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Unread 11-25-2008, 04:46 PM   #15
Gisallo
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Arinwulf wrote:

You have no clue what you are talking about.  Berserkers were about damage first, tanking second.  The guardian class is about tanking first.  Do you have a fluid blockage to the brain?  What's so hard to understand about this?  THERE IS NO POINT TO HAVING THE BERSERKER CLASS ANYMORE.  SOE wants us all to be guardians.

This illustrates what I saw coming.  There were plenty of zerkers that were 100% wearing chain and leather dps gear, standing in a group as melee dps, not even considering tanking.  I saw A LOT of people complaining about the loss of DA as being class breaking and realized ..."ooops they don't see themselves as a tank they see themselves as melee dps".  In the beginning the class was the exact opposite of what you want it to be.  They were a tank first who dpsed more because of less survivability and so could be melee dps if absolutely necessary.

Well let me break things down.  Berserkers have been and always have been tanks first end of freakin story.  Zerks did a little more damage than Guards and guards were a little more durable that was the trade off.  The damage was not there to say "you are not a tank", but rather to try and say "they are tougher but you help bring the mob down faster so its a wash."  That fine a balance though can't survive years of expansions, updates and uneven class developement.  The reason many zerkers ended up filling melee dps roles and not MT or OT roles is because the class was eventually broken in comparison to Guards and Pallys thanks to Amends.  Now the rest you may find irrelevant because for some reason you seem to think a Zerker was never meant to tank.  They were they just had a hard time.  I am sorry that you may have come to the class when the easiest way to go was to roll him as melee dps, but the rest of us want to tank again and now that we can we are happy again.

Even with that in mind here we go for damage.  In the Cruicible I was 3rd on the parse (behind a Ranger and a Warlock) and I was in freakin' defensive stance for 2/3rds of it, in Befallen 2nd (behind a Swashbuckler).  That seems to be pretty fair seeing as how I am a fighter class.  I wasn't even running ACT for that, just spamming.

In this expansion we are rocking because we do way more AOE damage than Guards and with the changes to our aggro tools we can actually handle single target stuff pretty well too now.  Look at all the Guard and Pally foums.  On both you will see them complaining about many of the changes because Zerkers and SK's can actually tank again and their slots are no longer "protected" simply because they have the right class name. 

Lastly in undercutting your "they want us to be guards" train of thought, what the zerks lost in terms of dps the Guardian lost too, so parity has been maintained in the realm of dps.  As far as I can see all that got goofed with was the stam tree we share.  Since the same dps balance is maintained there we have nopt "become" anything and with the increase in AE encouters we are actually better off parse wise than before.

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