Name of mystic bloodline spell

FelixDomesticus · 06-11-2005, 02:52 PM

What was the name of mystic spell that you supposedly get from bloodline areas after completing enough quest? Also can you just buy app4/adept3 from someone and scribe it BEFORE you complete those quests?

Silda · 06-11-2005, 06:18 PM

It's called Umbral Trap - I believe mine is currently an Apprentice 4 version and it decreases the mobs DPS by 8 pct (or so it says). I saw an Adept3 on a vendor which I Believe decreased the DPS by 11pct. I think Ive used it once and then put it away because of the exceedingly long recast.

FelixDomesticus · 06-11-2005, 10:17 PM

Thanks. I found it, but 3 min recast sort of takes fun away. I need to think very carefully which mob is valuable enough to waste my small dps decrease debuff. 8% dps reduction is not even close to level that would justify that recast time.

Banditman · 06-13-2005, 06:27 PM

While I do agree that the recast time is rather excessive, don't write the spell off. It's definitely not very useful in an exp grind situation, and I certainly wouldn't use it as such, with the exception of a named mob. However, in a raid situation, Umbral Trap can be rather useful on particularly strong mobs, especially ones with a nasty AE. Two Mystics can really do a lot with Umbral Trap in raids if they talk.

Domini · 06-13-2005, 07:28 PM

I believe, but I could be wrong, this is essentially an 8% slow which stacks with our 3 other slows. Recast time is a bugger on this one though, I agree.

Lyvid · 06-13-2005, 08:02 PM

Yeah it should stack, since it's not exactly a slow, but a dps-decreaser. I don't know whether this means they're hitting slower or just not doing as much damage on their hits though...

I've got it at adept 3, 11% reduction.

Banditman · 06-13-2005, 08:11 PM

It is not a Slow. It simply a flat reduction in the amount of incoming damage. This is very useful in a situation involving an AE. It's not an encounter changing ability by any means, but in some circumstances every little bit helps.

Merrygr · 06-13-2005, 09:42 PM

Banditman wrote:
It is not a Slow. It simply a flat reduction in the amount of incoming damage. This is very useful in a situation involving an AE.

It's not an encounter changing ability by any means, but in some circumstances every little bit helps.

Are you saying it just cuts 8% of any incoming damage from the mob? I just made the assumption that it was melee only (in essence a slow), but if what you say is right it does have its place against some mobs.

Banditman · 06-13-2005, 10:56 PM

I have not parsed it, but I "assumed" that 8 percent reduction in DPS would be an 8 percent reduction in DPS, with DPS not being limited to any type of damage, but to the overall output of the mob. I suppose I could parse it to be sure.

Merrygr · 06-15-2005, 10:45 AM

Banditman wrote:
I have not parsed it, but I "assumed" that 8 percent reduction in DPS would be an 8 percent reduction in DPS, with DPS not being limited to any type of damage, but to the overall output of the mob.

I suppose I could parse it to be sure.

Well, I agree about the logic of that. I just plain made the assumption that it would only apply to melee DPS and not Spells/CA. Then again, I'm a "the glass is half empty" kind of person.

06-11-2005, 02:52 PM	#1
FelixDomesticus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 289	What was the name of mystic spell that you supposedly get from bloodline areas after completing enough quest? Also can you just buy app4/adept3 from someone and scribe it BEFORE you complete those quests? __________________ =========================================== If your parents did not have a child, it is unlikely that you will have one either

06-11-2005, 10:17 PM	#3
FelixDomesticus Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 289	Thanks. I found it, but 3 min recast sort of takes fun away. I need to think very carefully which mob is valuable enough to waste my small dps decrease debuff. 8% dps reduction is not even close to level that would justify that recast time. __________________ =========================================== If your parents did not have a child, it is unlikely that you will have one either

06-13-2005, 06:27 PM	#4
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	While I do agree that the recast time is rather excessive, don't write the spell off. It's definitely not very useful in an exp grind situation, and I certainly wouldn't use it as such, with the exception of a named mob. However, in a raid situation, Umbral Trap can be rather useful on particularly strong mobs, especially ones with a nasty AE. Two Mystics can really do a lot with Umbral Trap in raids if they talk. __________________

06-13-2005, 08:02 PM	#6
Lyvid Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Norway Posts: 10	Yeah it should stack, since it's not exactly a slow, but a dps-decreaser. I don't know whether this means they're hitting slower or just not doing as much damage on their hits though... I've got it at adept 3, 11% reduction. __________________ ---------------------------------------------------- -Gwahlur Galaar- Prophecy I recieved this information from an aaaaaaaaalien

06-13-2005, 08:11 PM	#7
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	It is not a Slow. It simply a flat reduction in the amount of incoming damage. This is very useful in a situation involving an AE. It's not an encounter changing ability by any means, but in some circumstances every little bit helps. __________________

06-11-2005, 06:18 PM	#2
Silda General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 81	It's called Umbral Trap - I believe mine is currently an Apprentice 4 version and it decreases the mobs DPS by 8 pct (or so it says). I saw an Adept3 on a vendor which I Believe decreased the DPS by 11pct. I think Ive used it once and then put it away because of the exceedingly long recast.

06-13-2005, 07:28 PM	#5
Domini Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 17	I believe, but I could be wrong, this is essentially an 8% slow which stacks with our 3 other slows. Recast time is a bugger on this one though, I agree.

06-13-2005, 09:42 PM	#8
Merrygr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 132	Banditman wrote: It is not a Slow. It simply a flat reduction in the amount of incoming damage. This is very useful in a situation involving an AE. It's not an encounter changing ability by any means, but in some circumstances every little bit helps. Are you saying it just cuts 8% of any incoming damage from the mob? I just made the assumption that it was melee only (in essence a slow), but if what you say is right it does have its place against some mobs.

06-13-2005, 10:56 PM	#9
Banditman Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,459	I have not parsed it, but I "assumed" that 8 percent reduction in DPS would be an 8 percent reduction in DPS, with DPS not being limited to any type of damage, but to the overall output of the mob. I suppose I could parse it to be sure. __________________

06-15-2005, 10:45 AM	#10
Merrygr General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 132	Banditman wrote: I have not parsed it, but I "assumed" that 8 percent reduction in DPS would be an 8 percent reduction in DPS, with DPS not being limited to any type of damage, but to the overall output of the mob. I suppose I could parse it to be sure. Well, I agree about the logic of that. I just plain made the assumption that it would only apply to melee DPS and not Spells/CA. Then again, I'm a "the glass is half empty" kind of person.