Why no new Dooming Darkness Spell?

Trangoul · 07-21-2008, 05:07 AM

Why no t8 dooming darkness spell?Also I hate the Innoruuk theme for necromancers. the mage pet and the scout pet could've use more imagination IMO as well.

Sabutai · 07-21-2008, 10:58 AM

we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers.

Mew · 07-22-2008, 11:16 AM

...and as for the Innoruk them for necromancers - I have no idea what you are talking about. A necro's god is Cazic-Thule and anyone who says otherwise is a sissy

khanthemighty · 07-22-2008, 12:10 PM

CT? ...not Bertox? Why so...?

Vlahkmaak · 07-22-2008, 12:40 PM

Sabutai wrote:

we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers.

Dooming Darkness was introduced into the necro spell line up long before pvp became an option. As far as its utility in PVP it absolutely sucks. Dooming Darkness is a snare dot - it therefore breaks itself and or breaks as soon as you get 1-2 othr dots on target. The original devs stated somewhere (no i don't recall exactly where but I know others ahve read and can verrify or tweak my statement) that they did not want classes to have the ability to kite. This being said ALL scouts can kite quite well but necros cannot. You have to ask yourself why kiting is ok for some classes but not necros. Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either. Dooming Darkness needs to be upgraded to be a superior snare than scout snares and castable on the run - necro snaring is a eq1 class defining ability - here it is a worthless experience in getting added damage from lich proc.

I hhave a brigand, ranger, assassin, and a troub - my scout snares are superior in every way to the current necro snare. Yes I play on a pvp server but I was a blubie necro from eq2beta through pvp beta.

Sabutai · 07-22-2008, 12:50 PM

Vlahkmaak@Venekor wrote:

Sabutai wrote:
we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers.
Dooming Darkness was introduced into the necro spell line up long before pvp became an option. As far as its utility in PVP it absolutely sucks. Dooming Darkness is a snare dot - it therefore breaks itself and or breaks as soon as you get 1-2 othr dots on target. The original devs stated somewhere (no i don't recall exactly where but I know others ahve read and can verrify or tweak my statement) that they did not want classes to have the ability to kite. This being said ALL scouts can kite quite well but necros cannot. You have to ask yourself why kiting is ok for some classes but not necros. Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either. Dooming Darkness needs to be upgraded to be a superior snare than scout snares and castable on the run - necro snaring is a eq1 class defining ability - here it is a worthless experience in getting added damage from lich proc.
I hhave a brigand, ranger, assassin, and a troub - my scout snares are superior in every way to the current necro snare. Yes I play on a pvp server but I was a blubie necro from eq2beta through pvp beta.

if I recall correctly the DD line was introduced after launch, whether it was before PvP was introduced I can't recall offhand, but I thought it was before. It has been my belief that they just don't want necros to be able to kite like they did in eq1, kinda a shame since our counterparts get and long duration snare for their soloing. I'd be happy if they would just remove the snare component and just leave us with a quick casting dot.

Trangoul · 07-23-2008, 05:03 PM

I've been playing my Necro a few months before kingdom of sky and introduction of the PvP servers.As far as having Dooming Darkness could be useful in raids. It's just kinda lame to nerf Necros or leave out updatingdecent spell. They did the same thing Shadowknights with Deathmarch...which I like having a good Shadowknightthat Deathmarchs like no tomorrow!!Praise Bertoxxolus!!!

DwarvesR · 07-24-2008, 05:18 AM

It's a completely useless spell. The only reason to cast it is to proc lich.

I'm still using the initial spell at App1. Never bothered to upgrade it at all. It doesn't have the "resisability increased vs mobs level XX or higher" thing, so... never had a reason to waste the cash on it.

Paikis · 07-26-2008, 05:38 AM

Vlahkmaak@Venekor wrote:

Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either.

They do break though. I agree this spell is useless... not enough damage, and not a high enough snare % anyways.

PhoenixBroth · 07-29-2008, 02:39 AM

Agreed. The spell is useless except for a Lich proc. Side Note: Cazic-Thule for Necro Deity? Pfft. If you're going melee with the mob, maybe. Bertoxxulous all the way.

Mew · 07-31-2008, 09:04 AM

Yeah, I know - Bertox is the way to go. Just seeing if anyone was paying attention hence the

07-21-2008, 05:07 AM	#1
Trangoul Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Medieval Syndicate Rank: Squire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 14	Why no t8 dooming darkness spell?Also I hate the Innoruuk theme for necromancers. the mage pet and the scout pet could've use more imagination IMO as well. __________________ "Life brings death and death is the only savlation." The last words heard by a dying paladin begging for his life.

07-21-2008, 10:58 AM	#2
Sabutai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 640	we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers. __________________

07-22-2008, 12:40 PM	#5
Vlahkmaak Server: Venekor Guild: Opus Dei Rank: Captain Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,213	Sabutai wrote: we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers. Dooming Darkness was introduced into the necro spell line up long before pvp became an option. As far as its utility in PVP it absolutely sucks. Dooming Darkness is a snare dot - it therefore breaks itself and or breaks as soon as you get 1-2 othr dots on target. The original devs stated somewhere (no i don't recall exactly where but I know others ahve read and can verrify or tweak my statement) that they did not want classes to have the ability to kite. This being said ALL scouts can kite quite well but necros cannot. You have to ask yourself why kiting is ok for some classes but not necros. Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either. Dooming Darkness needs to be upgraded to be a superior snare than scout snares and castable on the run - necro snaring is a eq1 class defining ability - here it is a worthless experience in getting added damage from lich proc. I hhave a brigand, ranger, assassin, and a troub - my scout snares are superior in every way to the current necro snare. Yes I play on a pvp server but I was a blubie necro from eq2beta through pvp beta. __________________ Obin 92 Iksar Necro Opus Dei Nagafen Vlahkmaak 92 Troll Guardian Nagafen Dwyrm 92 Dwarf Paladin Nagafen Shoofaug 92 Iksar bruiser Nagafen Vlah 92 Troll Inqy Nagafen Vlahk 50 SK Nagafen Glavlahnus 92 Woodelf Ranger, betrayed and back again Cructik 92 TROLL BL Nagafen

07-22-2008, 12:50 PM	#6
Sabutai Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 640	Vlahkmaak@Venekor wrote: Sabutai wrote: we were never meant to have a snare, this spell was discontinued because they only wanted this for PvP servers. Dooming Darkness was introduced into the necro spell line up long before pvp became an option. As far as its utility in PVP it absolutely sucks. Dooming Darkness is a snare dot - it therefore breaks itself and or breaks as soon as you get 1-2 othr dots on target. The original devs stated somewhere (no i don't recall exactly where but I know others ahve read and can verrify or tweak my statement) that they did not want classes to have the ability to kite. This being said ALL scouts can kite quite well but necros cannot. You have to ask yourself why kiting is ok for some classes but not necros. Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either. Dooming Darkness needs to be upgraded to be a superior snare than scout snares and castable on the run - necro snaring is a eq1 class defining ability - here it is a worthless experience in getting added damage from lich proc. I hhave a brigand, ranger, assassin, and a troub - my scout snares are superior in every way to the current necro snare. Yes I play on a pvp server but I was a blubie necro from eq2beta through pvp beta. if I recall correctly the DD line was introduced after launch, whether it was before PvP was introduced I can't recall offhand, but I thought it was before. It has been my belief that they just don't want necros to be able to kite like they did in eq1, kinda a shame since our counterparts get and long duration snare for their soloing. I'd be happy if they would just remove the snare component and just leave us with a quick casting dot. __________________

07-23-2008, 05:03 PM	#7
Trangoul Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Medieval Syndicate Rank: Squire Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 14	I've been playing my Necro a few months before kingdom of sky and introduction of the PvP servers.As far as having Dooming Darkness could be useful in raids. It's just kinda lame to nerf Necros or leave out updatingdecent spell. They did the same thing Shadowknights with Deathmarch...which I like having a good Shadowknightthat Deathmarchs like no tomorrow!!Praise Bertoxxolus!!! __________________ "Life brings death and death is the only savlation." The last words heard by a dying paladin begging for his life.

07-22-2008, 11:16 AM	#3
Mew General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 488	...and as for the Innoruk them for necromancers - I have no idea what you are talking about. A necro's god is Cazic-Thule and anyone who says otherwise is a sissy

07-22-2008, 12:10 PM	#4
khanthemighty Loremaster Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 51	CT? ...not Bertox? Why so...?

07-24-2008, 05:18 AM	#8
DwarvesR General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,390	It's a completely useless spell. The only reason to cast it is to proc lich. I'm still using the initial spell at App1. Never bothered to upgrade it at all. It doesn't have the "resisability increased vs mobs level XX or higher" thing, so... never had a reason to waste the cash on it. __________________ Jonna - 78 Inquisitor, Keodan - 77 Fury, Elynna - 90 Coercer, Clarisse - 90 ShadowKnight, Gotter - 90 Warlock, Kyeda - 66 Necromancer, Spirrita - 66 Defiler, Darlana - 75 Dirge, Meylota - 54 Warden, Guuk - 60 Monk, Briarra - 55 Brigand, Dactylus - 51 Mystic

07-26-2008, 05:38 AM	#9
Paikis Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,254	Vlahkmaak@Venekor wrote: Scout snares do not break themselvs like the necro snare either. They do break though. I agree this spell is useless... not enough damage, and not a high enough snare % anyways. __________________ Kaelas, Necromancer Valindor, Templar Paikis, Troubador Ashk, Berserker Mirbolt, Shadowknight

07-29-2008, 02:39 AM	#10
PhoenixBroth General Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10	Agreed. The spell is useless except for a Lich proc. Side Note: Cazic-Thule for Necro Deity? Pfft. If you're going melee with the mob, maybe. Bertoxxulous all the way. __________________ "From demons and curses shall your mind cower; into this mix I pour in my power. Stir in thy brain, and feel the effects, of all I send thee in mental distress." - Shade, Guk's resident Halfling Illusionist

07-31-2008, 09:04 AM	#11
Mew General Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 488	Yeah, I know - Bertox is the way to go. Just seeing if anyone was paying attention hence the