Warden or Fury + PVP Newb questions

Azureblaze · 05-09-2009, 07:03 AM

Couple of questions guys, my friends and I may start on Naggy soon.

It's going to be a duo or trio team.

I'm thinking of playing either warden or fury.

Say we had a dps scout type and a tank type (prolly sk or pally) in a trio + warden or fury what say you? What's best suited in this scenario for pve and pvp?

Would the answer change if it was a just a brig + warden or fury?

Thoughts?

I know warden's are awesome healers however I like the DPS of a fury but if I'm in a trio I think maybe the warden may be better because of the better heals, and us already having DPS... at least for PVE..but well I'm not sure what the thoughts are for PVP , that's why I'm asking opinions.

Also : Can someone point me to a good link that explains PVP rules / what’s different / factions?

Last : Can you mentor someone on a PVP server?

Thanks!

Ol · 05-09-2009, 12:45 PM

Azureblaze wrote:

Couple of questions guys, my friends and I may start on Naggy soon.
It's going to be a duo or trio team.
I'm thinking of playing either warden or fury.
Say we had a dps scout type and a tank type (prolly sk or pally) in a trio + warden or fury what say you? What's best suited in this scenario for pve and pvp?
Would the answer change if it was a just a brig + warden or fury?
Thoughts?
I know warden's are awesome healers however I like the DPS of a fury but if I'm in a trio I think maybe the warden may be better because of the better heals, and us already having DPS... at least for PVE..but well I'm not sure what the thoughts are for PVP , that's why I'm asking opinions.
Also : Can someone point me to a good link that explains PVP rules / what’s different / factions?
Last : Can you mentor someone on a PVP server? yes, but you cant fight back
Thanks!

One of the best trios is sk/enchanter/cleric. makes for a strong trio. but if you really want the druid, you could be fury in the lower levels for the dps, and betray to warden in the higher levels. you could also go mystic/inq, they can spec melee and still do some good dps, while still being able to heal

Razgriz · 05-09-2009, 01:06 PM

At lower levels, a Fury is going to be just as strong as a Warden for healing, and Strike of Thunder/Starburst lines put some serious hurt on your enemies. In the long run though, especially already having a DPS in the group, I'd go with Warden. The power efficiency is what really makes them shine, and if you still want to DPS the melee build works pretty well. One thing of note in PvP is, especially at endgame, the resist rates for spells can be really high. Furies lose a lot of damage potential when they hear the resist noise over and over.

Crusaders are both very strong in PvP at the moment, so they'll make a great tank. Everyone and their grandmother is playing Shadowknights, so if you guys want to be a little different you might want to try Pally. Not as strong as SK, but they have some great tricks up their sleeve for holding aggro (Sigil force taunts enemy players to the pally 75% of the time on group members taking damage, locks them on for 3s per taunt trigger) and spike damage (Castigation is amazing if the timing is right).

For your third, if you want a pure DPS scout, Assassins are nice but might have trouble stealth chaining if it's only a 3-man group (assuming you're planning on group v group fighting). Swashie might be a better choice, more surviviability as well as more AOE damage to pressure the healers. If you're taking a Pally along, they also debuff Divine. Brigs are a little less damage but they do a great job harrassing people with stuns and knockbacks. I wouldn't take Ranger, in a group you're going to want people close enough to heal and taunt off. Troub might be a nice third, while they do less DPS they still have the essential track and evac, but they give power regeneration and some crowd control- Charm lasts only a short time in pvp, but if you charm the right enemy it causes a lot of trouble.

Azureblaze · 05-09-2009, 04:42 PM

Thanks for the feedback, was actually thinking of starting a Fury and changing to Warden later. And thanks for good Trio feedback as well, I'll mention it to my friends.

Kendayar · 05-11-2009, 10:03 AM

See, it's better to ask someone who has played both on all levels because it's very, very, very likely someone gives you wrong information. I've done both at all levels so let's get some facts in. Both druids are roughly equal in healing power ( unless we're talking epic weapon, because wardens wont run out of power then ) , the only thing that makes them different is what heals are available to them and which ones to keep up. Most furies dont know how to heal or gear for healing so in turn, you get bad furies. Good ones can heal and still parse something decent. The only problems you have in high level pvp is having the right gear to keep people off you (averting eyes, fear, etc) because druids can be pretty vulnerable without it.

05-09-2009, 12:45 PM	#2
Ol Server: Nagafen Guild: Elusive Rank: Recruit General Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 502	Azureblaze wrote: Couple of questions guys, my friends and I may start on Naggy soon. It's going to be a duo or trio team. I'm thinking of playing either warden or fury. Say we had a dps scout type and a tank type (prolly sk or pally) in a trio + warden or fury what say you? What's best suited in this scenario for pve and pvp? Would the answer change if it was a just a brig + warden or fury? Thoughts? I know warden's are awesome healers however I like the DPS of a fury but if I'm in a trio I think maybe the warden may be better because of the better heals, and us already having DPS... at least for PVE..but well I'm not sure what the thoughts are for PVP , that's why I'm asking opinions. Also : Can someone point me to a good link that explains PVP rules / what’s different / factions? Last : Can you mentor someone on a PVP server? yes, but you cant fight back Thanks! One of the best trios is sk/enchanter/cleric. makes for a strong trio. but if you really want the druid, you could be fury in the lower levels for the dps, and betray to warden in the higher levels. you could also go mystic/inq, they can spec melee and still do some good dps, while still being able to heal __________________ I see said the blind man...

05-09-2009, 01:06 PM	#3
Razgriz Server: Venekor Guild: Eyes Of Darkness Rank: Raider Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 16	At lower levels, a Fury is going to be just as strong as a Warden for healing, and Strike of Thunder/Starburst lines put some serious hurt on your enemies. In the long run though, especially already having a DPS in the group, I'd go with Warden. The power efficiency is what really makes them shine, and if you still want to DPS the melee build works pretty well. One thing of note in PvP is, especially at endgame, the resist rates for spells can be really high. Furies lose a lot of damage potential when they hear the resist noise over and over. Crusaders are both very strong in PvP at the moment, so they'll make a great tank. Everyone and their grandmother is playing Shadowknights, so if you guys want to be a little different you might want to try Pally. Not as strong as SK, but they have some great tricks up their sleeve for holding aggro (Sigil force taunts enemy players to the pally 75% of the time on group members taking damage, locks them on for 3s per taunt trigger) and spike damage (Castigation is amazing if the timing is right). For your third, if you want a pure DPS scout, Assassins are nice but might have trouble stealth chaining if it's only a 3-man group (assuming you're planning on group v group fighting). Swashie might be a better choice, more surviviability as well as more AOE damage to pressure the healers. If you're taking a Pally along, they also debuff Divine. Brigs are a little less damage but they do a great job harrassing people with stuns and knockbacks. I wouldn't take Ranger, in a group you're going to want people close enough to heal and taunt off. Troub might be a nice third, while they do less DPS they still have the essential track and evac, but they give power regeneration and some crowd control- Charm lasts only a short time in pvp, but if you charm the right enemy it causes a lot of trouble. __________________ Razgriz, 90 Illusionist -Current Main. Lucais, 90 Inquisitor -Previous Main. Galeth, 86 Paladin -Nub Alt.

05-11-2009, 10:03 AM	#5
Kendayar Lord Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 295	See, it's better to ask someone who has played both on all levels because it's very, very, very likely someone gives you wrong information. I've done both at all levels so let's get some facts in. Both druids are roughly equal in healing power ( unless we're talking epic weapon, because wardens wont run out of power then ) , the only thing that makes them different is what heals are available to them and which ones to keep up. Most furies dont know how to heal or gear for healing so in turn, you get bad furies. Good ones can heal and still parse something decent. The only problems you have in high level pvp is having the right gear to keep people off you (averting eyes, fear, etc) because druids can be pretty vulnerable without it. __________________ There is a man riding a horse on my shirt.

05-09-2009, 07:03 AM	#1
Azureblaze Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	Couple of questions guys, my friends and I may start on Naggy soon. It's going to be a duo or trio team. I'm thinking of playing either warden or fury. Say we had a dps scout type and a tank type (prolly sk or pally) in a trio + warden or fury what say you? What's best suited in this scenario for pve and pvp? Would the answer change if it was a just a brig + warden or fury? Thoughts? I know warden's are awesome healers however I like the DPS of a fury but if I'm in a trio I think maybe the warden may be better because of the better heals, and us already having DPS... at least for PVE..but well I'm not sure what the thoughts are for PVP , that's why I'm asking opinions. Also : Can someone point me to a good link that explains PVP rules / what’s different / factions? Last : Can you mentor someone on a PVP server? Thanks!

05-09-2009, 04:42 PM	#4
Azureblaze Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 42	Thanks for the feedback, was actually thinking of starting a Fury and changing to Warden later. And thanks for good Trio feedback as well, I'll mention it to my friends.