Wow.. you guys are working hard at making items for Station Marketplace...

Kithica · 08-12-2010, 09:38 AM

I wish my subscrition fee would go towards adding stuff like I see in the Marketplace to the regular game.

Everything in there looks better than anything you can quest for, loot or make. It sure would be nice for carpenters if they could make some of that Station cash furnature. I bet the tailors and armorsmiths would love to be able to make those appearance items.

I'm just sayin...

Barx · 08-12-2010, 09:43 AM

The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.

Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear.

Kithica · 08-12-2010, 09:46 AM

I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services)

Sordes · 08-12-2010, 09:48 AM

Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote:

I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services)

QFT

Lemilla · 08-12-2010, 10:04 AM

The idea of adding things to the marketplace which is funded only by people spending money on that same marketplace is good. Part of the income going to other in-game things is good too.

What may be a good option, is to add those marketplace items into the game half a year later or so with different ways to get them. Perhaps with the textures in a different color.

People still have the incentive to buy it in the marketplace (to get it a lot sooner), while anyone can eventually get it.

Lathain_Sarathai · 08-12-2010, 10:04 AM

We all have probleme with ingame item who are not coming from the game SMILEY

next step is selling mystical gear, full AA 90 char and last step will be selling gm items... only soe can decide what they want, we have to accept... Or not.

Dont buy marketplace stuff or you encourrage them to do this way. (anyway it's too late when i see all marketplace mount arround me)

Where is the game ? the earn it... you worked for have it ... the achievement of buying stuff :p the game SMILEY

Bilil · 08-12-2010, 11:12 AM

Now, I'm not much for the huge prices, but I have to say there's plenty of things I've worked for in the game that aren't in the marketplace, even though I've bought a set of appearance items or two. It's not like you can't do both.

Wigg · 08-12-2010, 11:49 AM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear.

The same incentive people used to have to buy their myth instead of doing it. The same one that makes people go to websites and buy 100p instead of earning it, and the same one that makes people buy those items in the first place. It's conveniently easy to get.

One good thing I could see is if they added something like a new furniture set, but on the station market place there was only a recipe. And in order to make the recipe you had to use rares/ ect. That way both sides win a bit.

kcirrot · 08-12-2010, 11:55 AM

Wigg@Butcherblock wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear.
The same incentive people used to have to buy their myth instead of doing it. The same one that makes people go to websites and buy 100p instead of earning it, and the same one that makes people buy those items in the first place. It's conveniently easy to get.
One good thing I could see is if they added something like a new furniture set, but on the station market place there was only a recipe. And in order to make the recipe you had to use rares/ ect. That way both sides win a bit.

Sell a man a fish and he'll eat for one day, then be back to buy your fish tomorrow;

Teach a man to fish and he'll undercut your market and put you out of business!

Kosh · 08-12-2010, 12:22 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.

I see alot of posters saying this.

Is it true, though?

Kithica · 08-12-2010, 12:28 PM

Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff".

Barx · 08-12-2010, 12:32 PM

Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote:

Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff".

Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ).

Kosh@Blackburrow wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.
I see alot of posters saying this.
Is it true, though?

It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search).

Valdaglerion · 08-12-2010, 12:32 PM

Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote:

I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services)

This is precisely what I have been saying as well. I have no problem with items having multiple paths but exclusionary paths leave a bad taste in players mouths that pay to play the game.

When LON packs were a random drop on loot tables at least they were stomached. Now you get 5 free packs a month marked no-trade and nothing in them will be tradeable either, whats the use of that?

There are people who have time and people who have money. If you have money, buy the items, if you have time you should have the opportunity to earn them. My opinion anyway.

Barx · 08-12-2010, 12:50 PM

Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:

There are people who have time and people who have money. If you have money, buy the items, if you have time you should have the opportunity to earn them. My opinion anyway.

That's partly the philosophy behind the EQ2X server(s), which is why so many of the things you can buy there are also available in-game.

Malacha · 08-13-2010, 12:09 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Kosh@Blackburrow wrote:
Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.
I see alot of posters saying this.
Is it true, though?
It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search).

When SC was first starting out, it was said that SC funds SC production, and no EQ2 devs are wasting their time making SC items/art. This was later changed to say that EQ2 devs do in fact make SC art/items, but SC funds "other things" besides just SC. IMO, the "other things" it funds are hairbrained ideas like EQ2x.

Xill · 08-13-2010, 12:22 PM

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:

Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff".
Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ).
Kosh@Blackburrow wrote:
Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.
I see alot of posters saying this.
Is it true, though?
It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search).

Right becuase they didnt use our sub money to fund dev time to make EQ2X so they could bring in a whole new revenue stream that doesnt include anyone from live that doesnt want RMT. Oh wait... they did. And they are. And they will continue to do it.

And the money that comes in from SC... is going to go right back into SC, or into SoE's other games to keep them afloat. Look at the latest GU... or the next expac... /sigh

Avirodar · 08-14-2010, 11:49 AM

Xill wrote:

Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff".
Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ).
Kosh@Blackburrow wrote:
Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote:
The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription.
I see alot of posters saying this.
Is it true, though?
It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search).
Right becuase they didnt use our sub money to fund dev time to make EQ2X so they could bring in a whole new revenue stream that doesnt include anyone from live that doesnt want RMT. Oh wait... they did. And they are. And they will continue to do it.
And the money that comes in from SC... is going to go right back into SC, or into SoE's other games to keep them afloat. Look at the latest GU... or the next expac... /sigh

I can not wait for the next GU. It is going to be one of the best GU's ever, because we will be given an awesome marketplace button tacked on to a WoW-ripoff UI. Absolutely smoking hot prospect, bound to bring countless people back into the game.With the sheer amount of effort invested into putting the marketplace button in as a UI feature, it is only fair we expect nothing but minor and meaningless fluff to be a part of the GU.Exciting times.

08-12-2010, 09:48 AM	#4
Sordes Loremaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 16	Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote: I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services) QFT

08-12-2010, 10:04 AM	#6
Lathain_Sarathai Loremaster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 436	We all have probleme with ingame item who are not coming from the game next step is selling mystical gear, full AA 90 char and last step will be selling gm items... only soe can decide what they want, we have to accept... Or not. Dont buy marketplace stuff or you encourrage them to do this way. (anyway it's too late when i see all marketplace mount arround me) Where is the game ? the earn it... you worked for have it ... the achievement of buying stuff :p the game

08-12-2010, 11:49 AM	#8
Wigg Server: Butcherblock Guild: The Chosen Rank: Gladiator Loremaster Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 463	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear. The same incentive people used to have to buy their myth instead of doing it. The same one that makes people go to websites and buy 100p instead of earning it, and the same one that makes people buy those items in the first place. It's conveniently easy to get. One good thing I could see is if they added something like a new furniture set, but on the station market place there was only a recipe. And in order to make the recipe you had to use rares/ ect. That way both sides win a bit.

08-12-2010, 11:55 AM	#9
kcirrot Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 898	Wigg@Butcherblock wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear. The same incentive people used to have to buy their myth instead of doing it. The same one that makes people go to websites and buy 100p instead of earning it, and the same one that makes people buy those items in the first place. It's conveniently easy to get. One good thing I could see is if they added something like a new furniture set, but on the station market place there was only a recipe. And in order to make the recipe you had to use rares/ ect. That way both sides win a bit. Sell a man a fish and he'll eat for one day, then be back to buy your fish tomorrow; Teach a man to fish and he'll undercut your market and put you out of business!

08-12-2010, 12:22 PM	#10
Kosh Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 66	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. I see alot of posters saying this. Is it true, though?

08-12-2010, 09:38 AM	#1
Kithica Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Rangers of Kithicor Rank: First Ranger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	I wish my subscrition fee would go towards adding stuff like I see in the Marketplace to the regular game. Everything in there looks better than anything you can quest for, loot or make. It sure would be nice for carpenters if they could make some of that Station cash furnature. I bet the tailors and armorsmiths would love to be able to make those appearance items. I'm just sayin...

08-12-2010, 09:43 AM	#2
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. Now I'd love to be able to make some furniture that has the same model as the SC stuff (just with a different texture), but then what would be the incentive for people to buy the SC-stuff? It has to be exclusive to there or they don't see it as a money maker. There's lots of cool looking house items carpenters make, so I don't complain anymore about not being able to make the SC appearance. Tailors and weaponsmiths could use a few new appearance recipes, but even they have some regular recipes that look decent that people wear.

08-12-2010, 09:46 AM	#3
Kithica Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Rangers of Kithicor Rank: First Ranger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services)

08-12-2010, 10:04 AM	#5
Lemilla Server: Permafrost Guild: Issari Laoris Rank: Cute 'n Blue Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 323	The idea of adding things to the marketplace which is funded only by people spending money on that same marketplace is good. Part of the income going to other in-game things is good too. What may be a good option, is to add those marketplace items into the game half a year later or so with different ways to get them. Perhaps with the textures in a different color. People still have the incentive to buy it in the marketplace (to get it a lot sooner), while anyone can eventually get it.

08-12-2010, 11:12 AM	#7
Bilil Server: Antonia Bayle General Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17	Now, I'm not much for the huge prices, but I have to say there's plenty of things I've worked for in the game that aren't in the marketplace, even though I've bought a set of appearance items or two. It's not like you can't do both.

08-12-2010, 12:28 PM	#11
Kithica Server: Lucan DLere Guild: Rangers of Kithicor Rank: First Ranger Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 234	Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff".

08-12-2010, 12:32 PM	#12
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote: Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff". Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ). Kosh@Blackburrow wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. I see alot of posters saying this. Is it true, though? It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search).

08-12-2010, 12:32 PM	#13
Valdaglerion Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,870	Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote: I have a problem with an item in the game that is only available to station market place users. Everything in the station marketplace should be avaialable in game (except the potions and services) This is precisely what I have been saying as well. I have no problem with items having multiple paths but exclusionary paths leave a bad taste in players mouths that pay to play the game. When LON packs were a random drop on loot tables at least they were stomached. Now you get 5 free packs a month marked no-trade and nothing in them will be tradeable either, whats the use of that? There are people who have time and people who have money. If you have money, buy the items, if you have time you should have the opportunity to earn them. My opinion anyway.

08-12-2010, 12:50 PM	#14
Barx Server: Antonia Bayle Guild: Mayhem Rank: Officers Loremaster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Manors of Mithaniel, New Halas Posts: 3,480	Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote: There are people who have time and people who have money. If you have money, buy the items, if you have time you should have the opportunity to earn them. My opinion anyway. That's partly the philosophy behind the EQ2X server(s), which is why so many of the things you can buy there are also available in-game.

08-13-2010, 12:09 PM	#15
Malacha General Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 887	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Kosh@Blackburrow wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. I see alot of posters saying this. Is it true, though? It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search). When SC was first starting out, it was said that SC funds SC production, and no EQ2 devs are wasting their time making SC items/art. This was later changed to say that EQ2 devs do in fact make SC art/items, but SC funds "other things" besides just SC. IMO, the "other things" it funds are hairbrained ideas like EQ2x. __________________ Maewyn \| Maelya \| Alania \| ~~Maehymn~~ \| ~~Maelani~~ (Account Canceled)

08-13-2010, 12:22 PM	#16
Xill Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 318	Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote: Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff". Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ). Kosh@Blackburrow wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. I see alot of posters saying this. Is it true, though? It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search). Right becuase they didnt use our sub money to fund dev time to make EQ2X so they could bring in a whole new revenue stream that doesnt include anyone from live that doesnt want RMT. Oh wait... they did. And they are. And they will continue to do it. And the money that comes in from SC... is going to go right back into SC, or into SoE's other games to keep them afloat. Look at the latest GU... or the next expac... /sigh

08-14-2010, 11:49 AM	#17
Avirodar Server: Oasis Guild: Tyranny Rank: Champion Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,035	Xill wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: Kithica@Lucan DLere wrote: Wouldn't it be nice to see these new items, furnature and appearance gear for sale on some faction merchant instead? It would make me feel like I'm getting my money's worth each month if instead of "you gotta pay for more station cash if you want this neat stuff" I got, "you need to work on soandso faction or do suchandsuch quests to get this neat new stuff". Sure it would be nice; in fact we do get new items on merchants all the time. But everything on the marketplace is not going to get made into something you can quest or buy from a vendor for plat. It makes them extra money and pays for the guy that makes the stuff (and Smed's kids college fund ). Kosh@Blackburrow wrote: Barx@Antonia Bayle wrote: The guy that makes the SC furniture gets paid because people buy the SC furniture. He spends some of his time making non-SC items as well (mainly live event items I believe). In the end, because people are buying the SC furniture we end up with a bit more non-SC stuff as well. Thus in a way people buying the SC-stuff are subsidizing some of the stuff that gets added into the subscription. I see alot of posters saying this. Is it true, though? It's been said by some trustworthy developers a few times. I believe Domino said it on the forums before, although I'd have to try and find it (which is painful using their buggy forum search). Right becuase they didnt use our sub money to fund dev time to make EQ2X so they could bring in a whole new revenue stream that doesnt include anyone from live that doesnt want RMT. Oh wait... they did. And they are. And they will continue to do it. And the money that comes in from SC... is going to go right back into SC, or into SoE's other games to keep them afloat. Look at the latest GU... or the next expac... /sigh I can not wait for the next GU. It is going to be one of the best GU's ever, because we will be given an awesome marketplace button tacked on to a WoW-ripoff UI. Absolutely smoking hot prospect, bound to bring countless people back into the game.With the sheer amount of effort invested into putting the marketplace button in as a UI feature, it is only fair we expect nothing but minor and meaningless fluff to be a part of the GU.Exciting times. __________________ Templar of Oasis