When will i start to do good damage?

Kazdun · 10-09-2005, 09:41 AM

Right now my ranger is 15. I have a 17 brawler as well, and well, the brawler completely destroys the predator in dps. I can safely say he does at least double, if not triple the damage. And tanks 100x better. Now i know im not the ranger yet, but thats what ill plan to do. But its kind of depressing to be this weak this early. Im just curious when i start to get the huge damage boost. I hear that rangers/assassins are the top dps class for melee. So when will i pass up the damage my brawler does?

King Leor · 10-09-2005, 10:23 AM

When a ranger is higher level you will begin to dominate pretty mush cany class in damage. I remeber being around level 30 in runny eye and the guardian tanking for us is doing the same damage as myself. But the later levels you will see a huge improvement. I myself am a levle 60 ranger and I have several procs on me at all time with CA's that do huge dmg. To start off we have procs on us at all time. Our best passive proc is archers frenzy which has a 30% chance to do 500 dmg, than my poison is a 25% chance to do 472 dmg (with poison debuff on mobs it can do over 500 dmg) than there are procs from weapons, roughly 300 dmg gleaming strike proc, prismatic proc dmg or imbued weapon do a few hundred than I also have my shield which procs good dmg and decreases mobs STR by 35. So your looking at 5 different procs there on any given hit. (and with archery these proc very often more so than meleeing the mob). So when using a spell like triple fire each arrow will hit for say 200, 400 than 600 dmg. than with procs going off with each arrow than one shot alone on average does over 3k dmg easy. We than have stealthy fire which is about 2k dmg, than dire blade which is almost 2k dmg, snipers shot is 6k dmg but 15 min timer. Culling the weak which is 1400 dmg roughly, than other bow attacks that will do anywhere from 300-800 dmg. so take all these add procs to each one and auto attack archery inbetween and your looking at HUGE dmg. we also get a great spell at lvl 55 which allows us to shoot an arrow every 1.5 seconds that will do about 600 dmg and procs a hell of alot. so on average with this spell you can easily do 1000 dmg every second for 30 seconds. than recast again 30 seconds later once you have used up all your CA's again. So in the end ranger DPS is one of the very best in game and you can definately look forward to some improvments. Not to mention soloing ^^^ mobs is pretty easy once you have all your spells. Hope this isn't to confusing for you. just took the #'s from what I remeber in game as im not logged in atm. And hopefully it helps. :0)

Leoric

Level 60 ranger

Morgonn · 10-09-2005, 07:14 PM

At 18 to 20 you will start getting the CA's that are the bread and butter of rangers. I strongly suggest upgrading those as possible (they are worth it!). You will notice a steady dps increase from 20 on and at 35 my ranger does seriously impressive amounts of damage, both with a bow and with hand weapons. As for tanking, rangers don't do that well and mine still doesn't...but thats no big deal considering the fact that most mobs are dead or near dead by the time they get to him :smileyvery-happy: Just hang in and keep working on him if that's the class you enjoy. It gets lots better.

Sural_Argonus · 10-10-2005, 08:04 PM

Morgonn wrote:
At 18 to 20 you will start getting the CA's that are the bread and butter of rangers. I strongly suggest upgrading those as possible (they are worth it!). You will notice a steady dps increase from 20 on and at 35 my ranger does seriously impressive amounts of damage, both with a bow and with hand weapons. As for tanking, rangers don't do that well and mine still doesn't...but thats no big deal considering the fact that most mobs are dead or near dead by the time they get to him :smileyvery-happy: Just hang in and keep working on him if that's the class you enjoy. It gets lots better.

I tend to agree.

While we aren't the best at tanking...never really were supposed to in the first place. But our avoidance and agility make is so we can handle aggro for a short time.

Right now at level 29 (just a mere 20% from 30) I tend to start out with a 700 damage+ stealth attack. Then move on to the melee CAs....then use cheap shot, to dizzy the target, and if successful, I run behind and slam with postitional attack that stealths me, and then use the stealth attack I have at Master 2. most mobs don't last long. If I am in a group...I just hang back and lob arrows or start HOs, or jsut hit positional attacks....and hope the tank is good enough to maintain aggro.

Muad-d · 10-10-2005, 09:34 PM

well I'm 33 and noone i know of at my level can out damage me SMILEY

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The problem with rangers is you a) really need to be in a group b) need a good tank in that group.

Saihung23 · 10-10-2005, 09:46 PM

Kazdun wrote:Right now my ranger is 15. I have a 17 brawler as well, and well, the brawler completely destroys the predator in dps. I can safely say he does at least double, if not triple the damage. And tanks 100x better. Now i know im not the ranger yet, but thats what ill plan to do. But its kind of depressing to be this weak this early. Im just curious when i start to get the huge damage boost. I hear that rangers/assassins are the top dps class for melee. So when will i pass up the damage my brawler does?

Neither one of the char.'s you are playing right now are the same as they will be in say 5-10 levels. Once you achieve your subclass that is when you will start fighting like that class. As of right now on Faydark Server I rank in the top 400 in melee damage and I am level 41. All things considered I look at that as a big accomplishment for my level. Ranger DPS is much better than a tanks DPS.

Korb · 10-10-2005, 09:50 PM

I hit the top 1k on my server at 27. So, I'm pretty happy. SMILEY

Message Edited by Korben on 10-10-2005 01:51 PM

10-10-2005, 08:04 PM	#4
Sural_Argonus Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Argonia Posts: 122	Morgonn wrote: At 18 to 20 you will start getting the CA's that are the bread and butter of rangers. I strongly suggest upgrading those as possible (they are worth it!). You will notice a steady dps increase from 20 on and at 35 my ranger does seriously impressive amounts of damage, both with a bow and with hand weapons. As for tanking, rangers don't do that well and mine still doesn't...but thats no big deal considering the fact that most mobs are dead or near dead by the time they get to him :smileyvery-happy: Just hang in and keep working on him if that's the class you enjoy. It gets lots better. I tend to agree. While we aren't the best at tanking...never really were supposed to in the first place. But our avoidance and agility make is so we can handle aggro for a short time. Right now at level 29 (just a mere 20% from 30) I tend to start out with a 700 damage+ stealth attack. Then move on to the melee CAs....then use cheap shot, to dizzy the target, and if successful, I run behind and slam with postitional attack that stealths me, and then use the stealth attack I have at Master 2. most mobs don't last long. If I am in a group...I just hang back and lob arrows or start HOs, or jsut hit positional attacks....and hope the tank is good enough to maintain aggro. __________________ Professional Lobber of Arrows Sig unavailable

10-10-2005, 09:34 PM	#5
Muad-d Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7	well I'm 33 and noone i know of at my level can out damage me . The problem with rangers is you a) really need to be in a group b) need a good tank in that group. __________________ Lockey Level 42 Ranger Resident Of Runnyeye(UK-Preferred)

10-10-2005, 09:46 PM	#6
Saihung23 Loremaster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Delaware:Home of...Home of...we got stuff! Posts: 1,527	Kazdun wrote:Right now my ranger is 15. I have a 17 brawler as well, and well, the brawler completely destroys the predator in dps. I can safely say he does at least double, if not triple the damage. And tanks 100x better. Now i know im not the ranger yet, but thats what ill plan to do. But its kind of depressing to be this weak this early. Im just curious when i start to get the huge damage boost. I hear that rangers/assassins are the top dps class for melee. So when will i pass up the damage my brawler does? Neither one of the char.'s you are playing right now are the same as they will be in say 5-10 levels. Once you achieve your subclass that is when you will start fighting like that class. As of right now on Faydark Server I rank in the top 400 in melee damage and I am level 41. All things considered I look at that as a big accomplishment for my level. Ranger DPS is much better than a tanks DPS. __________________

10-10-2005, 09:50 PM	#7
Korb General Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 161	I hit the top 1k on my server at 27. So, I'm pretty happy. Message Edited by Korben on 10-10-2005 01:51 PM

10-09-2005, 09:41 AM	#1
Kazdun Loremaster Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 18	Right now my ranger is 15. I have a 17 brawler as well, and well, the brawler completely destroys the predator in dps. I can safely say he does at least double, if not triple the damage. And tanks 100x better. Now i know im not the ranger yet, but thats what ill plan to do. But its kind of depressing to be this weak this early. Im just curious when i start to get the huge damage boost. I hear that rangers/assassins are the top dps class for melee. So when will i pass up the damage my brawler does?

10-09-2005, 10:23 AM	#2
King Leor Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 267	When a ranger is higher level you will begin to dominate pretty mush cany class in damage. I remeber being around level 30 in runny eye and the guardian tanking for us is doing the same damage as myself. But the later levels you will see a huge improvement. I myself am a levle 60 ranger and I have several procs on me at all time with CA's that do huge dmg. To start off we have procs on us at all time. Our best passive proc is archers frenzy which has a 30% chance to do 500 dmg, than my poison is a 25% chance to do 472 dmg (with poison debuff on mobs it can do over 500 dmg) than there are procs from weapons, roughly 300 dmg gleaming strike proc, prismatic proc dmg or imbued weapon do a few hundred than I also have my shield which procs good dmg and decreases mobs STR by 35. So your looking at 5 different procs there on any given hit. (and with archery these proc very often more so than meleeing the mob). So when using a spell like triple fire each arrow will hit for say 200, 400 than 600 dmg. than with procs going off with each arrow than one shot alone on average does over 3k dmg easy. We than have stealthy fire which is about 2k dmg, than dire blade which is almost 2k dmg, snipers shot is 6k dmg but 15 min timer. Culling the weak which is 1400 dmg roughly, than other bow attacks that will do anywhere from 300-800 dmg. so take all these add procs to each one and auto attack archery inbetween and your looking at HUGE dmg. we also get a great spell at lvl 55 which allows us to shoot an arrow every 1.5 seconds that will do about 600 dmg and procs a hell of alot. so on average with this spell you can easily do 1000 dmg every second for 30 seconds. than recast again 30 seconds later once you have used up all your CA's again. So in the end ranger DPS is one of the very best in game and you can definately look forward to some improvments. Not to mention soloing ^^^ mobs is pretty easy once you have all your spells. Hope this isn't to confusing for you. just took the #'s from what I remeber in game as im not logged in atm. And hopefully it helps. :0) Leoric Level 60 ranger

10-09-2005, 07:14 PM	#3
Morgonn Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 152	At 18 to 20 you will start getting the CA's that are the bread and butter of rangers. I strongly suggest upgrading those as possible (they are worth it!). You will notice a steady dps increase from 20 on and at 35 my ranger does seriously impressive amounts of damage, both with a bow and with hand weapons. As for tanking, rangers don't do that well and mine still doesn't...but thats no big deal considering the fact that most mobs are dead or near dead by the time they get to him :smileyvery-happy: Just hang in and keep working on him if that's the class you enjoy. It gets lots better.