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Antryg Mistrose wrote:

Pheep@Unrest wrote:

I wasn't the tank, but the healer, in the group I was in.

My only problem with the playtest in general was how many raid geared, myth'd and fabled folks I saw in the gathering spot.  I saw so many full VP sets and myths...Aeralik himself was in the Warlock fabled suit with the Warlock myth, legendary and fabled jewelry.  He also was pulling in high end folks, those mastered out and with high end gear.

I just have to wonder just how balanced of a testing is all this?  Espcially since Aeralik wanted us to go thru "easy TSO instances".

The above folks testing out easy instances is like testing performance on a high end racing car and then using that data to evaluate the performance of an economy car.

The average L80 isn't going to be in raid gear.  Maybe a few masters, a fabled piece here and there, but they'll be in legendary from RoK and whatever they get in TSO.

I dunno...it just seems like the testing will give results not indicative of the general player populace.  I find it hard to believe that raid geared toons are the majority.  Testing really shouldn't be based on them, no offense meant.

Of course, there's always the devil's advocate view: working with what you have...as in most who copied over are raid geared and mastered.

I dunno...but I just had to say something, not really meaning to argue...just had concerns and not sure where to put them.

And before I head off...Kiljoi, Ardor, Carainy, Dread, Sharp, Odonox (sp? and they left in the middle of testing)...it was fun, really.  And Dread, don't forget to keep your evac away from your fighting hotbars!

Its easier to pull aggro when the whole group is well geared, as there is a lot more stuff currently out that boosts dps than boosts tank threat.

The difference in taunt abilities between a fully mastered raid tank and and adept3ed legendary fighter, isn't actually that huge either, so my opinion is that lesser geared groups should find it easier (except for the fights being longer).  Of course I haven't actually got a group on test as a tank to test this theory.

I have to agree with you there. A tank can hold aggro about as well with these changes if they are legendary geared or fully fabled. The question that needs answered is if they can hold it against someone doing 2k dps and someone doing 9k dps.

Having a high DPS class to work with who is all geared out makes the testing meaningful becaue if you balance from the top down its easier on the lesser geared people.

Its when balance comes from the bottom up that you end up with the situations everyone here talks about...IE the raid people get special treatment, or the raid people are so uber they have to nerf the whole class to bring them back in line etc etc etc.

If I know a tank can hold aggro against a mythical welding warlock.....I know 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt they can hold aggro off a legendary geared one.