Brigand ability blocking punch blade

Kokus · 10-30-2005, 07:48 AM

I was in a raid earlier today, and every once in awhile I'd use my punch blade master 2 and I'd get the message that It would not take affect. Looking at the chat box it says it's already under the influence of a more powerful ability. (I was the only assassin in the raid, the only other scouts were a troubador and brigand)

This happened on and off during many many fights, and I was tryng to narrow it down to what exactly was causing the problem. After an hour or so, the brigand had to leave, and for the next 2 hours on, I never recieved that message again. Does anyone know what ability is stopping our punch blade? I'll try and figure it out with my guild brigand some time tomorrow, but if anyone just happens to know already, please post. This is a devastating hit to our dps if we can't use one of our best abilities.

Aral · 10-30-2005, 08:24 PM

The only thing I can imagine is that our Run Through's strength debuff effect is blocking your punch blade. Run Through is our only stealth attack, also on 10 second timer (lot of good that does with a 1 min recast fast sneak), and also has a 24 or 30 second duration strength debuff. Sounds like they based one spell off the other, and the debuff is blocking your skill.

dea · 10-30-2005, 11:43 PM

Yes, the Run Through like is an upgrade of the Ambush combat art line as is Punch Blade. I wouldn't expect the powers to block each other however, the CU change supposedly stopped the [Removed for Content] of debuffs attached to combat art lines so I was as surprised as Elvan when he mentioned this last night.

MystaSkrat · 10-31-2005, 12:25 AM

The biggest problem with this is: Punch Blade doesn't even have a debuff attached to it anymore.... so it's blocking nothing but pure DD. Makes no sense at all

SmEaGoLLuM · 10-31-2005, 12:26 PM

Well if this is true, I hope the devs read this and look into it. (even if they do it silently hehe)

ERROR · 11-01-2005, 08:29 PM

Is Swifty gettin you down elvan hehehe I've never heard that before...maybe i'll see if it happens to any of our assassins....like Riot maybe hahaha

Kokus · 11-02-2005, 10:18 AM

I grouped with him again the next day and didn't have a single issue with punch blade. It was just that 1 night in Silent City. I need to somehow reproduce whatever was happening that night.. Please, if anyone else has had a similar problem, please post the circumstances.

As for Swifty, Brigands rule, nuff said.

Aral · 11-03-2005, 06:03 AM

Something fishy is going on. Just last night, I had my _debilitate_ blocked by something. Now I know no other scouts get anything similar, there isn't even a line, it's one skill first awarded at 50. I'm the only brigand in the zone at the time (which is normal SMILEY

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Gyilok · 11-03-2005, 07:13 PM

you probably had debilitate double-upped, that always blocks every debuff (if you have double up atleast at adept3)until the double upped version expires (shrouded blade, revoke, debilitate, murderous rake etc)

but you should take this to our tiny little brigand forum SMILEY

Message Edited by Gyilok on 11-03-2005 06:16 AM

ERROR · 11-20-2005, 09:14 PM

Tiny Brigand forum? *Cry* I'm gunna go avoid some ae's or somethin =P I play a 60 Brigand, my b/f plays a 60 assassin, I've heard it all =P Auxxie Oh and Elvan yes Brigands are awesome =)

pczry · 11-21-2005, 12:50 AM

thinking bout making a brigand, there is only 1 lvl 60 on my server.

10-30-2005, 07:48 AM	#1
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	I was in a raid earlier today, and every once in awhile I'd use my punch blade master 2 and I'd get the message that It would not take affect. Looking at the chat box it says it's already under the influence of a more powerful ability. (I was the only assassin in the raid, the only other scouts were a troubador and brigand) This happened on and off during many many fights, and I was tryng to narrow it down to what exactly was causing the problem. After an hour or so, the brigand had to leave, and for the next 2 hours on, I never recieved that message again. Does anyone know what ability is stopping our punch blade? I'll try and figure it out with my guild brigand some time tomorrow, but if anyone just happens to know already, please post. This is a devastating hit to our dps if we can't use one of our best abilities. __________________

10-31-2005, 12:25 AM	#4
MystaSkrat Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 693	The biggest problem with this is: Punch Blade doesn't even have a debuff attached to it anymore.... so it's blocking nothing but pure DD. Makes no sense at all __________________

11-02-2005, 10:18 AM	#7
Kokus General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 338	I grouped with him again the next day and didn't have a single issue with punch blade. It was just that 1 night in Silent City. I need to somehow reproduce whatever was happening that night.. Please, if anyone else has had a similar problem, please post the circumstances. As for Swifty, Brigands rule, nuff said. __________________

11-03-2005, 06:03 AM	#8
Aral General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 381	Something fishy is going on. Just last night, I had my _debilitate_ blocked by something. Now I know no other scouts get anything similar, there isn't even a line, it's one skill first awarded at 50. I'm the only brigand in the zone at the time (which is normal )

11-03-2005, 07:13 PM	#9
Gyilok Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 696	you probably had debilitate double-upped, that always blocks every debuff (if you have double up atleast at adept3)until the double upped version expires (shrouded blade, revoke, debilitate, murderous rake etc) but you should take this to our tiny little brigand forum Message Edited by Gyilok on 11-03-2005 06:16 AM __________________ Stizeyo

10-30-2005, 08:24 PM	#2
Aral General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 381	The only thing I can imagine is that our Run Through's strength debuff effect is blocking your punch blade. Run Through is our only stealth attack, also on 10 second timer (lot of good that does with a 1 min recast fast sneak), and also has a 24 or 30 second duration strength debuff. Sounds like they based one spell off the other, and the debuff is blocking your skill.

10-30-2005, 11:43 PM	#3
dea Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 427	Yes, the Run Through like is an upgrade of the Ambush combat art line as is Punch Blade. I wouldn't expect the powers to block each other however, the CU change supposedly stopped the [Removed for Content] of debuffs attached to combat art lines so I was as surprised as Elvan when he mentioned this last night.

10-31-2005, 12:26 PM	#5
SmEaGoLLuM General Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 389	Well if this is true, I hope the devs read this and look into it. (even if they do it silently hehe)

11-01-2005, 08:29 PM	#6
ERROR Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 88	Is Swifty gettin you down elvan hehehe I've never heard that before...maybe i'll see if it happens to any of our assassins....like Riot maybe hahaha

11-20-2005, 09:14 PM	#10
ERROR Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast Posts: 88	Tiny Brigand forum? Cry I'm gunna go avoid some ae's or somethin =P I play a 60 Brigand, my b/f plays a 60 assassin, I've heard it all =P Auxxie Oh and Elvan yes Brigands are awesome =)

11-21-2005, 12:50 AM	#11
pczry Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 180	thinking bout making a brigand, there is only 1 lvl 60 on my server. __________________