lvl 40 training

K'aldar · 07-13-2005, 11:48 AM

exactly as the title says, can anyone list what the lvl 40 training choices are? please and thanks. SMILEY

Blitzrain · 07-13-2005, 04:53 PM

Taneranthalis' Shuddering Ground - An advanced form of Tremor. As a bonus to Tremor it reduces your opponent’s movement speed.
Bleemb's Draining Blast - An advanced form of Frozen by Time. As a bonus to Frozen by Time it depletes power for the duration of the stun.
Menai's Lasting Essence - An advanced form of Sliver of Essence. As a bonus to Sliver of Essence it summons an item with three charges and may be used more frequently.
Adlam's Frost Shards - An advanced form of Roaring Flames. As a bonus to Roaring Flames it deals cold damage instead of heat damage.

Entire spell list (inc training spells) here ... http://eq2.eqsummoners.com/viewtopic.php?t=192

K'aldar · 07-13-2005, 11:40 PM

ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly?

sonicshadow · 07-13-2005, 11:56 PM

I think quake overwrites it. (a lvl 40 spell) I'd go with the Roaring Flames upgrade.

Blitzrain · 07-14-2005, 12:14 AM

sonicshadow wrote:
I think quake overwrites it. (a lvl 40 spell) I'd go with the Roaring Flames upgrade.

Actually, I was told Quake does stack with it (hearsay, never tried it myself). I would still take Frost Shards. The AE spells have too slow of cast timers to really stack them effectively on anything other than raid mobs. Quake/Shuddering is better than Quake/Seism, but no way you are gonna be able to do Quake/Shuddering/Seism without delaying the rest of your casting lineup. Frost Shards is very handy at 50, since there are more than a few raid mobs that are fire immune.

Bad · 07-14-2005, 01:21 AM

K'aldar wrote:
ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly?

I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually).

One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees.

K'aldar · 07-14-2005, 03:00 AM

ah ok I'll have to think about it some more.. still have a few days before I pick it anyway.. thanks all for the quick responses.

Blitzrain · 07-14-2005, 03:38 AM

Badge wrote:

K'aldar wrote:
ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly?

I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually).

One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees.

If that's true I take back my statement. That is pretty darn cool (both the cast time and casting on the run). At 50, I will probably still keep Frost Shards, simply because I really need it on raids....but if I was at 40 I'd really have to think about it.

StaticLex · 07-14-2005, 02:30 PM

I picked the Shuddering Ground at first, it was a really nice spell. When I did a /respec I picked the 3 charge shard of essence. It is also a really nice spell. I would recommend the 3 charge essence, especially if you do some raiding here and there.

YanariiFV · 07-14-2005, 03:19 PM

Badge wrote:

K'aldar wrote:
ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly?

I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually).

One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees.

I picked Thanarantali's Shuddering Ground as well but when I did it was bugged to hell and, personally, it feels like it still is.

Until recently, the snare-part of the spell didn't work. The recast time on the TSG is 15 seconds and greys out Quake/Tremor while Quake/Tremor that share a timer only take 4 seconds to be recastable. And as it is supposed to be a replacement spell, it's kinda odd that it's a shorter-cast, non-interruptable type as well as gets greyed out. I have /bug'd this spell since months, it's been in the Conjuror issues list since those months as well.

So yeah, you can stack TSG and Quake or Tremor and even Seism, they will all tick their damage, just make sure you cast Quake before you cast TSG or you'll have to wait 15 seconds as opposed to 4.

07-13-2005, 11:48 AM	#1
K'aldar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 378	exactly as the title says, can anyone list what the lvl 40 training choices are? please and thanks. __________________

07-13-2005, 04:53 PM	#2
Blitzrain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 269	Taneranthalis' Shuddering Ground - An advanced form of Tremor. As a bonus to Tremor it reduces your opponent’s movement speed. Bleemb's Draining Blast - An advanced form of Frozen by Time. As a bonus to Frozen by Time it depletes power for the duration of the stun. Menai's Lasting Essence - An advanced form of Sliver of Essence. As a bonus to Sliver of Essence it summons an item with three charges and may be used more frequently. Adlam's Frost Shards - An advanced form of Roaring Flames. As a bonus to Roaring Flames it deals cold damage instead of heat damage. Entire spell list (inc training spells) here ... http://eq2.eqsummoners.com/viewtopic.php?t=192

07-13-2005, 11:40 PM	#3
K'aldar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 378	ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly? __________________

07-13-2005, 11:56 PM	#4
sonicshadow Loremaster Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 71	I think quake overwrites it. (a lvl 40 spell) I'd go with the Roaring Flames upgrade. __________________ These expansion/adventure pack ideas are neat. Some are really awesome ideas! But remember that SOE probably won't even look at your post for this idea. So don't get your hopes up that your idea will be made into the game. 'Cuz it wont!

07-14-2005, 12:14 AM	#5
Blitzrain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 269	sonicshadow wrote: I think quake overwrites it. (a lvl 40 spell) I'd go with the Roaring Flames upgrade. Actually, I was told Quake does stack with it (hearsay, never tried it myself). I would still take Frost Shards. The AE spells have too slow of cast timers to really stack them effectively on anything other than raid mobs. Quake/Shuddering is better than Quake/Seism, but no way you are gonna be able to do Quake/Shuddering/Seism without delaying the rest of your casting lineup. Frost Shards is very handy at 50, since there are more than a few raid mobs that are fire immune.

07-14-2005, 01:21 AM	#6
Bad General Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	K'aldar wrote: ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly? I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually). One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees.

07-14-2005, 03:00 AM	#7
K'aldar Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 378	ah ok I'll have to think about it some more.. still have a few days before I pick it anyway.. thanks all for the quick responses. __________________

07-14-2005, 03:38 AM	#8
Blitzrain Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 269	Badge wrote: K'aldar wrote: ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly? I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually). One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees. If that's true I take back my statement. That is pretty darn cool (both the cast time and casting on the run). At 50, I will probably still keep Frost Shards, simply because I really need it on raids....but if I was at 40 I'd really have to think about it.

07-14-2005, 02:30 PM	#9
StaticLex Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,230	I picked the Shuddering Ground at first, it was a really nice spell. When I did a /respec I picked the 3 charge shard of essence. It is also a really nice spell. I would recommend the 3 charge essence, especially if you do some raiding here and there. __________________ When you've played this game for ten years and gone to bat seven-thousand times and gotten two-thousand hits do you know what that really means? It means you've gone zero for five-thousand. --- Reggie Jackson

07-14-2005, 03:19 PM	#10
YanariiFV Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 90	Badge wrote: K'aldar wrote: ah cool.. i'm thinking about picking the tremor upgrade atm, is it useful or does it get replaced fairly quickly? I picked it and am extremely happy with my choice. It has a 2 second cast time (rather than 4 for tremor and quake) and can be cast on the run. It also stacks with quake (although I wouldn't be surprised if that was changed eventually). One other thing to keep in mind is that because it is ae and can be cast on the run, the tremor upgrade is especially useful for kiting. Although kiting isn't effective against casters anymore, it's still quite useful against melees. I picked Thanarantali's Shuddering Ground as well but when I did it was bugged to hell and, personally, it feels like it still is. Until recently, the snare-part of the spell didn't work. The recast time on the TSG is 15 seconds and greys out Quake/Tremor while Quake/Tremor that share a timer only take 4 seconds to be recastable. And as it is supposed to be a replacement spell, it's kinda odd that it's a shorter-cast, non-interruptable type as well as gets greyed out. I have /bug'd this spell since months, it's been in the Conjuror issues list since those months as well. So yeah, you can stack TSG and Quake or Tremor and even Seism, they will all tick their damage, just make sure you cast Quake before you cast TSG or you'll have to wait 15 seconds as opposed to 4. __________________ Yaniro Petwrangler - Conjur(o/e)r - Antonia Bayle