Dont take it personally Noah, The reason I think some people are going to be upset about this is because as usual changes at this fundamental level hit the guilds/players who havent "made it" yet hardest. I know for one that waay back when these changes were first talked about I made a push for 50 while it was still relatively easy. Im sure people can understand why changes need to be made, I for one am sick to death of having to stack 4 buffs on a 1 minute recast. Its just things will look a little grim (I for one know I am worried) until the whole picture is visible with complete skill/spell revamps for all and combat changes. I guess guardians want to know that they will still be at the forefront of tanking as that is where we chose to specialise, instead of picking any of the utility or added dps/ whatever that other classes chose. Farhane.