Aod it's included?  Who knows, but to get an accurate and correct answer I suggest PMing an MOD rather then ask and confuse us who only know as much or less then you do. just sayin...

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Unread 12-16-2011, 09:24 AM   #15
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my son bought me the collectors AOD and lo and behold i can now go to the great divide which is DOV. i dont get any of the /claim stuff but hey thats ok by me.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 09:38 AM   #16
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Eliohia wrote:

my son bought me the collectors AOD and lo and behold i can now go to the great divide which is DOV. i dont get any of the /claim stuff but hey thats ok by me.

This sounds bugged then.  I definitely wouldn't run around buying AoD for your accounts, those of you that don't have it, expecting to be granted permanent access to DoV if you didn't already buy that as well.

I'd bug this.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 09:42 AM   #17
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Hateeternal wrote:

After reading this thread I am VERY confused now

Does AoD now include DoV or does it not?

All official information we have right now says no, it does not.

That doesn't mean they didn't change their minds and it was enabled on the purchase but just not communicated (or possibly it's even a special promotion right now, but that seems unlikely.)

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Unread 12-16-2011, 11:54 AM   #18
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This is why I always avoid pre-ordering and even buying an x-pac while it's still 'hot' - I suppose if I was in a raiding guild that was keeping up on content, it might matter, but I never have the time to devote to that anymore. On occasion I might do a pre-order, but the little 'give mes' you get almost never equal up to what's saved if you stay one x-pac behind.

Really, I wish they'd do $25.00 an x-pac and just leave the price there, then I'd buy them on release.

Same with new games - like Skyrim; wait for 6 months - then it's bug fixed, and there are fun mods out there for it already that have some of their bugs cleaned up too, heh.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 12:13 PM   #19
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Hateeternal wrote:

.......

I subscribed a second account just a month before AoD launched and bought DoV for it, because SOE said DoV would not be included in AoD (otherwise I would have been waiting for AoD for that second account).

.........

dang - I almost thought I had already posted in this thread when I read exactly what I had done

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Unread 12-16-2011, 02:47 PM   #20
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So far I see one bonafide "I bought AoD, I didn't buy DoV, and I can zone into Great Divide" statement. Everything else is a friend of a friend or cousin or someone at the Frosty Cream.

Can we get some screenshots of people's Entitlements page from SOE.com with Destiny of Velious NOT listed, and then a screenshot of your character in Great Divide?

I've got an article drafted if this happens.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 03:11 PM   #21
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So far I see one bonafide "I bought AoD, I didn't buy DoV, and I can zone into Great Divide" statement. Everything else is a friend of a friend or cousin or someone at the Frosty Cream.

Can we get some screenshots of people's Entitlements page from SOE.com with Destiny of Velious NOT listed, and then a screenshot of your character in Great Divide?

I've got an article drafted if this happens.

I bought the CE preorderfor a silver account, and was surprised to be able to zone in there from a druid circle.  And yesterday I bought the basic version of it for another silver account with SC, and was also able to travel there with those characters to get the location dings.  (Had to log entirely out and in for the everything to register in the game.)

I am thinking that Sony changed thier minds, but forgot to tell any of us.  If this is so, then they should refund the SC that anyone recently spent to buy Velious if those players also bought AoD shortly afterwards.

(Of course if those players bought a CE of Velious or anything with bonus stuff, that is a diff matter.)

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Unread 12-16-2011, 03:25 PM   #22
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sorry for the slightly big pictures, the first picture shows I have AoD but not DoV, also notice my station cash balance is the same that I have in 2nd picture, which is a picture of my beastlord (AoD only) in Great Divide (DoV zone)

apparently I do not get any of the special DoV claims, just access to its base content

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Unread 12-16-2011, 03:26 PM   #23
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We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 03:42 PM   #24
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SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

If AoD has no association with DoV, does that mean the BL epic will not require DoV content to start or complete.  The BL epic is the most important quest of that class, which is an AoD exclusive.

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Unread 12-16-2011, 03:43 PM   #25
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Haciv wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

If AoD has no association with DoV, does that mean the BL epic will not require DoV content to start or complete.  The BL epic is the most important quest of that class, which is an AoD exclusive.

the epic/myth should be kunark and under like all the other ones are.

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yohann koldheart wrote:

Haciv wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

If AoD has no association with DoV, does that mean the BL epic will not require DoV content to start or complete.  The BL epic is the most important quest of that class, which is an AoD exclusive.

the epic/myth should be kunark and under like all the other ones are.

Yes, it SHOULD be RoK and under, but there are signs of that not being the case.  Most notably the new high level Kromzek in Great Divide which is not associated to any loot or any other quest.  That's a fairly strong sign that BL's will need DoV to finish their most important class quest.

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SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

so if access to dov is gonna be removed, what will happen to quests that I have completed.  For example the pack pony and fae flight, which are both DoV exclusive quests

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Since it's level 90, it likely may not be.

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SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

Pretty fast to jump all over this post but not reply NOR comments about some of the other issues people are having with the marketplace and various posts about the way some of the wordings of podcasts and posting from your end has been.  Goes to show that thigns are being read and heartily ignored when convenient. Guess some things in the SOE offices never change.

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Stonethumb wrote:

SmokeJumper wrote:

We have been very clear that purchase of Age of Discovery does not grant access to Destiny of Velious content.

If that is occurring currently, it is a bug and will be fixed ASAP.

The Age of Discovery expansion is not all-inclusive. It is a separate, level-agnostic pack of gameplay that is optional. It has no association with DoV whatsoever.

Pretty fast to jump all over this post but not reply NOR comments about some of the other issues people are having with the marketplace and various posts about the way some of the wordings of podcasts and posting from your end has been.  Goes to show that thigns are being read and heartily ignored when convenient. Guess some things in the SOE offices never change.

Feldon's talk of an article caused them to perk right up.

They certainly did not want a "Uncorrected Bug Reported a Week Prior: Customers purchased AoD thinking it inlcuded DoV" headline.

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