I have read forums, still can't decide, help me out

Dalainn · 08-07-2007, 07:58 PM

Hi guys! I would like some input from you solo Wardens out there. See the thing is I rarely get a chance to play and when I do, I like to knock out a couple quest and maybe do some named mobs. I pretty much solo 95% of the time and rarely will I group at all. With that being said I need help since I can't decide at all on AA's for purely solo / named killing. I know many people tell me go Fury but I like the Warden and its what I have fun with and don't really care who is faster at exping. Also as a soloing Warden what is your advice on stats? Do I focus on WIS>STR>INT or something else? I really am kinda lost with this and want to get it perfect, I simply dont have time to start another toon all over again. Your replies are appreciated thanks.

Skivley101 · 08-07-2007, 08:22 PM

Hmmm .... its not as easy as 123 to tell you specifically what works well ... since you didnt say what lvl or how many AA's your at ...im going to assume your in the teens or there abouts with very few AA's?

Right now wisdom would help you out more than anything ... and that mele root attack right after 4 pts in wisdom is nice too.

with 5 free respecs on the druid tree & who knows howmany more special resets theyll give us with all this updateing ... you can respec into the Str or Int line later if you want to go that route. Or with a few more pts the agi line for pet charming can be had with realativley few pts , wich can be fun and useful in the lower lvls.

Into the higher lvls though, for taking down names or even dealing with multiple mobs, it is important to keep your roots up to snuff, or even enhance em.

I have a str/int spec right now with roots enhanced , I find it useful and fun for mixing it up when im soloing.

If you can be more specific about where your at & what you want out of the game. Could give some better advice.

Dalainn · 08-07-2007, 08:31 PM

Skivley101 wrote:

Hmmm .... its not as easy as 123 to tell you specifically what works well ... since you didnt say what lvl or how many AA's your at ...im going to assume your in the teens or there abouts with very few AA's?
Right now wisdom would help you out more than anything ... and that mele root attack right after 4 pts in wisdom is nice too.
with 5 free respecs on the druid tree & who knows howmany more special resets theyll give us with all this updateing ... you can respec into the Str or Int line later if you want to go that route. Or with a few more pts the agi line for pet charming can be had with realativley few pts , wich can be fun and useful in the lower lvls.
Into the higher lvls though, for taking down names or even dealing with multiple mobs, it is important to keep your roots up to snuff, or even enhance em.
I have a str/int spec right now with roots enhanced , I find it useful and fun for mixing it up when im soloing.
If you can be more specific about where your at & what you want out of the game. Could give some better advice.

Yeah sorry about that. I am 21 with 15 AA's atm and I haven't spent not even 1. As far as what I want out of this game, well I want to quest solo / kill named in the very little time I have when I log in. I don't want to level super fast I just to level at a decent speed when I get the chance to play. I don't plan to raid end-game because I am not a raider I only play to explore and I guess have fun. Hope I didn't miss anything out.

Skivley101 · 08-07-2007, 08:48 PM

Well at that many AA's Ill bet youd have fun with the pet charming if you like that sorta thing ? And take the charm pet to rank 4 atleast ... Try charming some yellow cons & see if you need to make it higher. Just remember when charming pets , they turn into even conned (no arrows) no matter if they are vvv or ^^^ .... so charm a vvv if ya can ... stay away from ^^^ , cuz if they brk you are in trouble.

But if charming pets isnt your cup of tea ? Then youll probly want to pick the str or int tree, Unless you start having pwr problems, inwhich case the wisdom line would be better.

My point for just focusing on the druid tree though is that you have the 5 free respecs on that tree ... so you can try a few things out before you start putting pts into the warden tree .... Unless ofcourse you know you want the CA's no matter what, Then you can take them now ...and build the druid str line later to enhance the CA's

Dalainn · 08-07-2007, 08:55 PM

Skivley101 wrote:

Well at that many AA's Ill bet youd have fun with the pet charming if you like that sorta thing ? And take the charm pet to rank 4 atleast ... Try charming some yellow cons & see if you need to make it higher. Just remember when charming pets , they turn into even conned (no arrows) no matter if they are vvv or ^^^ .... so charm a vvv if ya can ... stay away from ^^^ , cuz if they brk you are in trouble.
But if charming pets isnt your cup of tea ? Then youll probly want to pick the str or int tree, Unless you start having pwr problems, inwhich case the wisdom line would be better.
My point for just focusing on the druid tree though is that you have the 5 free respecs on that tree ... so you can try a few things out before you start putting pts into the warden tree .... Unless ofcourse you know you want the CA's no matter what, Then you can take them now ...and build the druid str line later to enhance the CA's

I think I will take your advice and do CA's now since i know I enjoy the melee aspect of it. I will then hit my STR line like you mentioned. One more thing what about gear stats? If i am going into CA's and taking STR line then my gear stats should be STR>WIS>INT? Again tyvm for ur input

Skivley101 · 08-07-2007, 09:11 PM

well just Str&Wis would be the only ones id worry about for now ... But Int,Sta,Agi are still important , as are having resists. The rank of your spell is going to have a far greater impact right now than how much int you have to deal the dmg.

And i also suggest taking the minimums in fire strike & cold strike then build your AoE up to max and your wolf form before maxing the first two.

Dont mess with the Cold dot CA untill after you get alot more pts if you want it. But make sure your disruption skill stays max for less resisting on the spell version

Then by all means take the 75% mele crits asap ...it is the single largest dmg boost to the warden.

Dalainn · 08-07-2007, 09:23 PM

Skivley101 wrote:

well just Str&Wis would be the only ones id worry about for now ... But Int,Sta,Agi are still important , as are having resists. The rank of your spell is going to have a far greater impact right now than how much int you have to deal the dmg.
And i also suggest taking the minimums in fire strike & cold strike then build your AoE up to max and your wolf form before maxing the first two.
Dont mess with the Cold dot CA untill after you get alot more pts if you want it. But make sure your disruption skill stays max for less resisting on the spell version
Then by all means take the 75% mele crits asap ...it is the single largest dmg boost to the warden.

Yeah str+wis gear is hard to find but atleast now I have a sense of direction with my AA's. You have been great help SMILEY

Skivley101 · 08-07-2007, 09:25 PM

Egads!!! ....i forgot to mention the CA's will be very ineffective if your crushing,slashing arent maxed. Just go smack some grey cons on auto attack and walk away to level em up if it isnt. And at lvl 26 i think it is...youll get a single target buff for those skills. Will make it no worry at all.

Skivley101 · 08-08-2007, 05:38 AM

To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted

The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted

Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons...

Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill SMILEY ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root.

It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face.

And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls .

And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing SMILEY

Dalainn · 08-08-2007, 08:03 AM

Skivley101 wrote:

To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted
The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted
Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons...
Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root.
It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face.
And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls .
And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing

Well money is an issue because TSing right now Tier2 doesn't really bring in that much cash. Also my gear is not that great so I usually just get quested gear and hopefully later on this will get better. I see what you mean about slashing/crushing and yeah its maxed atm, the only thing I have a hard time caping (its like 30 points below cap) is subj and I know this is important to get is maxed so it won't get resisted. Thing is I have no idea whats the best way to level subj at my level. I have tried to cast it over and over and like after 30 cast I dont even see 1 level. Other than that great feedback and thx for the added info.

Arielle Nightshade · 08-08-2007, 03:21 PM

If you mostly prefer being out and about adventuring...make a deal with craftspeople to gather raws for them in exchange for items. Not only are you out there anyway, but by gathering and selling or trading, you have chance to be gathering the needed rares to make your upgraded equipment and spells.

Most people just taking up Tinkering, for example...would be pleased to trade Leaded Loams (from Tier 1 areas) for stuff - cause they are so expensive on the broker, but can't level up without either paying a ton for them or taking the time to go gather them for themselves.

In this way you don't have to endure a tradeskill that (to be honest) really doesn't have much use in the higher levels since even easily dropped items are far superior to crafted ones (post 60). It's disappointing (says this Tailor/Alchemist), but that's how they have decided loot vs. crafted stuff will be. (Whole nother post).

Until you get to some of that nice loot though, the arrangement with crafters for all the stuff you might need could come in handy.

Skivley101 · 08-08-2007, 10:16 PM

Dalainn wrote:

Skivley101 wrote:
To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted
The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted
Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons...
Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root.
It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face.
And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls .
And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing
Well money is an issue because TSing right now Tier2 doesn't really bring in that much cash. Also my gear is not that great so I usually just get quested gear and hopefully later on this will get better. I see what you mean about slashing/crushing and yeah its maxed atm, the only thing I have a hard time caping (its like 30 points below cap) is subj and I know this is important to get is maxed so it won't get resisted. Thing is I have no idea whats the best way to level subj at my level. I have tried to cast it over and over and like after 30 cast I dont even see 1 level. Other than that great feedback and thx for the added info.

The subj skill is also the snare and the deagro root .... casting these 3 on grey mobs will lvl the skill faster than when it gets resisted ...

Im pretty sure the skill advance mechanic works when you succsessfully land a spell not cast it.

Practice makes Perfect ... SMILEY

Ps... yes making deals with the tinkering bunch is usually always profitable ... untill you hit lvl 50 - 60 ...then like Arie said ...i dont know what happens ??? ... they wrote it like that ?>>> who are they SMILEY SMILEY

08-07-2007, 08:22 PM	#2
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	Hmmm .... its not as easy as 123 to tell you specifically what works well ... since you didnt say what lvl or how many AA's your at ...im going to assume your in the teens or there abouts with very few AA's? Right now wisdom would help you out more than anything ... and that mele root attack right after 4 pts in wisdom is nice too. with 5 free respecs on the druid tree & who knows howmany more special resets theyll give us with all this updateing ... you can respec into the Str or Int line later if you want to go that route. Or with a few more pts the agi line for pet charming can be had with realativley few pts , wich can be fun and useful in the lower lvls. Into the higher lvls though, for taking down names or even dealing with multiple mobs, it is important to keep your roots up to snuff, or even enhance em. I have a str/int spec right now with roots enhanced , I find it useful and fun for mixing it up when im soloing. If you can be more specific about where your at & what you want out of the game. Could give some better advice. __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker

08-07-2007, 08:31 PM	#3
Dalainn Defender Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Skivley101 wrote: Hmmm .... its not as easy as 123 to tell you specifically what works well ... since you didnt say what lvl or how many AA's your at ...im going to assume your in the teens or there abouts with very few AA's? Right now wisdom would help you out more than anything ... and that mele root attack right after 4 pts in wisdom is nice too. with 5 free respecs on the druid tree & who knows howmany more special resets theyll give us with all this updateing ... you can respec into the Str or Int line later if you want to go that route. Or with a few more pts the agi line for pet charming can be had with realativley few pts , wich can be fun and useful in the lower lvls. Into the higher lvls though, for taking down names or even dealing with multiple mobs, it is important to keep your roots up to snuff, or even enhance em. I have a str/int spec right now with roots enhanced , I find it useful and fun for mixing it up when im soloing. If you can be more specific about where your at & what you want out of the game. Could give some better advice. Yeah sorry about that. I am 21 with 15 AA's atm and I haven't spent not even 1. As far as what I want out of this game, well I want to quest solo / kill named in the very little time I have when I log in. I don't want to level super fast I just to level at a decent speed when I get the chance to play. I don't plan to raid end-game because I am not a raider I only play to explore and I guess have fun. Hope I didn't miss anything out.

08-07-2007, 08:48 PM	#4
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	Well at that many AA's Ill bet youd have fun with the pet charming if you like that sorta thing ? And take the charm pet to rank 4 atleast ... Try charming some yellow cons & see if you need to make it higher. Just remember when charming pets , they turn into even conned (no arrows) no matter if they are vvv or ^^^ .... so charm a vvv if ya can ... stay away from ^^^ , cuz if they brk you are in trouble. But if charming pets isnt your cup of tea ? Then youll probly want to pick the str or int tree, Unless you start having pwr problems, inwhich case the wisdom line would be better. My point for just focusing on the druid tree though is that you have the 5 free respecs on that tree ... so you can try a few things out before you start putting pts into the warden tree .... Unless ofcourse you know you want the CA's no matter what, Then you can take them now ...and build the druid str line later to enhance the CA's __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker

08-07-2007, 08:55 PM	#5
Dalainn Defender Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Skivley101 wrote: Well at that many AA's Ill bet youd have fun with the pet charming if you like that sorta thing ? And take the charm pet to rank 4 atleast ... Try charming some yellow cons & see if you need to make it higher. Just remember when charming pets , they turn into even conned (no arrows) no matter if they are vvv or ^^^ .... so charm a vvv if ya can ... stay away from ^^^ , cuz if they brk you are in trouble. But if charming pets isnt your cup of tea ? Then youll probly want to pick the str or int tree, Unless you start having pwr problems, inwhich case the wisdom line would be better. My point for just focusing on the druid tree though is that you have the 5 free respecs on that tree ... so you can try a few things out before you start putting pts into the warden tree .... Unless ofcourse you know you want the CA's no matter what, Then you can take them now ...and build the druid str line later to enhance the CA's I think I will take your advice and do CA's now since i know I enjoy the melee aspect of it. I will then hit my STR line like you mentioned. One more thing what about gear stats? If i am going into CA's and taking STR line then my gear stats should be STR>WIS>INT? Again tyvm for ur input

08-07-2007, 09:11 PM	#6
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	well just Str&Wis would be the only ones id worry about for now ... But Int,Sta,Agi are still important , as are having resists. The rank of your spell is going to have a far greater impact right now than how much int you have to deal the dmg. And i also suggest taking the minimums in fire strike & cold strike then build your AoE up to max and your wolf form before maxing the first two. Dont mess with the Cold dot CA untill after you get alot more pts if you want it. But make sure your disruption skill stays max for less resisting on the spell version Then by all means take the 75% mele crits asap ...it is the single largest dmg boost to the warden. __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker

08-07-2007, 07:58 PM	#1
Dalainn Defender Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Hi guys! I would like some input from you solo Wardens out there. See the thing is I rarely get a chance to play and when I do, I like to knock out a couple quest and maybe do some named mobs. I pretty much solo 95% of the time and rarely will I group at all. With that being said I need help since I can't decide at all on AA's for purely solo / named killing. I know many people tell me go Fury but I like the Warden and its what I have fun with and don't really care who is faster at exping. Also as a soloing Warden what is your advice on stats? Do I focus on WIS>STR>INT or something else? I really am kinda lost with this and want to get it perfect, I simply dont have time to start another toon all over again. Your replies are appreciated thanks.

08-07-2007, 09:23 PM	#7
Dalainn Defender Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Skivley101 wrote: well just Str&Wis would be the only ones id worry about for now ... But Int,Sta,Agi are still important , as are having resists. The rank of your spell is going to have a far greater impact right now than how much int you have to deal the dmg. And i also suggest taking the minimums in fire strike & cold strike then build your AoE up to max and your wolf form before maxing the first two. Dont mess with the Cold dot CA untill after you get alot more pts if you want it. But make sure your disruption skill stays max for less resisting on the spell version Then by all means take the 75% mele crits asap ...it is the single largest dmg boost to the warden. Yeah str+wis gear is hard to find but atleast now I have a sense of direction with my AA's. You have been great help

08-07-2007, 09:25 PM	#8
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	Egads!!! ....i forgot to mention the CA's will be very ineffective if your crushing,slashing arent maxed. Just go smack some grey cons on auto attack and walk away to level em up if it isnt. And at lvl 26 i think it is...youll get a single target buff for those skills. Will make it no worry at all. __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker

08-08-2007, 05:38 AM	#9
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons... Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root. It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face. And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls . And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker

08-08-2007, 08:03 AM	#10
Dalainn Defender Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Skivley101 wrote: To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons... Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root. It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face. And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls . And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing Well money is an issue because TSing right now Tier2 doesn't really bring in that much cash. Also my gear is not that great so I usually just get quested gear and hopefully later on this will get better. I see what you mean about slashing/crushing and yeah its maxed atm, the only thing I have a hard time caping (its like 30 points below cap) is subj and I know this is important to get is maxed so it won't get resisted. Thing is I have no idea whats the best way to level subj at my level. I have tried to cast it over and over and like after 30 cast I dont even see 1 level. Other than that great feedback and thx for the added info.

08-08-2007, 03:21 PM	#11
Arielle Nightshade Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,727	If you mostly prefer being out and about adventuring...make a deal with craftspeople to gather raws for them in exchange for items. Not only are you out there anyway, but by gathering and selling or trading, you have chance to be gathering the needed rares to make your upgraded equipment and spells. Most people just taking up Tinkering, for example...would be pleased to trade Leaded Loams (from Tier 1 areas) for stuff - cause they are so expensive on the broker, but can't level up without either paying a ton for them or taking the time to go gather them for themselves. In this way you don't have to endure a tradeskill that (to be honest) really doesn't have much use in the higher levels since even easily dropped items are far superior to crafted ones (post 60). It's disappointing (says this Tailor/Alchemist), but that's how they have decided loot vs. crafted stuff will be. (Whole nother post). Until you get to some of that nice loot though, the arrangement with crafters for all the stuff you might need could come in handy.

08-08-2007, 10:16 PM	#12
Skivley101 Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: @ the desk Posts: 1,051	Dalainn wrote: Skivley101 wrote: To be more specific ....you will find if your skills are sub par (slashing/crushing) that you miss,get parried & riposted The CA's will take the full reuse time to come up again where as the spells have a 2 sec reuse if they get resisted Im not sure what the curve is at for your lvl ... But getting your particlular skill (weapon of choice) up to your level cap will greatly increase the dmg you deal ...hence not as long a fight or even dieing ... so im sorry if your meleing your heart away right now but cant kill those blue cons... Try some rooting ...its not like you wont need subjugation skill ... and remember you can stack your snare with the snare portion of the root. It will give you a little more time to figure out what you wana do before theyer in your face. And also you didnt say if money was an issue ...if you can afford it buy a wis/str/sta hex doll ... in that order ...they are great for softening up the mob a bit... if you can keep em rooted long enough to put 3 debuffs on em ... youll notice a difference...or just pull with one of the hex dolls . And now im rambeling ... So have fun ...Thats the main thing Well money is an issue because TSing right now Tier2 doesn't really bring in that much cash. Also my gear is not that great so I usually just get quested gear and hopefully later on this will get better. I see what you mean about slashing/crushing and yeah its maxed atm, the only thing I have a hard time caping (its like 30 points below cap) is subj and I know this is important to get is maxed so it won't get resisted. Thing is I have no idea whats the best way to level subj at my level. I have tried to cast it over and over and like after 30 cast I dont even see 1 level. Other than that great feedback and thx for the added info. The subj skill is also the snare and the deagro root .... casting these 3 on grey mobs will lvl the skill faster than when it gets resisted ... Im pretty sure the skill advance mechanic works when you succsessfully land a spell not cast it. Practice makes Perfect ... Ps... yes making deals with the tinkering bunch is usually always profitable ... untill you hit lvl 50 - 60 ...then like Arie said ...i dont know what happens ??? ... they wrote it like that ?>>> who are they __________________ Barbarian~ LvL 75 Warden ,LvL 75 Provisioner, LvL 101 smak talker